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Old 04-17-2017, 07:20 PM   #29
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Can someone who has DRs with a relatively stock SS w/A8 confirm how much tire spin they get?

I have about 9000mi on mine and I have done 2 3.9 0-60 times measured from the performance timer. I don't have a track near me but I've heard people say a pair of drag radials with about 15-20 psi have no trouble hooking up. I also have noticed the stock GY's do a lot better now the temps are into the 80s.

The launch control actually seems pretty good to me, but it still seems to lack consistency since it seems like it will unnecessarily pull way to much power and bog and sometimes it will squeak the tires just a little and provide a good launch. It looks like you will have to tune and understand the torque tables in HP tuners to be able to tweak the launch control, I can't find any tables directly related to the launch control.

I'm not sure if you could fit bigger than a 275 DR on the stock SS rims, or if it would even help increase contact patch? I still can't figure out how some people could get a better launch not using launch control? I don't see how you could feather the throttle better than the computer? Unless of course you're highly molded and the torque tables are off.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:40 PM   #30
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I spin with 305s so I imagine the narrower tires are even easier. Don't want wheel spin, don't floor it at low speeds.

But, killing tires is fun.
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Old 04-17-2017, 07:52 PM   #31
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Can someone who has DRs with a relatively stock SS w/A8 confirm how much tire spin they get?

I have about 9000mi on mine and I have done 2 3.9 0-60 times measured from the performance timer. I don't have a track near me but I've heard people say a pair of drag radials with about 15-20 psi have no trouble hooking up. I also have noticed the stock GY's do a lot better now the temps are into the 80s.

The launch control actually seems pretty good to me, but it still seems to lack consistency since it seems like it will unnecessarily pull way to much power and bog and sometimes it will squeak the tires just a little and provide a good launch. It looks like you will have to tune and understand the torque tables in HP tuners to be able to tweak the launch control, I can't find any tables directly related to the launch control.

I'm not sure if you could fit bigger than a 275 DR on the stock SS rims, or if it would even help increase contact patch? I still can't figure out how some people could get a better launch not using launch control? I don't see how you could feather the throttle better than the computer? Unless of course you're highly molded and the torque tables are off.
While i have a 5th gen I think i can give you a review. My car is full boltons with 391 gears. The Falken Aziens i had on it were pretty good on the street...so i thought. I had a 3200 stall put in back in nov and the car went to storage. Before i put it away i went for a quick run on a sideroad....witht the stall it blew the tires off so quick i hit the limiter. Last week after googling the hell out of drag radials and talking to hard core racers on Camaro 5 i had a set of Nitto 555r 305 35 20 drag radials installed . Good reviews for treadwear...rain and track performance. Took my car out to the sideroads again. Turned off all the nannies...foot braked the stall up to 1800 rpm and hammered it...spun for a couple of feet then hooked....ok not bad i thought. Now the roads have quit a bit sand from the winter so i wasnt that concerned. Moved up about 100 yards to a section of road where the pavement was better condition . Did the same thing....the car spun just a bit but hooked hard and i was gone. Can you ever feel the car pull alot harder with full traction.Keep in mind they are inflated for street use...30 or 32 psi. After my initial rundown i can honestly say that i love thses tire. Hope this ramble gives you some help....traction is traction regardless of what you drive. And they are on my stock rims.
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:05 PM   #32
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While i have a 5th gen I think i can give you a review. My car is full boltons with 391 gears. The Falken Aziens i had on it were pretty good on the street...so i thought. I had a 3200 stall put in back in nov and the car went to storage. Before i put it away i went for a quick run on a sideroad....witht the stall it blew the tires off so quick i hit the limiter. Last week after googling the hell out of drag radials and talking to hard core racers on Camaro 5 i had a set of Nitto 555r 305 35 20 drag radials installed . Good reviews for treadwear...rain and track performance. Took my car out to the sideroads again. Turned off all the nannies...foot braked the stall up to 1800 rpm and hammered it...spun for a couple of feet then hooked....ok not bad i thought. Now the roads have quit a bit sand from the winter so i wasnt that concerned. Moved up about 100 yards to a section of road where the pavement was better condition . Did the same thing....the car spun just a bit but hooked hard and i was gone. Can you ever feel the car pull alot harder with full traction.Keep in mind they are inflated for street use...30 or 32 psi. After my initial rundown i can honestly say that i love thses tire. Hope this ramble gives you some help....traction is traction regardless of what you drive. And they are on my stock rims.
Thanks for the info. So you fit 305s on your stock SS rims? I'm assuming the 5th gen SS have the same size rims as the 6th gen. So you're saying you can completely floor it off the line and just get just a little spin then it will hook? I am impressed by the lack of wheelhop and control when the tires do spin, but then again I came from a 500rw 2500 duramax.
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:11 PM   #33
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Thanks for the info. So you fit 305s on your stock SS rims? I'm assuming the 5th gen SS have the same size rims as the 6th gen. So you're saying you can completely floor it off the line and just get just a little spin then it will hook? I am impressed by the lack of wheelhop and control when the tires do spin, but then again I came from a 500rw 2500 duramax.
Yes I hit it hard off the line on the street with all the nannies off. Slight spin but not much at all. After all my mods i now think unless you have traction you really dont feel how well the car pulls. The Nitto 305 drag radial fit a little narrow...ive had 295s on the real for 2 years with zero issues. I have yet to try it with all the nannies on. But i am impressed for sure.

