1150hp SVE Yenko uses stock airbox? - Page 3

*Joshinator99* · 08-13-2023, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

I'm sticking with the stock air box on my ZL1. As usual, I'm siding with the GM engineers vs the aftermarket sales people. There's a history of problems with oiled filters, and the stock airbag is also designed to minimize water ingestion.

Yes, those GM engineers really killed it with the A8 shutter situation….only took them 5 years to figure out the fluid….

For a stock car you should stay with the stock equipment. But FYI you aren’t making 1K WHP with the stock paper air filter…and if you do you just left a crap load of power on the table.

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Originally Posted by Z OH 6

LOL, the sky is falling!

JSH · 08-13-2023, 09:36 PM

A regularly rinsed and lightly oiled K&N cone here, but I'm not completely convinced it needs oil.

Camfab · 08-14-2023, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrome383Z

I’m not getting into the air filter argument as I as well am not a fan of oiled filters especially in dusty environments. I worked for a major filtration company for 15 years and I wouldn’t run them (in that use case). For a toy car that will likely die due to performance upgrades then contamination wear I wouldn’t worry about it (unless in a dust bowl).

However oil analysis is a direct result of the oil filter not the air filter. I don’t see the correlation there. These larger particles (silica dust in air) will absolutely be removed by the engine oil filter (~10-25 micron). Keep in mind you can’t see below 40.

Spot on….

GearheadSS · 08-14-2023, 07:57 AM

No oiled filters for me. I've had my share of engineers tell me to avoid them.

That oil doesn't stay on the filter and will get into the MAF and engine. No thanks. The power gain is negligible(if any) compared to the cost and pita of the maintenance anyway.

Z OH 6 · 08-14-2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Camfab

Spot on….

Spot on incorrect.

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS

No oiled filters for me. I've had my share of engineers tell me to avoid them.

That oil doesn't stay on the filter and will get into the MAF and engine. No thanks. The power gain is negligible(if any) compared to the cost and pita of the maintenance anyway.

Always amazed to hear the regurgitated urban legend about these filters. Everything you stated couldn't be further from the truth. Hellcat's come with oiled cotton filters from the FACTORY since 2019, is this because SRT engineers determined Hellcat engines are more durable than GM engines? The question is rhetorical...

https://www.hellcat.org/threads/rede....224329/page-2

GearheadSS · 08-14-2023, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Spot on incorrect.

Always amazed to hear the regurgitated urban legend about these filters. Everything you stated couldn't be further from the truth. Hellcat's come with oiled cotton filters from the FACTORY since 2019, is this because SRT engineers determined Hellcat engines are more durable than GM engines? The question is rhetorical...

https://www.hellcat.org/threads/rede....224329/page-2

Are you an engineer or are you just posting stuff you've read on the internet?

*radz28* · 08-14-2023, 09:43 AM

I wonder how many, of those who have commented, have done ANY testing, like Z' has... At least he's done SOME sort of testing to back-up his assertions.

LT4Greg · 08-14-2023, 10:00 AM

The way I see it is if a person wants to run an aftermarket CAI or the OEM one then that’s their choice!��

Z OH 6 · 08-14-2023, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Are you an engineer or are you just posting stuff you've read on the internet?

Just facts. Do your oil samples and let the facts speak for themselves. My silicon has actually dropped since using a Rotafab oiled filter element vs the dry filter element.

https://www.machinerylubrication.com...con-engine-oil

https://www.blackstone-labs.com/serv...t-explanation/

CalgaryZL1 · 08-14-2023, 02:26 PM

My engine says thank you every time I drive it

dbs1 · 08-15-2023, 12:57 AM

That’s a good looking setup!

Chris357 · 08-15-2023, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryZL1

My engine says thank you every time I drive it

I'm considering that intake. I see you have a catch can, which is one of my questions. Where do you put the PCV fitting that would normally plumb into the intake elbow (assuming you don't want to drill the carbon fiber)?

laynlo15 · 08-15-2023, 08:39 AM

I've been running RotoFab CAIs since 2010 starting with my NA G8GT, then with a Magnuson SC. I've run them on my 2015 SS, 2016 SS NA and SC and once again on my 2022 SC Lt1 Camaro. I've never had any failures or dirt filtrate thru these dry filters. Not sure where all this BS about aftermarket filtering causing engine issues. Maybe if you live on a dirt road and never clean the filter out. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, plenty of bad information out there. Its up to the owner to take care of their vehicle including replacing the stock filter or cleaning the aftermarket filter if that's what you are running. Failures are generally due to the owner not doing proper maintenance.

Z OH 6 · 08-15-2023, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

I've been running RotoFab CAIs since 2010 starting with my NA G8GT, then with a Magnuson SC. I've run them on my 2015 SS, 2016 SS NA and SC and once again on my 2022 SC Lt1 Camaro. I've never had any failures or dirt filtrate thru these dry filters. Not sure where all this BS about aftermarket filtering causing engine issues. Maybe if you live on a dirt road and never clean the filter out. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, plenty of bad information out there. Its up to the owner to take care of their vehicle including replacing the stock filter or cleaning the aftermarket filter if that's what you are running. Failures are generally due to the owner not doing proper maintenance.

Urban legends never die on the internet.

08-13-2023, 09:36 PM	#30
JSH Drives: '20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Mile High Posts: 4,148	A regularly rinsed and lightly oiled K&N cone here, but I'm not completely convinced it needs oil. __________________ 2020 ZL1LE A10. LME LT4 390 short block, CID Heads, Kong E2650, FBO. 15" conversion, Nitto 555Rii or MT ET Street R or Toyo Proxes RR. 100 octane: 1045hp/1055tq. 100 octane + Alky MAF Meth (1) 10+:

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radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,789 View My Garage	I wonder how many, of those who have commented, have done ANY testing, like Z' has... At least he's done SOME sort of testing to back-up his assertions. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-14-2023, 10:00 AM	#36
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,869	The way I see it is if a person wants to run an aftermarket CAI or the OEM one then that’s their choice!�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

08-14-2023, 02:26 PM	#38
CalgaryZL1 Drives: 2020 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Calgary Canada Posts: 1,652	My engine says thank you every time I drive it Attached Images

08-14-2023, 07:57 AM	#32
GearheadSS Drives: 23 LT1/86 IROC-Z Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Greenville, Tx Posts: 5,041 View My Garage	No oiled filters for me. I've had my share of engineers tell me to avoid them. That oil doesn't stay on the filter and will get into the MAF and engine. No thanks. The power gain is negligible(if any) compared to the cost and pita of the maintenance anyway.

08-15-2023, 12:57 AM	#39
dbs1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Lakeside, Az Posts: 504	That’s a good looking setup!

08-15-2023, 08:39 AM	#41
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	I've been running RotoFab CAIs since 2010 starting with my NA G8GT, then with a Magnuson SC. I've run them on my 2015 SS, 2016 SS NA and SC and once again on my 2022 SC Lt1 Camaro. I've never had any failures or dirt filtrate thru these dry filters. Not sure where all this BS about aftermarket filtering causing engine issues. Maybe if you live on a dirt road and never clean the filter out. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, plenty of bad information out there. Its up to the owner to take care of their vehicle including replacing the stock filter or cleaning the aftermarket filter if that's what you are running. Failures are generally due to the owner not doing proper maintenance.

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