[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

The 1LE was a package that became available in the 2017 model year for the SS. It was never just a part of the SS package.



Once I had the transmission service bulletin done on my 8 speed, I've really enjoyed it. It's responsive, intelligent, and outside of the 1 - 2 shift harshness that some people seem to get when it's cold I have no desire for the 10 speed. The 8 speed isn't any slower. That said, the 8 speed had so many years of issues and complaints that its tarnished forever at this point, and they need to get the 10 speed in everything that was using the 8 speed before.

The 8 speed is actually proven to be slower than the A10. But regarding the trans bulletin yes I had the same done on my 2016. Never had an issue after that.

Also FYI the 1LE did come with the SS in 2016 as well as 2017+ models. What did come out in 2017 was the FE4 suspension according to that site.

The new 1LE package for Camaro 1SS models includes magnetic ride control, with a new FE4 suspension tuning and a new, segment-exclusive electronic limited slip differential (eLSD). ... The new 1LE packages are available in late 2016, on 2017 Camaro SS and LT V-6 coupes equipped with manual transmissions.

2016 Camaro SS 1LE sets the new benchmark for the segment, lapping the Big Willow track at Willow Springs three seconds faster than the standard Camaro SS.”

https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us...10-camaro.html

Sad when chevy's own site can't get the details right. I believe you are right still.

Another quote for that site:

FAST FACT: The 1LE package was developed in 1988 to make the Camaro more competitive in Showroom Stock road racing series and officially debuted in 1989. Four examples were reportedly built in 1988; with 111 built in 1989. The 1LE package was also featured on fourth-gen vehicles through the 1999 model year, returning to the fifth-gen Camaro in 2013.

Edit: lol I don't know anymore. I thought my 2016 had the 1LE but maybe it didn't.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by Anon9785

Ive decided im going to get a 6 speed SS camaro instead of automatic. Its bewildering why people pay 5 to 7 grand more just to not shift?

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing

I'm firmly in the last group, and anytime I see people talking about being in stop and go traffic and having "more fun" than someone in an MT...I scratch my head because it's not difficult...

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing

I'm firmly in the last group, and anytime I see people talking about being in stop and go traffic and having "more fun" than someone in an MT...I scratch my head because it's not difficult...

May not be that difficult but every one I've ever talked to that uses a stick hates it in rush hour.

But I acknowledge the advantage of a stick especially in autocross. But if you want to win a modern day drag race you don't use a stick in these cars at least. I'm not talking about funny car or something a little off the wall by comparison.

I never learned to drive a stick, and I just don't care enough about it to learn to be honest.

I never wanted to learn it and still don't.

I have driven a stick before it wasn't to difficult to pick up, but learning to drive a stick for the first time is like learning to drive a car for the first time when you were 16. Its a little intimidating at first until you get the hang of it.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

May not be that difficult but every one I've ever talked to that uses a stick hates it in rush hour.

But I acknowledge the advantage of a stick especially in autocross. But if you want to win a modern day drag race you don't use a stick in these cars at least. I'm not talking about funny car or something a little off the wall by comparison.

I never learned to drive a stick, and I just don't care enough about it to learn to be honest.

I never wanted to learn it and still don't.

I have driven a stick before it wasn't to difficult to pick up, but learning to drive a stick for the first time is like learning to drive a car for the first time when you were 16. Its a little intimidating at first until you get the hang of it.

Mind you, my list is VERY trimmed down in regards to reasons. I acknowledge that modern autos are faster than a stick in almost every regard now.

Frankly, for ME, it comes down to the "connected" feeling I have with my car. It's another level of immersion that I'd sorely miss when it's gone. I don't care if it's a couple of a tenths slower 0-60, or a whole host of other things - I want that raw feeling.

Also, it's the perfect anti-theft device now-a-days

[UnknownJinX]

Originally Posted by Hops

I'll talk about the 19. It looks great. Glad i didn't listen to you guys in 2018-2019. Well, i knew to ignore y'all, because nearly every opinion was from someone that had no real stake in it, or someone that hadn't see it in person. Anway... if it bothers one so much, the $130 'offending piece' can be swapped out.... and you would need a little body paint. But someone needs to sell that 2019 center piece, i might be in the market for it if i get a 2023, i want the 2019 front end

I think someone said it before that 19 SS's front end works well with some colours but not so much with others. I am one of those people who kind of bashed it when it came out, but once I saw my SS 1LE Shock in person, I didn't mind it at all. IMO, 19 SS front end works better with Shock than 20+ SS front end.

