[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by KamZL1

Doesn't need cooling mods at all actually for how I'm using it according to him, now of course they won't hurt but aren't absolutely necessary. (fun street car) This man tunes the baddest shit around Houston and everyone around here knows it. I trust him. I mean, I'm pretty sure these cars have very stout cooling systems from factory that can handle a little extra blower rpm or am I being delusional?

If you do headers, CAI, and the 9.17 lower pulley it won't need it just cruising around. You get into the street racing with the guys that stay up to 2 or 3 am on 99 beating on the car you need it. If your leaving a meet and run one guy out of the parking lot you won't need it! If your sitting in traffic on 59 and temps get high your not racing anyhow lol. There closing royal Purple/ Houston Raceway in Baytown shortly and Hennessey's track in Sealy has been open to the public since the begging of covid and talking to there tuner at the Airshow 2 weeks ago they have no plans to. As far as road course the way they operate here is 15 min sessions and wait 45 to 1 hour till your group comes up again the car can survive for 15 mins. most likely you will have brake fade 1st if your not experienced!

When I had just a lower I put the azz hurting on 458s and 488s on 59 and beltway 8 all the time. Also took out some modified Beamers and other various supercars.

You will love the extra 100 hp maybe 80 if auto. Matt will let you get the parts and have rodney install..

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I can see him saying that not that it doesn't add hp but as the fact that you put the wrong content in and get blamed for blowing up a motor.

I never see anyone here tell people just do it right and buy the proper fuel system. It's always run meth or add as much E as you can before fuel pressure plummets

I don't consider mixing E "not doing it right". The gains above E60 is minimal...the stuff isn't hard to mix. It's super easy to monitor E content.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I said stay at E40 just because a person might miscalculate. At least if you miscalculate with E40 then you have some wiggle room in case you end up with E50. But that's just me. I'm always worried that I might be in a rush and calculate things incorrectly. As of right now I have the FF but not the sensor. That is on my list for my next round of mods. Once I have that then I should be fine.

I have read that FIC +30s with the Lingenfelter pump is good enough to safely run full E85. So I just need someone to straight up tell me exactly what I need to run full E85 safely and if that will also allow me to run regular 93 without issues. Money is not an issue as I am planning my build around convenience of just being able to pull up to the pump and put E85 in without having to do any math. If I need +60s then that's what I will buy. If I can get away with using +30s safely then that is what I'll get. I just need a straight answer.

There is no reason to miscalculate...if you add too much E then you add some pump gas back in. It's super easy to monitor anyway. Torque Pro app is all you need with a obd 2 blutooth device. I have only miscalculated once or twice in 900 gallons of fuel I have put in my car. Either way after you mix, you fire up the torque pro app and watch the E content for a few miles to see where it settles in at to verify...not difficult.

I read that too a long time ago. Then when I started tuning some of these cars I quickly learned that not everything you read is true. My brother has +30, LPE gen 2 hpfp, +32% cam, aux low side. It's limited to E60 @ 15-16 psi when its above 70. when it drops to 50 degrees then it's out of fuel. I have it targeting .83-.84 lambda. It's a 11:1 H/C 2650 build hitting a peak of 17 psi in cooler temps.

The problem is he didn't get a big enough fuel lobe to utilize the LPE gen 2 pump. You need a 42% lobe....we could probably work around that some with some XDI +60's but I still don't think it will ever have enough fuel for true 85% Ethanol.

I think you will likely get to E75-E80 with +30 and LPE pump, but it will near it's limitations.

Originally Posted by KamZL1

Doesn't need cooling mods at all actually for how I'm using it according to him, now of course they won't hurt but aren't absolutely necessary. (fun street car) This man tunes the baddest shit around Houston and everyone around here knows it. I trust him. I mean, I'm pretty sure these cars have very stout cooling systems from factory that can handle a little extra blower rpm or am I being delusional?

Do what ya do...it's your car. Sorian is a good tuner so go with what he says. I am just offering my opinion based on my experiences. I am not the average forum member that repeats what shop says. I have hundreds of hours invested in tuning this platform and I have tuned several LT cars on the side as a hobby. The benefits I see from even just E40 vs 93 is great enough I will never recommend 93 over E under any circumstances if its readily available in your area.

