[Theroider]

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM

I don't know, there have been some seriously nasty wrecks posted of sixth gens and the actual body compartment has been amazingly intact.





I could believe it as easily as not believing it. Lot of factors involved, exactly how did they impact. Looks like Camaro shoved partially under on impact and slightly off center vs. dead on straight, etc. Vehicle was moving and it was a free wheeling impact vs. stopped or into a solid object, etc. As I mentioned above there have been some nasty wrecks of 6th gens posted and the body compartment area is intact.


Either way dude was a total idiot.

That’s because of the Alpha platform.


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[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

I was thinking that but didnt want to post it. I do not think this made contact going 157. I think something got his speed going that fast (RTCIC based system) and the news blows it up to make a story. No car is going to survive that at 80 let alone almost double that. Its just going to look like someone stuck an m80 into a beer can at that speed...... both cars.

The only thing I can think of is that the car he hit was going about 70-80. I've been down that stretch of highway frequently, and 70 is the minimum speed that most people travel, which I suspect the Camaro would've seen worse damage if it had hit something stationary at that speed.

I figure at the speeds he was traveling, and some person making a lane change, he didn't have time to react, which is one thing that people going this fast fail to realize. All it takes is someone making a move into your lane. They don't anticipate some crazed lunatic hurling themselves down the highway at such speeds, and you're going too fast to react. But yes, he's going to be paying for this for a long time, which is fine by me.

[L78toLT1]

Originally Posted by Vtor_ZL1

To be 22 w 400+hp car that cost $40K+.. recipe for failure.

Just think how many incidents like this we will see when EVs take over. In a few years, all but the bottom of the barrel, entry level offerings will annihilate a 6th gen Camaro in a straight line while weighing an extra ton or so and not handling any where near as well. I'm not anti-ev, but I do believe incidents such as this will become more common when the family SUV or sedan is capable of knocking down 3 sec or better 0 - 60 times. Lots of more affluent kids will be learning to drive in cars that will run 9 - 10sec in the 1/4 mile.

[Christian1LE]

Originally Posted by L78toLT1

Just think how many incidents like this we will see when EVs take over. In a few years, all but the bottom of the barrel, entry level offerings will annihilate a 6th gen Camaro in a straight line while weighing an extra ton or so and not handling any where near as well. I'm not anti-ev, but I do believe incidents such as this will become more common when the family SUV or sedan is capable of knocking down 3 sec or better 0 - 60 times. Lots of more affluent kids will be learning to drive in cars that will run 9 - 10sec in the 1/4 mile.

Just wait till all EV's are capped at 80MPH and you can't go past that. In all reality I think the computers will keep improving and reduce the amount of accidents people get into. Add that to the fact that insurance companies will monitor your driving more and more in "real time" that it's just going to get safer but much more boring and annoying for everyone. Hopefully we can keep taking our cars to the track to have fun for years to come.

[TXCSSU]

Sometimes it's easy to tell what members on here get their "news" from Qanon.

[laynlo15]

If they tapped into the ECU they'll know exactly how fast he was going and they may have already done that. I'm not sure why some would question the speed if they actually looked at the other Suv. Why question it if the air bag indicator makes it possible to tell the speed at impact. Lets not have sympathy for this kid, but maybe some for the family.

[CamaroDreams76]

Originally Posted by TXCSSU

The only thing I can think of is that the car he hit was going about 70-80. I've been down that stretch of highway frequently, and 70 is the minimum speed that most people travel, which I suspect the Camaro would've seen worse damage if it had hit something stationary at that speed.

I figure at the speeds he was traveling, and some person making a lane change, he didn't have time to react, which is one thing that people going this fast fail to realize. All it takes is someone making a move into your lane. They don't anticipate some crazed lunatic hurling themselves down the highway at such speeds, and you're going too fast to react. But yes, he's going to be paying for this for a long time, which is fine by me.

after watching the below and watching the article, its a possibility that it was hit at 157.

Heres some food for debate, IIHS crash test @ 40mph

[TXCSSU]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

after watching the below and watching the article, its a possibility that it was hit at 157.

Heres some food for debate, IIHS crash test @ 40mph

A lot of people (myself included) complain about how cars aren't built the way they used to be. My father had a 67 Cadillac that literally made it unscathed against a hail storm that generated softball sized hail. Those hail stones ripped through the rest of our cars and made them look like very fat woman thighs. Of course, today's cars are made the way they're made for "safety standards". I mean I'm sure the auto industry likes that they're not having to invest in so much steel, but the crumple zones are actually created to absorb a lot of the energy in the event of an accident. The safety beams surrounding the interior are meant to withstand the impact. So while the crumple zones hopefully do what they are meant to do, the rest of the car with the occupants will stay relatively intact. I'm personally waiting for "securefoam" like on Demolition Man, but I can see it now, people purposefully getting into accidents in an attempt to activate the foam.

[B8TTYVILLEKID]

I am really surprised the level of damage was not worse. Even with the velocity vector in the same direction that was a violent collision. Does it look like the lincoln caught fire ?

[Silveradoss573]

Zero phucks given to the windowlicker speeding. I Hope he pays for may years to come. Sad deal for the innocent victims.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

after watching the below and watching the article, its a possibility that it was hit at 157.

Heres some food for debate, IIHS crash test @ 40mph
Video1
Video2

Still not seeing 157mph in these videos.

If you want to see what a 100mph impact looks like here you go.

Skip to the 55 second mark.



Now imagine 157mph in a Camaro.

Just not seeing that Camaro at 157mph when that impact occurred. Damage profile on the Camaro doesn't fit.

Here's another one:



And this one wasn't even a direct hit.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Still not seeing 157mph in these videos.

If you want to see what a 100mph impact looks like here you go.


Now imagine 157mph in a Camaro.

Just not seeing that Camaro at 157mph when that impact occurred. Damage profile on the Camaro doesn't fit.

I guess you have to factor the physics of both cars are in motion moving in the the same direction and both will absorb some of the impact. Any physics majors?

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by L78toLT1

Just think how many incidents like this we will see when EVs take over. In a few years, all but the bottom of the barrel, entry level offerings will annihilate a 6th gen Camaro in a straight line while weighing an extra ton or so and not handling any where near as well. I'm not anti-ev, but I do believe incidents such as this will become more common when the family SUV or sedan is capable of knocking down 3 sec or better 0 - 60 times. Lots of more affluent kids will be learning to drive in cars that will run 9 - 10sec in the 1/4 mile.

No doubt performance EVs like those from Tesla are quick but as an owner of one they are so locked down from a software perspective they are quite numb and really buttoned down. On a Tesla there is no option to turn off the nannies, which is probably good for most of the drivers but a bummer for the driving enthusiast. There is a Track Mode on the Performance trim but you still can't disable traction control on it.

From an excessive speeding perspective, sure, you build up speed pretty quick with EVs but you can do the same in a Toyota Corolla if you have enough runway. Most EVs are quick down at the lower 0-60mph speeds and don't pull nearly as hard above those speeds, with the exception of the Plaid.

[Aragorn]

I grew up in very small towns with with long straight and open roads and little to no traffic. I drove a bit reckless here and there, but I don’t think I ever broke 100mph. It just scared the hell out of me. Now it’s more like 80mph that scares me. Different brain I guess.

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