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Old 04-03-2019, 07:29 AM   #29
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I wonder if the vitesse throttle controller voids the warranty in any way.
I have one and has been to the dealer multiple times, just pop it out before I take it and no issues.
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:41 AM   #30
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On my 2016 SS M6 (always in Sport), there is absolutely a dead zone at the first 10ish% of throttle input. This usually does not bother me much because I know how far I need to press the pedal down to get a response.

My biggest complaint with this issue is the intermittent occurrence when I'm rolling in 1st gear at ~3 MPH at about 15% throttle, nothing is happening, then gradually applying more and more throttle and the engine just does nothing. Then all of a sudden it opens the throttle body and adds fuel and she's on the brink of spinning tires. This seems to happen when I'm very slowly rolling a right turn on red or a stop sign in 1st gear.

I've almost gotten rear-ended because I've already rolled into the intersection and I'm trying to accelerate and nothing happens for 3 seconds. Can't wait to tune this damn thing when the PT warranty expires.
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Old 04-03-2019, 03:28 PM   #31
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On my 2016 SS M6 (always in Sport), there is absolutely a dead zone at the first 10ish% of throttle input. This usually does not bother me much because I know how far I need to press the pedal down to get a response.

My biggest complaint with this issue is the intermittent occurrence when I'm rolling in 1st gear at ~3 MPH at about 15% throttle, nothing is happening, then gradually applying more and more throttle and the engine just does nothing. Then all of a sudden it opens the throttle body and adds fuel and she's on the brink of spinning tires. This seems to happen when I'm very slowly rolling a right turn on red or a stop sign in 1st gear.

I've almost gotten rear-ended because I've already rolled into the intersection and I'm trying to accelerate and nothing happens for 3 seconds. Can't wait to tune this damn thing when the PT warranty expires.
That is not normal behavior, at all. Take it to the dealer.
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Old 04-14-2019, 08:45 AM   #32
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That is not normal behavior, at all. Take it to the dealer.
No, it is normal. My m6 does the same.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:37 AM   #33
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I have the same thing, but I only experience it when going through turns. My theory is that, it is the traction control.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:40 AM   #34
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No, it is normal. My m6 does the same.
This is exactly how my 2016 SS M6 behaves. I've added the Vitesse, and while it does make it a bit better, it does still feel like a bandaid.
It's maddening to have such a nice car and to have this unnecessary issue
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:18 PM   #35
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Never happened to me in my previous SS M6, or my 2.0T M6. Never experienced a 10% dead spot in beginning of pedal travel. I still don't think this is normal.
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Old 04-30-2019, 03:10 AM   #36
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Turn off traction control, even better, turn off stabilitrack and you guys can have all the torque at once lol.
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Old 04-30-2019, 05:39 AM   #37
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So I think it a gm thing. I have a coworker that just bought a 2019 Silverado and it does the same thing. And gm has it governed to stop at 98 miles per hour. That sucks and the dealer is tying to figure it out. Or sates they are. Corporate trying to manage our lives
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Old 04-30-2019, 07:51 AM   #38
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It's mostly in the tune, plus the LT5 throttle body also helped a bit with mine.

Throttle response is just about perfect now, it has a not crazy twitchy, yet well defined and authoritative tip-in.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:47 PM   #39
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So I think it a gm thing. I have a coworker that just bought a 2019 Silverado and it does the same thing. And gm has it governed to stop at 98 miles per hour. That sucks and the dealer is tying to figure it out. Or sates they are. Corporate trying to manage our lives

Nothing to figure out here. GM SUVs, cars pickup trucks have all had Governors on them for well over 20 years The speed limit is determined by the speed rating of the tire that came on it from the factory. The dealership your friend is working with is either very stupid or they're just jerking his chain. Take your RS V6 Camaro for example it came with 168mph rated tires hence its governed to around 160mph. If you we're to have a 1LT V6 Camaro you would be limited to 118mph. Because that is the speed rating of the tires that come on a 1LT from the factory
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:48 PM   #40
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Guys who are having issues with throttle lag.....you need to install my ported TB

There are literally hundreds of positive reviews about this and how it eliminates or greatly reduces the lag and stumble your experiencing as well as improving overall throttle response, tip in throttle, and giving you a more linear throttle that's much more natural to drive and modulate.

