[LTwin86]

Originally Posted by yankee

Just curious: if GM knows they screwed up with 2019 design, wouldn't be easier and less expensive for them to go back to 2016-2018 design instead of patching the ugly bumper to make it more desirable than 2019 but still worse than 2016-2018?

They already have the equipment, right? Or the change is so radical (lines might not match, different fittings for the hood) that doing a refresh to a refresh is cheaper/easier?

You are right, 16-18 design required just a minor facelift. New matrix for new plastic items cost a lot, no way back, i think.

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by yankee

Just curious: if GM knows they screwed up with 2019 design, wouldn't be easier and less expensive for them to go back to 2016-2018 design instead of patching the ugly bumper to make it more desirable than 2019 but still worse than 2016-2018?

They already have the equipment, right? Or the change is so radical (lines might not match, different fittings for the hood) that doing a refresh to a refresh is cheaper/easier?

NOT EVERYONE HATES THE NEW DESIGN!!!

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by enzia35

So it’ll be even more confusing when someone says 1LT vs LT1.

I have the 1LT engine in my SS.

[lawguy85]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

NOT EVERYONE HATES THE NEW DESIGN!!!

"Chevy Fixed the Camaro SS's Face" - Road & Track
"The 2020 Chevrolet Camaro Is Less Ugly" - Car & Driver
"Chevy Fixes Camaro's Ugly Front End For 2020" - Carbuzz
"2020 Chevy Camaro SS gets emergency facelift" - Autoblog
"CHEVY HAS HEARD YOUR COLLECTIVE GAGGING, INTRODUCES FACE-LIFTED 2020 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS" - Motortrend
"2020 Camaro SS Gets Design Changes Following Negative Feedback" - GM Authority
"The 2020 Chevrolet Camaro SS Update Finally Fixes That Awful Nose Job" - The Drive

...most importantly...

"Customers spoke, and we listened" Steve Majoros, director of Chevrolet passenger car and crossover marketing

[RenegadeXR]

Originally Posted by yankee

Just curious: if GM knows they screwed up with 2019 design, wouldn't be easier and less expensive for them to go back to 2016-2018 design instead of patching the ugly bumper to make it more desirable than 2019 but still worse than 2016-2018?

They already have the equipment, right? Or the change is so radical (lines might not match, different fittings for the hood) that doing a refresh to a refresh is cheaper/easier?

Originally Posted by LTwin86

You are right, 16-18 design required just a minor facelift. New matrix for new plastic items cost a lot, no way back, i think.

Can't tell if this is serious or not.

Just some basic logistics involved:

- Retooling, including restoring old molds
- Production line changes
- Major electric component changes
- Reviving all equipment, materials, and suppliers needed to produce the 16-18 tail lamps

Logistics involved for the 2020 changes:

- Paint a black part a different color...

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by IOMike

The other picture of the LT1 clearly shows they are Brembo brakes.

So...is this supposed to be an LT1 powered 6 banger?? Makes no sense....Nuts.

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

So...is this supposed to be an LT1 powered 6 banger?? Makes no sense....Nuts.

No, it's an LT1 powered LT1. Makes sense to me.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by Baldilocks01SS

No, it's an LT1 powered LT1. Makes sense to me.

Why does it have a 4 or 6 banger grill?

[JhonnyGTR]

Originally Posted by samurai

I made some preview pictures how the 2020 Camaro will looks like in the build & price tool. I also reuploaded one of my fixed pics I made shortly after the announcment

Could You make a Rally Green version of all of this?

[Baldilocks01SS]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

Why does it have a 4 or 6 banger grill?

Read the press release.............

[SixgenSix]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

May sound peculiar but not every buyer wants a v8 when Gas is nearing $4. per gallon. My grandson just flat didn't want a v8 or an engine which requires premium fuel. He will be stoked with a 335hp v6 but that said, I hope they have the lowly 8spd trans figured out by the end of the month because that's when his gets built.
I do think the LT1 is a terrific move on Chevy's part. It will boost their sales numbers. If the economy stays on track for a while.

Nearing $4 a gallon. It's way past that now lol. The V6 is fantastic though and I've been running mine on regular with zero issues.

[LTwin86]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

NOT EVERYONE HATES THE NEW DESIGN!!!

Most of camaro fans i think...

[AlphaDream]

It's a mild improvement but in my view still not as great as the 2016 front end. Those wrap-around fender tabs which GM is so proud of are a total design failure.

I firmly believe the Camaro was ruined by GM's poor product planning and design. Coming from a GM family I'm looking to buy a Camaro and while it undoubtedly out-handles the Mustang and BMW 2 series the poor visibilty and what is in my view cheesy styling are real turn offs. When I look at a Mustang my heart skips a beat yet when I see new Camaro I feel only sadness at the ineptitude GM's decision-makers.

A 7th gen Camaro with sophisticated modern styling similar to the Avista could have been such a hit. Sadly, there will be no 7th gen Camaro - it was terminated late last year. I'm told it was going to look similar to the current Camaro and have just as bad visibility so as usual nobody at GM learned anything from its failure.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

That's the Efffing color I wanted when I got my 17' SS. I asked if they were making it and they said no!!! I settled for Black!!

LOL, You sound like me when I wanted Kripton Green and everyone told me the color will not get production approved, so I settled for HMB.

Eventually got a kripton green car though.

I felt something was up when Chevy Europe started parading the old Track Concept car around a month or so ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwuRcZbl...d=7h1q21pcbbs8

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwcCF5Al...=1s52k9vekt0zg