[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by 19 2SS

Thanks for the advice guys, im pretty new to all this! what would you guys suggest I do to increase performance? willing to play with around $2500 atm

if you need more power, and you really dont, the only way to make any significant amount more when you're already pushing 400+ is forced induction (if you're not already forced).

Well, FI and E85 are your best options at any meaningful increases in performance. Everything else is chasing single digit percents if that and would be more for looks than actual speed you can feel.

You'd almost certainly have better luck at the sub 6000 dollar range at putting better tires on and dropping the suspension a bit. I dont think you can do a trans tune on anything newer than a 2016 without sending the tcm in to be unlocked but if the shifting is as bad at very low speed partial throttle in the current years as they were in 2016, then that would probably be worth doing.

That's my suggestion. If you dont go the aftermarket intake route, at least get a drop-in gauze filter. It does flow more freely than paper and will be something you can feel (if you clean it when you're supposed to)

[Petrol Head]

Yep, these LT1s are pretty maxed out from the factory going naturally aspirated. It’s a testament to GM’s engineering. It’s also why the Z06 Corvette and ZL1 Camaro have a supercharger. If they could have gotten significant power gains out of the LT1 at the factory without forced induction they would have.

[LT4Greg]

cellsafemode, that’s what I put in my ZL1 a higher flow panel air filter from Summit Racing! It was their store brand and about $20.00 cheaper than the K&N filter! I’m considering a Roto-Fab for a future mod though!

[19 2SS]

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

if you need more power, and you really dont, the only way to make any significant amount more when you're already pushing 400+ is forced induction (if you're not already forced).

Well, FI and E85 are your best options at any meaningful increases in performance. Everything else is chasing single digit percents if that and would be more for looks than actual speed you can feel.

You'd almost certainly have better luck at the sub 6000 dollar range at putting better tires on and dropping the suspension a bit. I dont think you can do a trans tune on anything newer than a 2016 without sending the tcm in to be unlocked but if the shifting is as bad at very low speed partial throttle in the current years as they were in 2016, then that would probably be worth doing.

That's my suggestion. If you dont go the aftermarket intake route, at least get a drop-in gauze filter. It does flow more freely than paper and will be something you can feel (if you clean it when you're supposed to)

thanks for the feedback, would a cam install + e85 with nothing else done to the car be a dumb idea? obviously that would push over the $2500 but i might save up a bit more

[ssmofo]

I wouldn't do it for just a CAI, especially N/A, wait until cam or headers or blower, you won't gain much if anything with a CAI except sound. Been there dyno'd it.

[gmcvt]

I think if I were you, I would reach out to PRAY and see what he suggests for the dollar amount you have to spend. I think E85 is a great place to start. Its always good to have an experienced reputable tuner guide your modifications.

[L8Apex]

Originally Posted by Tricksta

you only need a tune for the CAI if its a "Big Gulp" standard roto fab does not need tuned.

You don't even need a CAI, it's basically a cosmetic mod until you have some power adders. Maybe look at headers, cam and a tune instead.

[geaux_tigerss]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

geaux_tigerss, those figures are for the V6 GM CAI not the one for the V8!

How do you know?

[Pro-2A]

Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Yep, these LT1s are pretty maxed out from the factory going naturally aspirated. It’s a testament to GM’s engineering. It’s also why the Z06 Corvette and ZL1 Camaro have a supercharger. If they could have gotten significant power gains out of the LT1 at the factory without forced induction they would have.

Absolutely correct. That's the case for pretty much all N/A engines these days, OEM has come a long way with factory tunes! If you want a quick, safe, relatively cheap 50-75 HP.......SPRAY IT!

[gmcvt]

Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Yep, these LT1s are pretty maxed out from the factory going naturally aspirated. It’s a testament to GM’s engineering. It’s also why the Z06 Corvette and ZL1 Camaro have a supercharger. If they could have gotten significant power gains out of the LT1 at the factory without forced induction they would have.

So, while I agree that these things are coming from the factory very strong, from what I have observed and read even on here, theres still a decent 60-90 rwhp left in them with appropriate mods. Even more pending how far you want to go.

I think the coyote's are more maxed out, when it comes to N/A bolt-ons, than the LT1 is.

[Petrol Head]

Originally Posted by Pro-2A

Absolutely correct. That's the case for pretty much all N/A engines these days, OEM has come a long way with factory tunes! If you want a quick, safe, relatively cheap 50-75 HP.......SPRAY IT!

[Petrol Head]

Originally Posted by gmcvt

So, while I agree that these things are coming from the factory very strong, from what I have observed and read even on here, theres still a decent 60-90 rwhp left in them with appropriate mods. Even more pending how far you want to go.

I think the coyote's are more maxed out, when it comes to N/A bolt-ons, than the LT1 is.

If you invest a lot you can get that kind of return, like your mods and stats in your signature for your 2010, but $400-600 for a simple cold air intake isn't going to do jack squat.

I really wouldn't even touch a CAI unless I was doing everything else you did. And even then, it's still really only for looks and sound. I'd be really curious what your dyno sheet says if you went back to the completely stock intake plenum, box, and factory air filter.

Truth be told, I only have dual mode exhaust because it's one of the options my car was built with and I liked everything else about the car. I wouldn't order it specifically because it doesn't improve performance.

[LT4Greg]

Geaux_tigerss, the thread was in the V6 LGX bolt ons section of the Forum! The Op had a V6 Camaro and installed a GM CAI and wanted some figures to compare with his.

[geaux_tigerss]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

geaux_tigerss, those figures are for the V6 GM CAI not the one for the V8!

I get all that. I just wonder because the link to the spreadsheet wasn't labeled one way or the other.

The "stock" numbers in the spreadsheet linked in that post match the numbers in my stock tune file for my SS. So either the V6 and SS have the same airflow table (pretty likely now that I think about it), or that table is from a V8 and just linked in the V6 forum.

I really just wonder what else changed in the tune if anything.