[David Gordon]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

My two biggest concern with the C8 from watching the corvette forum the past couple years os the DCT still seems to problematic. I am sure it is not as bad as it seems since they are selling over 30k C8s per year but there does seem to be a lot of complaints. The 2nd issue is the lack of a manual transmission for those that enjoy a more connected driving experience. I drove a C8 Stingray Z51 on track and it handled fantastic but after the honeymoon wears off I think I would find it kind of boring.

Thats what I am afraid of. I still love driving my ZL1. The car I am looking at is non Z-51.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by David Gordon

Thats what I am afraid of. I still love driving my ZL1. The car I am looking at is non Z-51.

I had a ZL1 with the A10, the lack of manual ruined it for me. The car is a beast but lacked engagement for me. I traded it fora CT4V Blackwing with an M6 a few months ago. I find it much more enjoyable to drive as it ticks more boxes for me as an all around sports sedan.

I see the C8 being fun at first until you get used to the quick shifting DCT and quickness down low but the C8 lacks the ZL1 LT4 pull at higher speeds. The C8 is also less raw and visceral if that matters to you, even the dual mode exhaust option is pretty weak in the C8.

The Z06 addresses everything except the manual transmission but at a huge increase in price.

As a fun car, I would rather drive something less expensive with a manual transmission. C7 Corvette, Camaro, Miata, GR86, Supra, Nissan Z, etc.

[ZR1-OK]

Here’s a local 1LT and 2LT yet to arrive at msrp.

https://www.jimnortonchevy.com/Vehic...model=Corvette

That would be much more tolerable (assuming no dealer gouging) added to a ZL1

[David Gordon]

There are lots of deals like that out there, wait till they arrive and they tell you no dice..

[jjgi5150]

Hi all,

I too would love a C8 Z06, but the sad truth is I feel it is severely overpriced. I saw the pricing of all these type vehicles rising and availability diminishing with the pandemic, and now the recession and supply/demand issues. Even with excellent credit the loan costs have also risen.

So for me, barring any major financial changes in the US, I’ll remain very content with my ‘22 ZLE M6. I also believe the low mileage I will have on my ZLE, along with its likely discontinuance, will help keep its value up in the future.

Considering these factors, and the lack of a manual transmission, I don’t see a change in store for me.

JJ

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

For $75k (ish) you could have a 2019 C7 Z06, and they come with a manual as well. C&D tested the auto and did 0-60 in 3.0 sec with their old method, which would be 2.9 sec the way they test today (with 1 ft roll out since 2019ish). And it has the LT4. I'd have a hard time spending $85k+ on a C8 knowing for less $ I could have a low mileage C7 Z06 that is faster, looks better (IMO), more powerful, and higher performing.

[raptor5244]

and then there is news of a power increase coming.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/12...ore-power/amp/

[ZR1-OK]

That was a C8 crash in Dallas better pics here
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/12...orvette-wreck/

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by jjgi5150

Hi all,

I too would love a C8 Z06, but the sad truth is I feel it is severely overpriced. I saw the pricing of all these type vehicles rising and availability diminishing with the pandemic, and now the recession and supply/demand issues. Even with excellent credit the loan costs have also risen.

So for me, barring any major financial changes in the US, I’ll remain very content with my ‘22 ZLE M6. I also believe the low mileage I will have on my ZLE, along with its likely discontinuance, will help keep its value up in the future.

Considering these factors, and the lack of a manual transmission, I don’t see a change in store for me.

JJ

Z06 is Severely overpriced. Are you kidding? Compared to the competition it’s a bargain.

A hand-built high-revving flat-plane crank engine putting out 670 hp isn’t cheap.

Would I like to see the starting price well under $100K? Sure. But in this economy that isn’t happening.

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

My two biggest concern with the C8 from watching the corvette forum the past couple years os the DCT still seems to problematic. I am sure it is not as bad as it seems since they are selling over 30k C8s per year but there does seem to be a lot of complaints. The 2nd issue is the lack of a manual transmission for those that enjoy a more connected driving experience. I drove a C8 Stingray Z51 on track and it handled fantastic but after the honeymoon wears off I think I would find it kind of boring.

If you’re a fan of a transmission with a third pedal, which I am, the DCT in the C8 can be disappointing. On the other hand, if all you drive are automatics, you'll love the DCT. It shifts fast. Is it on the same level as Porsche's PDK. Sorry, not close.

My biggest complaint with the transmission is first and second gears are way too short. GM did this to hit the mark for fuel economy and 0-60 times. I drive my C8 a lot in manual mode. The paddle shifters moving with the steering wheel drive me crazy at times because they'll be in an awkward position to press.

I love the Tremec TR6060 in the ZL1. It's the best manual transmission I've driven.

As far as reliability, there have been what I think is a high number of issues reported on the Corvette Forum. It seems most issues occur during the initial 1000-2000 miles of ownership and are related to clogged selenoids in the transmission from the clutches during break-in. Chevy says the transmission isn't fully broken in until 7500 miles. Chevy offers a complimentary oil change and transmission filter change at 7500 miles or two years which ever comes first.

[jjgi5150]

hawk02,

I agree that in contrast to the vehicles you earmarked, the BASE C8 Z06 would be a reasonable price. But with the limited production and DEALER PRICE GOUGING that is happening, I feel the price is too high.

I shopped around in the areas practical for me to purchase a C8 Z06, and all were either pre-sold to Corvette collectors or severely overpriced by the dealers. One was actually $25k over sticker for a base model.

I agree it’s a nice ride. But it would be better for me if it had a good close ratio manual. But as it is now in today’s economy, it’s more cash than I’m willing to outlay.

JJ

[MakCamaro]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Z06 is Severely overpriced. Are you kidding? Compared to the competition it’s a bargain.

A hand-built high-revving flat-plane crank engine putting out 670 hp isn’t cheap.

Would I like to see the starting price well under $100K? Sure. But in this economy that isn’t happening.

With all due respect, the cars you quoted are all European cars that are by default very expensive. That's why I only buy American cars: the value for money is great. But I agree with you, compared to those very expensive cars the ZO6 is indeed a bargain!

[MPowered]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Z06 is Severely overpriced. Are you kidding? Compared to the competition it’s a bargain.

A hand-built high-revving flat-plane crank engine putting out 670 hp isn’t cheap.

Would I like to see the starting price well under $100K? Sure. But in this economy that isn’t happening.

People were expecting the ZO6 to start at about $90K, then you load it up with options. My configured car with just the competition seats and suede steering wheel is $111K. That's all I'll do because I'm not paying $130K for the ZO7 package. I understand the hand built engine, but GM broke away from what the Corvette ZO6 is about; affordable performance and you can load it up if you want to. The higher than expected price disappointed many. You also can't compare a GM product with the Euros because there's more to a car than pure performance.

[David Gordon]

Every deal I made so far when I got there they raised the price. Not 1 Corvette is selling for MSRP unless I order it. Not even used ones, I spent hours calling every dealership in Texas. They would coax me in only to tell me the manager said no.
Saturday I offered 90k on a Convertable with 500 miles, on it. MSRP was 89k, sounded like we had a deal, they just sent me deal sheet and bam 95k and 64k on my car.