[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by lenix38

My brother has a gt350 it has no power at the bottom of the rev range, you have to really work the engine at the top end of the rev range to get the motor to push out the power. I rather have a pushrod engine. Plentiful of power on tap regardless of rev range.

I think this will be surprise for a lot of folks that don't understand how different engines make power. However, the mid-engine layout, DCT transmission and better launch performance increase you get as result probably make up for it. It will have less torque but pull off 0-60mph in 2.6 sec and 1/4 mi in 10.5 sec.

The bigger issue is Corvette as a brand is starting to price out a large percentage of folks now and with the Camaro on its way out I am curious what will fill the gap, a performance EV sedan? I just had one of those and while they make for great daily drivers they leave a lot lacking for an enthusiast.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by lenix38

Their isn’t really a gen 2 voodoo. But even the “gen 2 voodoo” is still problematic. Check the Shelby forums. Only time will tell how the LT6 performs. Regarding a race car engine, those engines are rebuilt frequently and aren’t exactly a production release motor. Could use a similar block, but the rest of the internals are optimized for track performance and not everyday car.

My brother has a gt350 it has no power at the bottom of the rev range, you have to really work the engine at the top end of the rev range to get the motor to push out the power. I rather have a pushrod engine. Plentiful of power on tap regardless of rev range.

Never said the C8 Z06 engine was a copy of the race car, I said they've had experience with a FPC engine and I'm sure after a few years of racing them, they've learned lessons from it that will trickle down to the C8 Z06. Again, you're comparing this car to a GT350 which is an entirely different vehicle, different gearing, different trans, different engine, different weight of vehicle. GM spent a lot of time investing in this, I doubt they did it because they just thought it would be cool. Probably best to reserve your judgment until you actually drive one. Your brother may not like his GT350 but I find them to be a LOT of fun to drive.

[ponyboy96]

I really like the z06. I think it would suit me just fine on the track. On the street and in the mountains, I don’t know if I would like it or not. I’ll have to wait to drive it to decide. I know I do not like the FPC 5.2 in the gt350. I know the c8 is a different car, but man coming from a 5.4 GT500 and driving the 5.2 GT350, it was definitely lacking until you revved the heck out of it. Vs my GT500 that just had instant power much like my ZLE. I’ll have to drive one and see. I hope it’s geared to give a ton of lowers grunt without having to launch it at 6800rpms to get it out the hole.

[Martinjlm]

Remember, the 5.5L has a shorter stroke and lighter pistons than the Voodoo engine. Less rotating inertia mass. Which means it will reach higher revs faster. That seemed to be the common song that the riders in the video kept singing. How fast it hit those high revs.

[CamOnlyJabroni]

C8Z definitely looks better than the stingray. Only color I really like in the base model is black because it hides how unbalanced the body itself looks as a whole. I don’t like the sound of the 5.5 or the torque. People that say torque doesn’t matter are smoking crack for a street car. When I want to roll into the throttle quarter throttle and the car doesn’t do anything because it needs to hit vtech is a problem. My modified C7Z will accelerate harder at half throttle than the C8Z will at full throttle. Also not sure about people commenting on how C7Z’s don’t hook. With in the vicinity of 1kwhp, mine rolls out fine from 50 on up with proper suspension, alignment and tires. I also don’t believe the C8Z will do 2.6 0-60 because GM goes after the magazine racers and post times with rollout. Stingray owners for the past year have been posting their 0-60 times thinking their car actually does high 2’s. The PDR is not accurate and Dragy proves that. C8Z surprised me looks wise. A little more of a fan now of the new platform. It is funny how the majority talk about what it does from a stop. The only people that worry about that are magazine readers and people that don’t make power. On the street, very seldom do you run from a stop. On the strip, everyone is hooking with a proper setup.

Note:I’m only comparing my C7 to the lack of torque that the C8Z makes. Torque gets you places easy without driving around sounding like a sport bike. I like that on the street. Chances are all the idiots will be riding your ass in a C8Z because at 5-6krpm, they will think you’re trying to race around. Car will attract all the sheep on the street.

[semif18]

I was not a C8 fan......the styling just didn't grab me, then I saw this pic of a "regular" C8 with custom wheels and bigger 325 rear tires. Totally changed the look of the car.......now this I could drive!

[CamOnlyJabroni]

Originally Posted by semif18

I was not a C8 fan......the styling just didn't grab me, then I saw this pic of a "regular" C8 with custom wheels and bigger 325 rear tires. Totally changed the look of the car.......now this I could drive!

Wheels help a lot I will say that. How good is the styling of the car when you spend 85-110k on a car and have to put wheels on it because it has a factory front wheel offset of a lawn mower wheel though?

[closs2sx]

Originally Posted by semif18

I was not a C8 fan......the styling just didn't grab me, then I saw this pic of a "regular" C8 with custom wheels and bigger 325 rear tires. Totally changed the look of the car.......now this I could drive!

I could drive it but I wouldn't pay for it.

[BluinSC]

Members of Corvette forum are getting emails from Kerbeck (now Ciocca Corvette) stating base price will be $85.5k. Obviously second hand, but if that's actually confirmed by GM good luck getting one in the next 3 years.

