[shaffe]

To those tossing out a 100K price tag, you talking MSRP or you counting on ADM?

No chance the GT500 MSRP near 100K

[BlueSteel07]

Originally Posted by shaffe

To those tossing out a 100K price tag, you talking MSRP or you counting on ADM?

No chance the GT500 MSRP near 100K

I heard that it was going to start at $67k for the base model but who knows if that's accurate. As for ADM, many on the mustang forum have made deals at msrp with some at msrp +$5k so probably no where near $100k. I'm sure some dealers will mark them up that high or higher, but probably won't be the norm.

[Markoz28]

Originally Posted by shaffe

To those tossing out a 100K price tag, you talking MSRP or you counting on ADM?

No chance the GT500 MSRP near 100K

Well since the MSRP of the gt350R was 65k and the new gt500 is lights out over the top of that car, I’d say MSRP will be 90k for base and 100k for the full track package. Mark up will be 10-20k on top of even that. Of course I’m speculating but I’m saving this thread for the future to prove I’m either right or under the correct numbers.

Ford over priced these cars all day long. Even the 350R is over priced compared to the zl1 base model.

[MaskedRacerX]

Originally Posted by Markoz28

Well since the MSRP of the gt350R was 65k and the new gt500 is lights out over the top of that car, I’d say MSRP will be 90k for base and 100k for the full track package. Mark up will be 10-20k on top of even that. Of course I’m speculating but I’m saving this thread for the future to prove I’m either right or under the correct numbers.

Ford over priced these cars all day long. Even the 350R is over priced compared to the zl1 base model.

Can't really compare the R flavor to the base GT500 (the aforementioned has $8K worth of carbon fiber) and a slightly different cost basis.

I believe we're going to see the base GT500 for right at $70K (maybe +- $2K on either side), the Handling Package at +$3999 ( S/Wing, adjustable shocks, some additional aero), and the CF Track Package for +$11,995 (doesn't stack on the Handling Pack, it's one or the other).

ADM? It's going to be nuts, with about a car per participating dealer ... though a few folks have signed an MSRP or minor ADM (~$5K) deal.

[JB'sZL1]

Originally Posted by shaffe

To those tossing out a 100K price tag, you talking MSRP or you counting on ADM?

No chance the GT500 MSRP near 100K

Originally Posted by BlueSteel07

I heard that it was going to start at $67k for the base model but who knows if that's accurate. As for ADM, many on the mustang forum have made deals at msrp with some at msrp +$5k so probably no where near $100k. I'm sure some dealers will mark them up that high or higher, but probably won't be the norm.

Well, we'll see as we're all just hypothesizing for now (the past 5 years really). For the record, I'm stating otd, not pretax, not pre ADM, or pre anything else: OTD. But I'm willing to bet tomorrow's lunch I can count on one hand the # that will be sold for $67k in the first year. Simply because the R was $70 ish +, and the 500 is supposed to be oh, so much more.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Markoz28

Well since the MSRP of the gt350R was 65k and the new gt500 is lights out over the top of that car, I’d say MSRP will be 90k for base and 100k for the full track package. Mark up will be 10-20k on top of even that. Of course I’m speculating but I’m saving this thread for the future to prove I’m either right or under the correct numbers.

Ford over priced these cars all day long. Even the 350R is over priced compared to the zl1 base model.

Well to counter that, the 350R MSRP when released undercut the Z/28 by 12K. I think Ford knows where this car needs to fall in MSRP. They made that known in the press release when they said it's " A mustang and must be obtainable" or something along those lines.

Originally Posted by MaskedRacerX

Can't really compare the R flavor to the base GT500 (the aforementioned has $8K worth of carbon fiber) and a slightly different cost basis.

I believe we're going to see the base GT500 for right at $70K (maybe +- $2K on either side), the Handling Package at +$3999 ( S/Wing, adjustable shocks, some additional aero), and the CF Track Package for +$11,995 (doesn't stack on the Handling Pack, it's one or the other).

ADM? It's going to be nuts, with about a car per participating dealer ... though a few folks have signed an MSRP or minor ADM (~$5K) deal.

I think this is a pretty fair guess ^

Originally Posted by JB'sZL1

Well, we'll see as we're all just hypothesizing for now (the past 5 years really). For the record, I'm stating otd, not pretax, not pre ADM, or pre anything else: OTD. But I'm willing to bet tomorrow's lunch I can count on one hand the # that will be sold for $67k in the first year. Simply because the R was $70 ish +, and the 500 is supposed to be oh, so much more.

Fair enough

[Markoz28]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Well to counter that, the 350R MSRP when released undercut the Z/28 by 12K. I think Ford knows where this car needs to fall in MSRP. They made that known in the press release when they said it's " A mustang and must be obtainable" or something along those lines.



I think this is a pretty fair guess ^



Fair enough

I also think the Z28 was over priced as well. One sat in the show room floor local to me until late 2016 and sold for peanuts compared to the original asking price. I think the sticker was something in the 70s. I’d take my ZL1 over that car any day of the week. All I’m trying to say is some cars are just way over priced and have no reason for the amount commanded.