My car gets compliments and turns heads, so it looks fine enough.

Originally Posted by Anon9785

Ive decided im going to get a 6 speed SS camaro instead of automatic. Its bewildering why people pay 5 to 7 grand more just to not shift?

Automatics nowadays are faster and more efficient. Not that they matter for me, given the joy of driving a stick shift.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
  
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
  
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing
  

I'm firmly in the last group, and anytime I see people talking about being in stop and go traffic and having "more fun" than someone in an MT...I scratch my head because it's not difficult...

The trick is to not skip leg days. Yes, they suck, but you gotta do them.

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by Anon9785

A8 nd a10 meaning 8 and 10 speed? What years are 10 speed?

I believe the 2018 ZL1 got the 10 speed first, then the SS is 2019 and up.

[MightyBobo]

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX

The trick is to not skip leg days. Yes, they suck, but you gotta do them.

And I freaking LOVE leg days, which might say something

[Anon9785]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

You'll be happy. I would've gone automatic if not for the cost difference. Glad I didn't given the A8 problems.

For whatever reason people are always thrilled that I have a manual transmission in my Camaro. seriously it's the one thing that triggers compliments. Dying breed, I guess.

Ive always preferred manual. Only reason i considered auto was for remote start because i absolutely hate sitting in my cold ass car early in the morning for 30 min before work just to get it warmed up.

Im assuming that the manuals have no issues from 2016 to 2022? Nothing to keep an eye out for when shopping?

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Also, it's the perfect anti-theft device now-a-days

[Anon9785]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing

I'm firmly in the last group, and anytime I see people talking about being in stop and go traffic and having "more fun" than someone in an MT...I scratch my head because it's not difficult...

I have driven stick for around 7 years now for work, and i am on the last group as well. As my last post stated, i just eyed auto for the remote start because mornings here are down to 10 degrees and lower sometimes and its crappy to sit in the cold car while you wait for it to warm up. I guess thats negated now though with the keyless start as i can just get in the car start it take the fob with me lock the doors while it warms up and go back inside for a bit with the stick shift.

Stick is so much more enjoyable for me. I get bored with automatic. Stick keeps me from texting and driving. Auto i get bored and end up texting and driving out of boredom. So i can use the excuse that stick shift is safer for me than automatic, albeit a crappy excuse lol. I need to just ditch my cell phone entirely. People know where to find me if they need to contact me.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing

I'm firmly in the last group, and anytime I see people talking about being in stop and go traffic and having "more fun" than someone in an MT...I scratch my head because it's not difficult...

Yes there are currently 3 types of Enthusiasts....

Those who can drive a stick and those who can't.

[SS_Don]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

There's 3 types of enthusiasts I've found:

• People that detest putting work into shifting, and want an automatic
• People that CAN row their own gears, but still have to devote mental energy to it, so they can take it or leave it
• People who can drive an MT on autopilot, and it's as easy as walking or breathing

Need to add one more. I can drive a stick and enjoyed it, especially on my ‘84 Z28. However, I now have issues with my left knee that will get exacerbated by using a clutch constantly. So I have to settle for the A10.


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[Anon9785]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

Need to add one more. I can drive a stick and enjoyed it, especially on my ‘84 Z28. However, I now have issues with my left knee that will get exacerbated by using a clutch constantly. So I have to settle for the A10.


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But, you have a valid reason to drive an automatic. I think of automatic more of the option to use for medical reasons or for someone who literally cannot drive a stick after they have first tried to drive stick and just cannot.

I will say i like automatic in my trucks when im hauling stuff as its annoying with those heavy duty clutches just absolutely wearing on my leg really quickly. But in cars? Easy as heck to drive a stick.

Im just bored of automatics from driving them for so long.

[Aragorn]

1LE arrived to SS IN 2017.