[LT4Greg]

If I were you I would look around for a used 6gen SS. I too had a 5th gen 2010 SS that was modded that I miss sometimes but wouldn’t want to go back to one. That LS3 and 6 speed was a real good match for the gen5 but I really like the LT1 in my SS. Also IMO the 6gen is a much better Camaro than the gen5 with the newer technology and redesign. In the past I had 2 3rd gens, a 4th gen and a gen5 and I personally think it’s the best Camaro I have owned since buying my first Z28 Camaro back in 1982.

[Camaro 79]

Originally Posted by Camaro #5

Why did it blow the Mustang out of the water, out of curiosity?

The 6th gen does everything the Mustang did, but better. The chassis is better, the steering is more direct, it handles better, has a better interior and comes with more options. The transmission and shifter is significantly better and feels much tighter. The LT1 is a better v8 than the 5.0 Coyote as well.

Exterior looks are about equal, for different reasons.

Also, as I say all of that, I believe the s550 mustang blew my 2015 Camaro SS out of the water as well. So for me, I had to have a v-8. In your situation I would move like this -

6th Gen SS >> S550 Mustang >>> 5th Gen SS

[Camaro #5]

Originally Posted by KirkH

I got a 2016 2SS manual for $27,000.

Whoa. Have definitely not seen prices like that around here, but I'll keep looking. Again, though, I don't want a manual, so to avoid the A8, I would have to get a 2019 SS, and that's not in my price range yet.

[Camaro #5]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

No warranty for the shuddering or are you just bored with what you've got?

I think you will eventually regret going from a 6gen to a 5gen, even if ss.
It's subjective and all but I found the 2SS overrated in the 6gen. The stereo inst much of an upgrade, the leather seats are meh compared to the cloth, HUD was pretty cool but the other stuff is "gimmicky" imo... Premium in the GT IS worth it however. I don't know your budget but I'd go with a per-owned 6gen 1SS if I was in your situation. You will also get the rev matching in the 6gen m6 which is awesome.

So yeah, I'm fine on the warranty right now, so I could theoretically keep going back to get the fix. The problem is, they haven't found a real fix yet (or maybe just don't care to pay out the full amount for a proper fix) so it's a matter of having to keep going back to get a "band-aid". They supposedly have a new fix now, but it doesn't seem promising. It's a pretty common issue among 6th gen A8 owners and everyone with the problem has been through the ringer with their dealers. If the fix works out, great. I really love my car otherwise and am not bored with it at all.

As far as the 1SS vs. 2SS, I can live without most of that stuff except heated seats. I LOVE heated seats and use them constantly. The problem is, it's a daily driver with a lot of stop and go traffic and a long commute and I don't want a manual.



Regardless, everyone's thoughts on the 5th gen are interesting and insightful. It's definitely sounding like I wouldn't be happy going to one.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Camaro 79

The 6th gen does everything the Mustang did, but better. The chassis is better, the steering is more direct, it handles better, has a better interior and comes with more options. The transmission and shifter is significantly better and feels much tighter. The LT1 is a better v8 than the 5.0 Coyote as well.

Exterior looks are about equal, for different reasons.

Also, as I say all of that, I believe the s550 mustang blew my 2015 Camaro SS out of the water as well. So for me, I had to have a v-8. In your situation I would move like this -

6th Gen SS >> S550 Mustang >>> 5th Gen SS

The LT1 might be a tad better than the Gen 2 Coyote (subjective of course), but the Gen 3 Coyote in the 18/19 GT is phenomenal. 460 hp and underrated -many upgrades compared to the Gen 2, it reads like a modders dream (more displacement, higher compression ratio, larger valves, higher redline, higher flowing intake and heads, improved cams, direct+port fuel injection). They rate it at 25 more hp than Gen 2, but it is more like 35-45 additional hp. Not to mention the coyote uses a forged crank. Ford also made a lot of updates to the refreshed '18 Mustang GT in addition to the engine changes. A10 tranny turns it into an 11 second car (11.8-11.9s @ 118-120 mph) bone stock, and many safety electronic bells and whistles, MagneRide as an option, updated styling and looks, slightly improved interior, and amazing exhaust sound. The '18s are so good that it converted this lifelong Chevy guy.