There is a reason I offer a money back 30 day guarantee as you would have to be crazy to want to return it after looking at the difference (between stock and my ported unit) an experiencing it installed in your car. Adds 150 CFM as well so there are real performance advantages when upgrading. Boosted cars normally pick up 10 - 15 RWTQ and RWHP and N/A cars 6 - 10 but the reason to own this mod is all the improvements in the day to day driving part throttle operation.....the gains in peak power and torque are really just a welcomed perk!

This is one thread of many out there (and older thread chock full of dozens and dozens of independent feedback).....other threads on this forum or just do some Googling on the Net.....just type in Mamo ported TB

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...highlight=Mamo

Hope some of you find this helpful....you have nothing to lose and all to gain trying this must have mod....you will thank me for the "push" if you were on the fence (although there really isn't any valid reason not to upgrade).

I have spoken and typed at great lengths trying to explain to folks just how poorly the LT1/LT4 OEM TB is shaped in stock trim.....worst factory design TB ever installed on a performance car bar none (not surprising when you realize it was simply an inexpensive shelf item GM was already using on light trucks making half the power you guys are and this TB is soooo bad it should have never even have gotten the nod on that application).

If your interested in more of the science behind what Im doing with flow information and pictures etc. click on these thread I posted a long time ago as well....its very informative

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502504


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Old 05-05-2019, 05:45 AM   #41
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Guys who are having issues with throttle lag.....you need to install my ported TB

There are literally hundreds of positive reviews about this and how it eliminates or greatly reduces the lag and stumble your experiencing as well as improving overall throttle response, tip in throttle, and giving you a more linear throttle that's much more natural to drive and modulate.

There is a reason I offer a money back 30 day guarantee as you would have to be crazy to want to return it after looking at the difference (between stock and my ported unit) an experiencing it installed in your car. Adds 150 CFM as well so there are real performance advantages when upgrading. Boosted cars normally pick up 10 - 15 RWTQ and RWHP and N/A cars 6 - 10 but the reason to own this mod is all the improvements in the day to day driving part throttle operation.....the gains in peak power and torque are really just a welcomed perk!

This is one thread of many out there (and older thread chock full of dozens and dozens of independent feedback).....other threads on this forum or just do some Googling on the Net.....just type in Mamo ported TB

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...highlight=Mamo

Hope some of you find this helpful....you have nothing to lose and all to gain trying this must have mod....you will thank me for the "push" if you were on the fence (although there really isn't any valid reason not to upgrade).

I have spoken and typed at great lengths trying to explain to folks just how poorly the LT1/LT4 OEM TB is shaped in stock trim.....worst factory design TB ever installed on a performance car bar none (not surprising when you realize it was simply an inexpensive shelf item GM was already using on light trucks making half the power you guys are and this TB is soooo bad it should have never even have gotten the nod on that application).

If your interested in more of the science behind what Im doing with flow information and pictures etc. click on these thread I posted a long time ago as well....its very informative

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502504


Regards,
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And your are how much with core.. so if you know the platform, then you know that prior to the 6th gen the gas pedal was not attached to the floor and was a suspended one. Yes I know there all fly by wire. So when I purchased my 2017 V6 stepping on the pedal required more downward force that the 5th gen. It just odd, I don't know why GM did this but its there. I currently still have my 5th gen and I can feel the difference, (its not just in my head) so that my real issue. I have had the car to the dealer and they tested the pedal and it works as gm designed. I have a ported TB in the 5th as well...
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:37 AM   #42
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And your are how much with core.. so if you know the platform, then you know that prior to the 6th gen the gas pedal was not attached to the floor and was a suspended one. Yes I know there all fly by wire. So when I purchased my 2017 V6 stepping on the pedal required more downward force that the 5th gen. It just odd, I don't know why GM did this but its there. I currently still have my 5th gen and I can feel the difference, (its not just in my head) so that my real issue. I have had the car to the dealer and they tested the pedal and it works as gm designed. I have a ported TB in the 5th as well...
My price is an outright purchase....no core.....you keep your OEM TB and I send you a brand new one. Much cleaner transaction.....you have your stock one for major engine warranty work should you ever want to convert back to stock.

Plus in the event the TB I send you has any type of issues, I can easily swap it out for another new unit. Its just a much smoother deal selling new outright and the TB is inexpensive which makes this approach even more of a no brainer.

Call or email me if you would like to discuss this further. You seem in tune with this issue and the more you are the more you will appreciate the benefits of the ported TB I provide.

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