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Old 01-26-2021, 04:35 PM   #1
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5 things i hate about my ZLE

Actually, i dont hate anything about it. I believe it's the best bang for the buck and it's an overall upgrade from the Shelby GT350 i had. Since no car is perfect, here are 5 things that annoy me:

5) Gauges in dash--> I prefer the analog gauges in the Shelby. I wish there was a way to move the oil temp gauge to the main screen?

4) Traction control button location--> I've turned the traction control off a few times on accident

3) Electric e-brake--> Not a fan at all of the electric e-brake on any sports car. I guess i have to get used to it.

2) No lumbar adjustment in the seat--> i have back issues so this would be nice

1) Skip shift--> i know this can easily be fixed but why even have it??
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Old 01-26-2021, 04:54 PM   #2
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5) Gauges in dash--> I prefer the analog gauges in the Shelby. I wish there was a way to move the oil temp gauge to the main screen?
Not a ZLE but a SS 1LE, I agree. The one thing I really feel would make this car perfect while sitting in the driver's seat would be the ability to customize the individual digital gauge displays in the dash. I would also love it if you could add some gauges to the Infotainment display in the middle of the dash. I am an info whore and would love to be able to see the oil temp and trans temp, as well as tire pressures and temps all at the same time.
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Old 01-26-2021, 06:09 PM   #3
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I added an aeroforce gauge with the pod in the defroster vent.

I set it to show me oil and coolant temp while racing and have the main display showing trans temps. All I need to see for those 20 minutes.
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:09 PM   #4
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I get the skip shift message, but i dont recall ever getting locked out of a gear, I go 1-3 all the time.
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Old 01-26-2021, 08:18 PM   #5
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Actually, i dont hate anything about it. I believe it's the best bang for the buck and it's an overall upgrade from the Shelby GT350 i had. Since no car is perfect, here are 5 things that annoy me:

5) Gauges in dash--> I prefer the analog gauges in the Shelby. I wish there was a way to move the oil temp gauge to the main screen?

4) Traction control button location--> I've turned the traction control off a few times on accident

3) Electric e-brake--> Not a fan at all of the electric e-brake on any sports car. I guess i have to get used to it.

2) No lumbar adjustment in the seat--> i have back issues so this would be nice

1) Skip shift--> i know this can easily be fixed but why even have it??
5) Unfortunately, the gauge layout is fixed within each theme. I'd also love to have a configurable cluster.

4) If you're so inclined, a solution like this might help: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=554173

3) Yep

2) Check out this thread about power lumbar installation (2SS, but the same process should work with a ZL1): https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=587273

1) Skip shift saved you about a grand in gas guzzler tax and the eliminator costs about $25
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Old 01-26-2021, 08:32 PM   #6
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Actually, i dont hate anything about it. I believe it's the best bang for the buck and it's an overall upgrade from the Shelby GT350 i had. Since no car is perfect, here are 5 things that annoy me:

5) Gauges in dash--> I prefer the analog gauges in the Shelby. I wish there was a way to move the oil temp gauge to the main screen?
you can tweak the screens to show different options.
on the DIC (driver information center), scroll down to options.
display theme
select Standard or Technology.

Then when you go back to performance view and you can scroll through lots of gauges. oil temp, trans temp, oil pressure, tire pressure etc....

will snap a picture and post it
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:06 PM   #7
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5. Meh, I have driven in a Mustang GT and I didn't like the analog gauges because they are hard to see and at an awkward location. You can se the DIC to display oil temperature, as mentioned, though you can't see a combination of it and other parameters.

4. Never happened to me, though someone had the same complaint a while back.

3. I am indifferent about it. I am not a drifter, so the only two states that matter are fully engaged and fully disengaged. Some here will concur with you very strongly.

2. Yep, a bit odd to me that's missing. Not a huge deal to me, but would be nice to have. You could probably buy a pillow or cushion of some sort to circumvent the issue.

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1) Skip shift saved you about a grand in gas guzzler tax and the eliminator costs about $25
1. I actually looked into it. Turns out that ZL1 is now considered a Gas Guzzler, auto or manual. I think it now more has to do with the fact that all TR-6060 is just made with the skip shift feature and shipped like that. I recall Dodge Challenger also having it with the manual V8 models. CAFE probably plays a role as well. Every little bit counts in CAFE.