To the original poster: consider a used 2018 GT Premium with the performance package 1. Great, fast car, esp with the A10 transaction and Magneride. I can't say enough about it, honestly. Not to mention, imo it looks 100X better than the 6th Gen SS.

[Camaro #5]

Originally Posted by 7speed

This right here, you have 5yr/100k warranty on mechanical so why rush the decision.

I'm not rushing. I don't plan on changing anytime soon, actually. Just weighing my options if it were to come to that. In fact, I may just ride it out until the warranty expires and maybe a used 2019 2SS will be more affordable by then.

I'm even considering getting an extended warranty and riding that one out too.

[IOMCamaroSS]

Originally Posted by CamaroChriSS

if you really like the creature comforts of your 6th gen you won't like the 5th gen. I never owned a 5th gen, but I did have a 4th gen Z28 for 8 years and never upgraded to the 5th because it honestly felt no better on the inside that my car - it looked different, but same quality. The 6th gen finally felt like a leap forward.

What? The interior of the 5th gen SS is nothing special, especially compared to a lot of cars now, but it is light years ahead of any 4th gen. The seats are comfortable, nothing like the covered lawn chairs in the 4th gens. Way more spacious as well. I have the inferno orange interior, so I LOVE mine. But the typical SS interior is pretty bland. You can buy all those pieces after market and customize it to your liking though.

Never owned a 6th gen, but have sat in a few and the interior is my favorite part of the car, no doubt. Feels like you're in a sports car and has better materials, technology, etc. as it should obviously... But the 5th gen makes for a very comfortable cruiser.

[Camaro #5]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

The LT1 might be a tad better than the Gen 2 Coyote (subjective of course), but the Gen 3 Coyote in the 18/19 GT is phenomenal. 460 hp and underrated -many upgrades compared to the Gen 2, it reads like a modders dream (more displacement, higher compression ratio, larger valves, higher redline, higher flowing intake and heads, improved cams, direct+port fuel injection). They rate it at 25 more hp than Gen 2, but it is more like 35-45 additional hp. Not to mention the coyote uses a forged crank. Ford also made a lot of updates to the refreshed '18 Mustang GT in addition to the engine changes. A10 tranny turns it into an 11 second car (11.8-11.9s @ 118-120 mph) bone stock, and many safety electronic bells and whistles, MagneRide as an option, updated styling and looks, slightly improved interior, and amazing exhaust sound. The '18s are so good that it converted this lifelong Chevy guy.

To the original poster: consider a used 2018 GT Premium with the performance package 1. Great, fast car, esp with the A10 transaction and Magneride. I can't say enough about it, honestly. Not to mention, imo it looks 100X better than the 6th Gen SS.

Thank you for the insight. I'm definitely considering them. Not a lot of used GT Premiums in the area in my price range, but I've been continuing to look for them.

[Camaro #5]

Originally Posted by IOMCamaroSS

What? The interior of the 5th gen SS is nothing special, especially compared to a lot of cars now, but it is light years ahead of any 4th gen. The seats are comfortable, nothing like the covered lawn chairs in the 4th gens. Way more spacious as well. I have the inferno orange interior, so I LOVE mine. But the typical SS interior is pretty bland. You can buy all those pieces after market and customize it to your liking though.

Never owned a 6th gen, but have sat in a few and the interior is my favorite part of the car, no doubt. Feels like you're in a sports car and has better materials, technology, etc. as it should obviously... But the 5th gen makes for a very comfortable cruiser.

Covered lawn chairs! That's pretty much dead on. GOD I hated the seats in those cars. If there was only one thing I could change on 4th gens, that would be it.

Thank you for the 5th gen perspective as well.

[CamaroChriSS]

Originally Posted by IOMCamaroSS

What? The interior of the 5th gen SS is nothing special, especially compared to a lot of cars now, but it is light years ahead of any 4th gen. The seats are comfortable, nothing like the covered lawn chairs in the 4th gens. Way more spacious as well. I have the inferno orange interior, so I LOVE mine. But the typical SS interior is pretty bland. You can buy all those pieces after market and customize it to your liking though.