[KamZL1]

Yeah I can tell you are very knowledgeable about these things King and I thank you for sharing that knowledge with me, but with that being said if someone like you can still get the mixtures wrong after all the time spent working with E contents/tuning, what would that mean for someone like me who has never had experience with it? plus to me that becomes a constant chore and a constant worry when I just want to jump in and have fun with it you know. I've had built diesels in the past where I couldn't even really enjoy driving it that much because I was constantly worried about temps/coolant levels and other things going wrong (it was a POS but you get the point) I can't speak for the man as to why he says to avoid it if I can, but I'm thinking he has seen some bad shit happen at LEAST a few times to make him say that to a customer who is going to spend a decent amount of money with his business. Again thankyou for sharing your knowledge with this, I've learned from you and I appreciate it.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by KamZL1

Yeah I can tell you are very knowledgeable about these things King and I thank you for sharing that knowledge with me, but with that being said if someone like you can still get the mixtures wrong after all the time spent working with E contents/tuning, what would that mean for someone like me who has never had experience with it? plus to me that becomes a constant chore and a constant worry when I just want to jump in and have fun with it you know. I've had built diesels in the past where I couldn't even really enjoy driving it that much because I was constantly worried about temps/coolant levels and other things going wrong (it was a POS but you get the point) I can't speak for the man as to why he says to avoid it if I can, but I'm thinking he has seen some bad shit happen at LEAST a few times to make him say that to a customer who is going to spend a decent amount of money with his business. Again thankyou for sharing your knowledge with this, I've learned from you and I appreciate it.

Not sure if you fully understand the concept of Flexfuel? On a Flexfuel setup the sensor reads the Alcohol content in the fuel and reports it to the ECU. The ECU is setup to be able to compensate for Alcohol content ranging from 0 to 85%. You can run pump gas or any percentage of Ethanol between 0-85% and the ECU will adjust the tune on the fly. The one and only issue with running is E is it's demand on the fuel system is much greater then pump gas. Your stock fuel system will not keep up trying to deliver 85% ethanol to the engine and fuel pressure will drop. So you have to find the max amount of E your setup can handle without pressure drop and IPW's greater then 6.0 ms. So if you dyno the car or log it on the street and it will handle lets say E60, then shoot for anywhere in the E40-E50 range and you will never have any issues.

The mixture I got wrong was by a couple percent. It would of likely been fine either way but I am just super cautious since I have a SBE LT1. I have glass jaw pistons compared to a LT4 and it's still going after 3yrs of boost running E. 11k miles and over 100 1/8 - 1/4 mi pulls with no issues. The car traps 136 full weight on 20" wheels. So it's hard for me to relate to any tuner suggesting that E is potentially dangerous when it is big reason why my LT1 is still alive. Now Keep in mind the LT4 is lower compression and works better with pump gas then the LT1 does with boost. But LT4's also love some E.

Either way I would install a flex sensor when you do your mods. That way after you get some experience, you might decide to try adding a little E down the road and it will already be setup for it. Even just E30-40 will get you a nice bump in power.

Good Luck

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Not sure if you fully understand the concept of Flexfuel? On a Flexfuel setup the sensor reads the Alcohol content in the fuel and reports it to the ECU. The ECU is setup to be able to compensate for Alcohol content ranging from 0 to 85%. You can run pump gas or any percentage of Ethanol between 0-85% and the ECU will adjust the tune on the fly. The one and only issue with running is E is it's demand on the fuel system is much greater then pump gas. Your stock fuel system will not keep up trying to deliver 85% ethanol to the engine and fuel pressure will drop. So you have to find the max amount of E your setup can handle without pressure drop and IPW's greater then 6.0 ms. So if you dyno the car or log it on the street and it will handle lets say E60, then shoot for anywhere in the E40-E50 range and you will never have any issues.

The mixture I got wrong was by a couple percent. It would of likely been fine either way but I am just super cautious since I have a SBE LT1. I have glass jaw pistons compared to a LT4 and it's still going after 3yrs of boost running E. 11k miles and over 100 1/8 - 1/4 mi pulls with no issues. The car traps 136 full weight on 20" wheels. So it's hard for me to relate to any tuner suggesting that E is potentially dangerous when it is big reason why my LT1 is still alive. Now Keep in mind the LT4 is lower compression and works better with pump gas then the LT1 does with boost. But LT4's also love some E.

Either way I would install a flex sensor when you do your mods. That way after you get some experience, you might decide to try adding a little E down the road and it will already be setup for it. Even just E30-40 will get you a nice bump in power.

Good Luck

I just got my sensor installed and running E for first time. Even if you screw up and add to much E then what you can run just don’t stab the go pedal until you add the proper amount back via pump. It really isn’t hard, and with any decent app it does the math for you.

I’m using E85 mix on my iPhone.

[KingLT1]

^Exactly. I also have that app...it works pretty well.

[JSH]

King, Are you an Ethanol distributor?

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Not sure if you fully understand the concept of Flexfuel? On a Flexfuel setup the sensor reads the Alcohol content in the fuel and reports it to the ECU. The ECU is setup to be able to compensate for Alcohol content ranging from 0 to 85%. You can run pump gas or any percentage of Ethanol between 0-85% and the ECU will adjust the tune on the fly. The one and only issue with running is E is it's demand on the fuel system is much greater then pump gas. Your stock fuel system will not keep up trying to deliver 85% ethanol to the engine and fuel pressure will drop. So you have to find the max amount of E your setup can handle without pressure drop and IPW's greater then 6.0 ms. So if you dyno the car or log it on the street and it will handle lets say E60, then shoot for anywhere in the E40-E50 range and you will never have any issues.