[FlowTie]

I don't find the C8/C8Z design appealing, for a mid engine refined performance car it looks rather boxy and contrived. That's entirely superficial though. I don't think the gen 6 ZL1/ZLE is especially appealing either, and for similar reasons, but I bought one for the track due to R8 and Lambo or AMG GT (front mid engine) long term ownership hurdles. The ZLE made sense to me in regard to performance (hot) : ownership cost (crazy). I will say the C8 interior feels like a million bucks when you sit in the driver seat, really no contest there in comparison to a lot of other cars full stop.

For folks lauding the rear mid engine change I agree it makes any car better, different, but better around a track. I'd like to see longevity in this still relatively new chassis and engine before putting money down however. The Fiero was rear engine RWD MT, yet from a former ownership perspective not a shining example of performance or reliability regardless of power output. I think the older and typically wealthier crowd will dig em, I'm a younger track guy willing to make automotive things a distinct priority but the media hype and price games will be bonkers for awhile. Crawling over broken glass to early adopt a brand new 100k+ depreciating investment with little hope of future and/or affordable tuning doesn't compel me at present. Still really cool just not for me, and honestly with a Fiero or MR2 and 30k you could make a streetable track car that excites me a whole lot more.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by FlowTie

I don't find the C8/C8Z design appealing, for a mid engine refined performance car it looks rather boxy and contrived. That's entirely superficial though. I don't think the gen 6 ZL1/ZLE is especially appealing either, and for similar reasons, but I bought one for the track due to R8 and Lambo or AMG GT (front mid engine) long term ownership hurdles. The ZLE made sense to me in regard to performance (hot) : ownership cost (crazy). I will say the C8 interior feels like a million bucks when you sit in the driver seat, really no contest there in comparison to a lot of other cars full stop.

For folks lauding the rear mid engine change I agree it makes any car better, different, but better around a track. I'd like to see longevity in this still relatively new chassis and engine before putting money down however. The Fiero was rear engine RWD MT, yet from a former ownership perspective not a shining example of performance or reliability regardless of power output. I think the older and typically wealthier crowd will dig em, I'm a younger track guy willing to make automotive things a distinct priority but the media hype and price games will be bonkers for awhile. Crawling over broken glass to early adopt a brand new 100k+ depreciating investment with little hope of future and/or affordable tuning doesn't compel me at present. Still really cool just not for me, and honestly with a Fiero or MR2 and 30k you could make a streetable track car that excites me a whole lot more.

My current project car…

Don’t expect I’ll need to put 30k into it, though.

[serper3]

I really wish i looked the looks of the c8z more. maybe it will be better in person. I am also disappointed in the weight. euro exotics are AWD and weigh less dont they?

If the price with the z07 package is around mid 100k, I would rather buy a used gt3 right now. Maybe in several years after this car is proven more I would consider it if the driving experience will do it for me but like a lot of people on here I am not sure.

The porsche is a dream to drive, you know it will hold value better long term, i would be much less concerned about reliability with a new platform. pdk is proven, the chassis is proven, engines are proven etc.

[genxer]

Impressed or not, I can't relate to it. This Corvette just isn't a Chevy anymore. Because it boiler plate one-ups the exotics. Would've rather seen this as a Caddy.

This with a caveat, I won't be shopping this level of car. Camaro pickings and news are slim. I got sucked in by a good title, looking for the zz632 thread.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni

C8Z definitely looks better than the stingray. Only color I really like in the base model is black because it hides how unbalanced the body itself looks as a whole. I don’t like the sound of the 5.5 or the torque. People that say torque doesn’t matter are smoking crack for a street car. When I want to roll into the throttle quarter throttle and the car doesn’t do anything because it needs to hit vtech is a problem. My modified C7Z will accelerate harder at half throttle than the C8Z will at full throttle. Also not sure about people commenting on how C7Z’s don’t hook. With in the vicinity of 1kwhp, mine rolls out fine from 50 on up with proper suspension, alignment and tires. I also don’t believe the C8Z will do 2.6 0-60 because GM goes after the magazine racers and post times with rollout. Stingray owners for the past year have been posting their 0-60 times thinking their car actually does high 2’s. The PDR is not accurate and Dragy proves that. C8Z surprised me looks wise. A little more of a fan now of the new platform. It is funny how the majority talk about what it does from a stop. The only people that worry about that are magazine readers and people that don’t make power. On the street, very seldom do you run from a stop. On the strip, everyone is hooking with a proper setup.

Note:I’m only comparing my C7 to the lack of torque that the C8Z makes. Torque gets you places easy without driving around sounding like a sport bike. I like that on the street. Chances are all the idiots will be riding your ass in a C8Z because at 5-6krpm, they will think you’re trying to race around. Car will attract all the sheep on the street.

Its not about peak torque numbers, the torque curve and gearing matters much more. The engine also revs extremely quick supposedly. This is not the same as a VTEC engine with a narrow power band in the high rpms.

Case in point, the ZL1's LT4 makes more peak torque at a slightly lower rpm than a Hellcat's engine yet the Hellcat is just as quick off the line even in a car that weighs over 500lbs more. The Hellcat has a very fat torque curve and is geared to take advantage of it.