Hilariously, it's the manual 392 Dodge Challenger that gets the Gas Guzzler tax, not the auto ones. The advantage of skip shift has greatly diminished due to ever-tightening standards, the advancement of automatic transmissions, and cylinder deactivation(which most manual V8 cars don't have; C7 is the only one that has it in my knowledge).

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...42885&id=42884
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Old 01-26-2021, 11:01 PM   #8
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1. I actually looked into it. Turns out that ZL1 is now considered a Gas Guzzler, auto or manual. I think it now more has to do with the fact that all TR-6060 is just made with the skip shift feature and shipped like that. I recall Dodge Challenger also having it with the manual V8 models. CAFE probably plays a role as well. Every little bit counts in CAFE.

Hilariously, it's the manual 392 Dodge Challenger that gets the Gas Guzzler tax, not the auto ones. The advantage of skip shift has greatly diminished due to ever-tightening standards, the advancement of automatic transmissions, and cylinder deactivation(which most manual V8 cars don't have; C7 is the only one that has it in my knowledge).

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find...42885&id=42884
The thing is, although the 2021 ZL1 is hit with a higher $1700 gas guzzler tax for some reason, this was $1300 for the 2018 model year, while a 2017 A10 ZL1 (surprisingly) slotted into the $2100 guzzler bracket. That difference is $800.

Of course, I can't know for sure how much forcing the 1->4 shift enhanced fuel economy during the EPA cycle, but I thought it would be reasonable to assume it's enough to make up the difference between the A10 and the M6 figures—possibly even more, given the manual should be less efficient to begin with, since it isn't shifted by a computer that will be to happy optimize perfectly for fuel consumption in tour mode.

However, this is only tangentially related to OP's thread, so let's not derail it
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Old 01-27-2021, 04:09 AM   #9
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1) it should have a rear view camera instead of a mirror. You can’t see anything with the wing of the ZLE.

2) I wish there had been an option to delete the alcantara and just have leather. Getting tired of cleaning it so much and just looks bad as it gets dirty. Also the steering wheel rim could be thicker.

3) center armrest storage is a joke, wish it was a bit bigger. And the door pocket storage is likewise smaller than it has to be. Minor overall.

4) the layout of the climate control buttons are just weird, but again, minor. The AC works well and the heated and cooled seats are nice enough.

5) no jack in the car at all. First vehicle I’ve owned that didn’t have a jack. Again, minor. More useful than a jack perhaps would be a bigger truck opening. The trunk is actually big enough, but the opening is small. A carryon is tight getting in there!
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Old 01-27-2021, 09:50 AM   #10
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Not a ZLE but a SS 1LE, I agree. The one thing I really feel would make this car perfect while sitting in the driver's seat would be the ability to customize the individual digital gauge displays in the dash. I would also love it if you could add some gauges to the Infotainment display in the middle of the dash. I am an info whore and would love to be able to see the oil temp and trans temp, as well as tire pressures and temps all at the same time.
The Hellcat center display is awesome for this.

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I added an aeroforce gauge with the pod in the defroster vent.

I set it to show me oil and coolant temp while racing and have the main display showing trans temps. All I need to see for those 20 minutes.
Also screw the analog and fake analog gauge displays that you can't know the real number. I went backwards in technology to a C6Z and I get a plain digital number for my oil temp. I don't have to think about the varied and differing graduations between the fake oil temp, tranny temp, and coolant temp gauges on the Camaro.
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Old 01-27-2021, 10:05 AM   #11
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I used to own a E90 M3 at one point and that thing had little to no information compared to the Camaro.

GM still is up there for giving us ample performance information.
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Old 01-27-2021, 12:22 PM   #12
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Well Eham, maybe you should go back to a Mustang! Lol...
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Old 01-27-2021, 12:30 PM   #13
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The Hellcat center display is awesome for this.



Also screw the analog and fake analog gauge displays that you can't know the real number. I went backwards in technology to a C6Z and I get a plain digital number for my oil temp. I don't have to think about the varied and differing graduations between the fake oil temp, tranny temp, and coolant temp gauges on the Camaro.
At least in the Challenger, the centre display is facing the driver, which makes it easier to see the numbers.

And AFAIK the only fake number in the Camaro is the coolant temperature. Everything else is supposedly accurate.

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Old 01-27-2021, 01:33 PM   #14
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If you drive in such a way that you activate the skip shift, you deserve every bit of the pain.

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