[Bow Tie Fanatic]

I wouldn’t underestimate the emphasis Ford is putting into the GT500 to be a track star (road course that is). When a buddy of mine and I were leaving VIR on 3/26 Ford had (5) 18 wheelers and about 15-20 staff arrive for a private “pre Lightining Lap” test. We actually had 2 GT500’s pull up beside us in the pit area. I hope the ZLE A10 will still prevail in a head-to-head comparison when it’s all said and done and really hope the Ford boys get their feelings hurt. We’ll see.

[Artos]

My guess the average ADM will be $15k-$20k for those who HAVE to own one coming out of the gates...2021 will be a lucky $5k ADM.

Only basing this on what most 350r dealers were doing at least in my area...for those handful who get lucky enough buying at sticker?? You got a good car & deserve a pat on the back for having connections & a rare Ford dealer with integrity. Still don't understand why so many more blue oval dealers do this compared to bowties??

[GrimReaperSS]

The other car to keep in comparison here as well is the HC Redeye (top of the line) with a base price of $71,695 (Widebody option adds $6k). I've seen some videos where the As Tested price was $91k, in the build & price I've already gotten one up to $95k (w/o every option but all the major ones). I wouldn't be surprised to see a base GT500 at a similar $70k-$74k, with the Carbon Track Package around $85K. I'm absolutely certain ADM will be astronomical!

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacerX

The new GT500 is being positioned as a highly dialed in track car, not a 1/4 mile car, the suspension isn't "drag strip oriented", the cooling setup, the brakes, the aero (especially the Carbon Fiber Track Package), that's __all__ attenuated to [road] track performance. Even the DCT is more dialed into track performance where fast up +and+ downshifts count towards road course effectiveness. You might also want to consider the peak RPM, the supercharger being utilized, to get sense of potential power output (my money is on somewhere right around 750HP).

To be clear, I'm not a buyer, I'm completely brand agnostic, in fact, my next ride will very likely be a ZL1 convertible, but I'd suggest you're not evaluating the correct performance goals of the GT500.

Maybe you're right, who knows, but the GT500 has never been a track car.

For the previous 2013 GT500, the Boss 302 was the track car and the GT500 was the monster & 1/4 mile car (I owned a 2013 GT500).

Historically and more recently the GT350 was the track car.
I believe this GT500 will attempt to be more track capable than the previous GT500s but at 4200lbs I don't believe the GT500 will be a great track car. I have no concerns about it being a better track car than my ZL1 1LE but it will likely be a better 1/4 mile car.

Just my guesses

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by GrimReaperSS

The other car to keep in comparison here as well is the HC Redeye (top of the line) with a base price of $71,695. I've seen some videos where the As Tested price was $91,xxx! I wouldn't be surprised to see a base GT500 at a similar $70k-$74k, with the Carbon Track Package around $85K. I'm absolutely certain ADM will be astronomical!

I pre-ordered my 2013 GT500 and paid MSRP for it.
When I finally took delivery, the dealership told me they would pay me 10k cash to back out of the deal HAHAHA! I almost took it.

ADM on Shelbys is pretty ridiculous! I got mine was fully loaded at MSRP of 72k. I recall mark up was typically 20k.

Same thing with the latest GT350R, if you could get one for MSRP I'd have bought one.

[GrimReaperSS]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Maybe you're right, who knows, but the GT500 has never been a track car.

Did you check out the video I posted further back? It was stated in there that the CF Track Package equipped one is designed to be an all out track star. They have been seen in the past bench marking the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE.
As far as the ADM's, I'm certain at minimum you will see all of that $20k from the GT350's and then some. Just nuts what the dealers will try to get away with and what people are willing to pay too!

[MaskedRacerX]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Maybe you're right, who knows, but the GT500 has never been a track car.

For the previous 2013 GT500, the Boss 302 was the track car and the GT500 was the monster & 1/4 mile car (I owned a 2013 GT500).

Historically and more recently the GT350 was the track car.
I believe this GT500 will attempt to be more track capable than the previous GT500s but at 4200lbs I don't believe the GT500 will be a great track car. I have no concerns about it being a better track car than my ZL1 1LE but it will likely be a better 1/4 mile car.

Just my guesses

It's a brave new world

Seriously though, Ford has totally rethought what it means to enter this market segment (super high performance domestics), and definitely targeted a new metric. Even that line in the video above about the base model being the "drag car", that's just lip service, there's no drag specific design (like the Demon or more recent Drag Pack from FCA), it's a drag car by way of being high output, having electronic launch/suspension modes and an incredible fast shifting transmission.

We're all sort of guessing at this point, though there are some channels with people ITK, speaking "off the record" that hinted at a few stats, and they're definitely not what's being discussed in this thread If they're correct, people are going to be floored by the track performance.