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Old 04-17-2017, 09:17 PM   #34
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Yes I hit it hard off the line on the street with all the nannies off. Slight spin but not much at all. After all my mods i now think unless you have traction you really dont feel how well the car pulls. The Nitto 305 drag radial fit a little narrow...ive had 295s on the real for 2 years with zero issues. I have yet to try it with all the nannies on. But i am impressed for sure.
The only worry I have is they will look ugly, I don't think they make DRs with as narrow a profile as the stock SS tires? so the sidewall will be bigger?
And I won't be able to impress stupid people who think how much your tires spin equals power haha
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:20 PM   #35
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The only worry I have is they will look ugly, I don't think they make DRs with as narrow a profile as the stock SS tires? so the sidewall will be bigger?
And I won't be able to impress stupid people who think how much your tires spin equals power haha
Lol....heres a side view...check out the other picks. You showoff.

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Old 04-19-2017, 11:21 AM   #36
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coming from the 1LE, the tires spin. I can imagine a stock SS with the skinnier and lesser tires would spin them like crazy. But my wheels only spin when the tires are cold, once their warmed up its good to go. If you're in 1st and mashing the throttle at 3-4k rpm, yea your gonna toast those tires. If you roll onto it you might do better. I can't imagine going to an SS with the factory wheels/tires/differential after owning the 1LE
I dunno man...I can mash it in 1st at 3-4k rpm and I don't spin at all. Even with T/C off. I have the GM lowering kit but I'm sure that doesn't make a difference.

Best I've done in my car 0-60 is 4.3, launching at 3,000 rpm-ish..no wheel spin. This is through an M6.

I honestly can't even get my car to lose traction unless I start dumping the clutch or something.

My 4th Gen Z28, 93' 240SX SR20, and C5 Vette all annihilated the tires in 1st gear. This car...just always has traction! Lol.

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Old 04-19-2017, 08:46 PM   #37
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Go with an all season tire like the continental DWS06. Those tires are great for every day traction.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:48 AM   #38
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Go with an all season tire like the continental DWS06. Those tires are great for every day traction . . .
. . . as long as the driver has some sense of how much power can be put through them. By his own admission, OP isn't quite there yet and either needs a bit more tire grip or a bit more time to settle into driving a car that's a lot more powerful than anything else he's driven. Or both.

Depending on where in CA, he may not need the 'S' part of any Continental tire (and might be better off without it). In Conti, that'd be a "DW" or one of the ContiSports. For you and me, living where subfreezing temperatures and at least occasional snow is a given, the choice of year-round tires for the daily-driver is different.


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Old 04-30-2017, 07:13 PM   #39
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Thinking some Mickey Thompson street drag radials are in order.
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Old 04-29-2020, 11:07 AM   #40
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2017 2SS A8 with MT ET Street (also tried M&H Drag Radial) @ 305/35/20, traction control off, dead stop, mash pedal to floor = spin through first and fishtail through second, even with warm tires on the street. However, pulled a best of 3.9 0-60 with these same drag radials and traction control off but had to feather the launch, i.e. not mash pedal to the floor but ease it out then floor it.

I tried various combinations of TC, LC, stock tires, Eagle F1 Supercar 3...the drag radials helped with proper technique and gave better times than the other tires and options for launch.
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Old 04-29-2020, 11:25 AM   #41
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2016 stock Camaro ss. Can this car just not put the power down ever without spinning the tires? I know it's rwd but isn't too much power. This is my first higher horsepower rwd car. Is this normal to expect?
I usually drive with T/C off but keep the anti skid on. Its fairly easy to spin the tires at least with the manual. A quick pull from about 55 mph from shifting down to 3rd I can feel the rear step out while driving on a spring day. Caution is advised when slamming to 2nd from about 35 or 40. I am running Cooper RS3 all seasons.

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Old 04-29-2020, 11:29 AM   #42
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That sounds like you are doing a "proper break-in." I have 13,000 miles on my SS and the tires break loose ALL the time. And always because I am commanding them to break loose thru the liberal use of my throttle pedal. And it NEVER breaks loose when I don't want it to. 400 more miles and you can try it in your 1LE. Lots of fun!
Yeh...I agree with that. I totally control the amount of spin and when to spin. I dictate the spin, not my car.
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