The mixture I got wrong was by a couple percent. It would of likely been fine either way but I am just super cautious since I have a SBE LT1. I have glass jaw pistons compared to a LT4 and it's still going after 3yrs of boost running E. 11k miles and over 100 1/8 - 1/4 mi pulls with no issues. The car traps 136 full weight on 20" wheels. So it's hard for me to relate to any tuner suggesting that E is potentially dangerous when it is big reason why my LT1 is still alive. Now Keep in mind the LT4 is lower compression and works better with pump gas then the LT1 does with boost. But LT4's also love some E.

Either way I would install a flex sensor when you do your mods. That way after you get some experience, you might decide to try adding a little E down the road and it will already be setup for it. Even just E30-40 will get you a nice bump in power.

Good Luck

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by JSH

King, Are you an Ethanol distributor?

What would give you any idea that he is an Ethanol dealer? He is just advising a newcomer on the easiest and safest way to give his car a little boost in power - that doesn't cost $20K?

[JSH]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

What would give you any idea that he is an Ethanol dealer? He is just advising a newcomer on the easiest and safest way to give his car a little boost in power - that doesn't cost $20K?

It's called sarcasm, because he's always lauding the merits of EtOH.

He and I have exchanged many messages here and his advice forms the basis of my current build

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by MartinLe

What would give you any idea that he is an Ethanol dealer? He is just advising a newcomer on the easiest and safest way to give his car a little boost in power - that doesn't cost $20K?

JSH just says random sillyness on a daily basis.


He drives a Hennessey car which speaks for itself..


Hes now using recycled cat urine to make 900rwhp.

[MartinLe]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

JSH just says random sillyness on a daily basis.


He drives a Hennessey car which speaks for itself..


Hes now using recycled cat urine to make 900rwhp.

Thank you for the laugh.

[JSH]

I see my troll, Camaro1973, is still at it while knowing he's on my blocked list. Just ignore him, he's jealous.

[Metal_AF]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Not sure if you fully understand the concept of Flexfuel? On a Flexfuel setup the sensor reads the Alcohol content in the fuel and reports it to the ECU. The ECU is setup to be able to compensate for Alcohol content ranging from 0 to 85%. You can run pump gas or any percentage of Ethanol between 0-85% and the ECU will adjust the tune on the fly. The one and only issue with running is E is it's demand on the fuel system is much greater then pump gas. Your stock fuel system will not keep up trying to deliver 85% ethanol to the engine and fuel pressure will drop. So you have to find the max amount of E your setup can handle without pressure drop and IPW's greater then 6.0 ms. So if you dyno the car or log it on the street and it will handle lets say E60, then shoot for anywhere in the E40-E50 range and you will never have any issues.

The mixture I got wrong was by a couple percent. It would of likely been fine either way but I am just super cautious since I have a SBE LT1. I have glass jaw pistons compared to a LT4 and it's still going after 3yrs of boost running E. 11k miles and over 100 1/8 - 1/4 mi pulls with no issues. The car traps 136 full weight on 20" wheels. So it's hard for me to relate to any tuner suggesting that E is potentially dangerous when it is big reason why my LT1 is still alive. Now Keep in mind the LT4 is lower compression and works better with pump gas then the LT1 does with boost. But LT4's also love some E.

Either way I would install a flex sensor when you do your mods. That way after you get some experience, you might decide to try adding a little E down the road and it will already be setup for it. Even just E30-40 will get you a nice bump in power.

Good Luck

+1 this is good advice. Upgrading the fuel system isn't a bad idea anyways. I don't know when you need to upgrade your pump on this platform, but injectors, fuel rail and line are common upgrades that go along with E. Don't be afraid to run E, just make sure you have a good tuner and the correct fuel system support. Its really a fun upgrade and you will try to avoid normal pump gas at all costs one you can, haha.

[Camaro1973]

Originally Posted by JSH

I see my troll, Camaro1973, is still at it while knowing he's on my blocked list. Just ignore him, he's jealous.

Jealous of what?? That you spent 50k on a Hennessy car that people spend less than half on and barely made 700rwhp?


You have no clue what your saying or doing and post random nonsense that makes absolutely 0 sense and give out bad and horrible advice to new people entering the performance market.



You don't even know whats it your car let alone what kind of real performance numbers you make. Many people have asked you and you have yet to answer simple questions.


I'm not jealous of you or anyone for that matter, however I do have an issue with you giving out bad info to people which is why i harped on you and tried to correct you a dozen times, but you ignore pretty much everyone and just blabber away.


I'm sure someone will quote this just for you.