Never owned a 6th gen, but have sat in a few and the interior is my favorite part of the car, no doubt. Feels like you're in a sports car and has better materials, technology, etc. as it should obviously... But the 5th gen makes for a very comfortable cruiser.

It's definitely more of an subjective thing, so I'm sure people will disagree with me on this. I just felt like the 5th seemed like "if we built the 4th gen today, what would it look like", whereas the 6th gen seems like it was designed from the ground up to be modern.

Definitely more spacious in the 5th over the 4th, and even the 6th. Just didn't feel like 12 years had passed between the 97 interior update to the 5th gen.

BTW, inferno orange is the best color on a Camaro in decades - very jealous of that!

[Laststandard]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

The LT1 might be a tad better than the Gen 2 Coyote (subjective of course), but the Gen 3 Coyote in the 18/19 GT is phenomenal. 460 hp and underrated -many upgrades compared to the Gen 2, it reads like a modders dream (more displacement, higher compression ratio, larger valves, higher redline, higher flowing intake and heads, improved cams, direct+port fuel injection). They rate it at 25 more hp than Gen 2, but it is more like 35-45 additional hp. Not to mention the coyote uses a forged crank. Ford also made a lot of updates to the refreshed '18 Mustang GT in addition to the engine changes. A10 tranny turns it into an 11 second car (11.8-11.9s @ 118-120 mph) bone stock, and many safety electronic bells and whistles, MagneRide as an option, updated styling and looks, slightly improved interior, and amazing exhaust sound. The '18s are so good that it converted this lifelong Chevy guy.

To the original poster: consider a used 2018 GT Premium with the performance package 1. Great, fast car, esp with the A10 transaction and Magneride. I can't say enough about it, honestly. Not to mention, imo it looks 100X better than the 6th Gen SS.

They also threw in piston slap free of charge!

The gen 3 coyote is nice but it sure seems like a fragile engine..

[Subcool]

I’ve owned a couple 5th gens and 6th gens. I must say I really liked my 5th gen it felt very roomy inside and sounded great. I love the 6th gen also they are both great cars. Maybe you should look into a used 5th gen zl1.

[CrazyCatGuy]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

They also threw in piston slap free of charge!

The gen 3 coyote is nice but it sure seems like a fragile engine..

Real talk.

My co-worker bought his 2019 GT a day or two after I got my SS and when he came to show me, it sounded fine. He came back a couple of weeks later to show me how his car sounded with the suitcase removed and damn... I've never heard such loud obnoxious RPM dependent ticking/slapping form such a new engine. I am glad that this issue showed up before I pulled the trigger on a GT, because I was about to. Even with the MT82 issues and the abhorrent diff clunking, I was still going to bite, but read about the engine issues with the cylinder wall coating and seeing people having their engines replaced and decided NOPE. Immediately went to Chevy and bought my 1LE.

OP, good luck on your decision. I really encourage you to wait until you can afford a 2019 with the A10 if a 6-speed is out of the question. It seems this is what you really want, but just can't afford it quite yet.

[activepat]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

The LT1 might be a tad better than the Gen 2 Coyote (subjective of course), but the Gen 3 Coyote in the 18/19 GT is phenomenal. 460 hp and underrated -many upgrades compared to the Gen 2, it reads like a modders dream (more displacement, higher compression ratio, larger valves, higher redline, higher flowing intake and heads, improved cams, direct+port fuel injection). They rate it at 25 more hp than Gen 2, but it is more like 35-45 additional hp. Not to mention the coyote uses a forged crank. Ford also made a lot of updates to the refreshed '18 Mustang GT in addition to the engine changes. A10 tranny turns it into an 11 second car (11.8-11.9s @ 118-120 mph) bone stock, and many safety electronic bells and whistles, MagneRide as an option, updated styling and looks, slightly improved interior, and amazing exhaust sound. The '18s are so good that it converted this lifelong Chevy guy.

To the original poster: consider a used 2018 GT Premium with the performance package 1. Great, fast car, esp with the A10 transaction and Magneride. I can't say enough about it, honestly. Not to mention, imo it looks 100X better than the 6th Gen SS.

Yeah. I agree. Just plan on running around in 3rd gear all the time because it is ballless less than 3000 rpms.