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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

And we're starting to see where all Z06 vs ZL1 discussions go - to practicality, price, interior size, and other details. So, it REALLY depends on what you are looking for or what you need out of a car. There's circumstances that make total sense for one and no sense for the other and vice versa. If you want the best performance and can fit in the Z06, IMO it's a no brainer if you have the coin. There's literally a SLEW of reasons you might want one over the other. Everybody's different. Before I try to preemptively list a bunch of them and still miss some, it's best to ask about specific areas. Me personally, I care a lot about looks and performance - so I will tend to give most things pertaining to those factors. Others care about comfort, interior space, visibility and ride height - putting performance on the back burner.



What? All Z06s have magnetic ride. Z07s have a different settings and shocks. That's it. On base Stingrays where the Mag Ride is optional, the ride is absolutely fine at the worst.

Yes, the Z06 is a tighter fit. Probably 80%-90% of buyers out there would fit though.

I have zero proof that the Z06 will give you a sweaty eyebrow. As I said, I've pushed 3 different Z06s on a road course and never thought it was a handful. I've spoken with tons of owners, driving instructors, driving schools/experiences, and many forum posts from track rats that all agree with me. I'm used to cars with this kind of power on the road course and used to race open wheel race cars. I by no means have as much experience as Randy and I'm not calling him a liar. It could have been the press car they had or perhaps updates since then have changed things or maybe it's only found when it's pushed WAY past what 99%+ of owners would be capable of. Certainly wouldn't be found by you or I.

Put it to you this way, my Z06 was just as solid on the track as a GT3 and a 458 that I drove on the same day. Obviously, both those cars are engineered better and have definite upgrades in certain areas, but I never felt anymore scared in the Z06 than I did in the GT3 and that says something.

No they do not. Do your DD & look into it. You know what they say about assumptions? Magnetic ride is not standard on ZO6

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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

And we're starting to see where all Z06 vs ZL1 discussions go - to practicality, price, interior size, and other details. So, it REALLY depends on what you are looking for or what you need out of a car. There's circumstances that make total sense for one and no sense for the other and vice versa. If you want the best performance and can fit in the Z06, IMO it's a no brainer if you have the coin. There's literally a SLEW of reasons you might want one over the other. Everybody's different. Before I try to preemptively list a bunch of them and still miss some, it's best to ask about specific areas. Me personally, I care a lot about looks and performance - so I will tend to give most things pertaining to those factors. Others care about comfort, interior space, visibility and ride height - putting performance on the back burner.



What? All Z06s have magnetic ride. Z07s have a different settings and shocks. That's it. On base Stingrays where the Mag Ride is optional, the ride is absolutely fine at the worst.

Yes, the Z06 is a tighter fit. Probably 80%-90% of buyers out there would fit though.

I have zero proof that the Z06 will give you a sweaty eyebrow. As I said, I've pushed 3 different Z06s on a road course and never thought it was a handful. I've spoken with tons of owners, driving instructors, driving schools/experiences, and many forum posts from track rats that all agree with me. I'm used to cars with this kind of power on the road course and used to race open wheel race cars. I by no means have as much experience as Randy and I'm not calling him a liar. It could have been the press car they had or perhaps updates since then have changed things or maybe it's only found when it's pushed WAY past what 99%+ of owners would be capable of. Certainly wouldn't be found by you or I.

Put it to you this way, my Z06 was just as solid on the track as a GT3 and a 458 that I drove on the same day. Obviously, both those cars are engineered better and have definite upgrades in certain areas, but I never felt anymore scared in the Z06 than I did in the GT3 and that says something.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by hashtag

No they do not. Do your DD & look into it. You know what they say about assumptions? Magnetic ride is not standard on ZO6

Every Z06 has magnetic ride. Just google it.

Inside the Z07 package:
The Z07 Performance Package features unique suspension tuning and massive Brembo® 15.5"/15.3" carbon ceramic brake rotors. Michelin® Pilot® Sport Cup 2 ZP summer-only tires† push the limits of grip and handling, while an adjustable transparent wickerbill takes aerodynamics even further.

If your DD is that screenshot above then you haven't done enough...I service hundreds of these things a year. Regular Z06 has FE6 and Z07 has FE7 which is merely different shock and tuning.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by hashtag

No they do not. Do your DD & look into it. You know what they say about assumptions? Magnetic ride is not standard on ZO6

"There's been a fair amount of speculation on the suspension differences between a Z07 equipped car and a regular Z06 but so far I haven't seen anyone publish the details.

I reached out to a friend of mine and was able to get the details directly from the chief suspension engineer for the Corvette. As we already know the suspension on Z07 optioned cars (FE7) is stiffer than that on non-Z07 (FE6) cars. Specifically the springs, shocks, MR calibration, and stabilizer bar bushings are different from FE7 to FE6.

The front spring is 62% higher rate on the FE7 than the FE6.
The rear spring is 22% higher rate on the FE7 than the FE6.

The different stabilizer bar bushing tuning helps get the car the appropriate understeer level.

The MR shocks on the FE7 have a tighter gap which means a higher “passive” curve in addition to a more aggressive MR damping tuning."

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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

"There's been a fair amount of speculation on the suspension differences between a Z07 equipped car and a regular Z06 but so far I haven't seen anyone publish the details.

I reached out to a friend of mine and was able to get the details directly from the chief suspension engineer for the Corvette. As we already know the suspension on Z07 optioned cars (FE7) is stiffer than that on non-Z07 (FE6) cars. Specifically the springs, shocks, MR calibration, and stabilizer bar bushings are different from FE7 to FE6.

The front spring is 62% higher rate on the FE7 than the FE6.
The rear spring is 22% higher rate on the FE7 than the FE6.

The different stabilizer bar bushing tuning helps get the car the appropriate understeer level.

The MR shocks on the FE7 have a tighter gap which means a higher “passive” curve in addition to a more aggressive MR damping tuning."

Does the Corvette include the meatball Adidas tracksuit with the Gold chain? I am kidding. I will be leasing a ZR1 in a few weeks.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by hashtag

Does the Corvette include the meatball Adidas tracksuit with the Gold chain? I am kidding. I will be leasing a ZR1 in a few weeks.

I can’t tell if you have a drinking problem or a drug problem...

[shootamc58]

i had two 16 zo6's. Convertible and coupe. I like my 18 zl1 1le better. It is bigger and more comfortable. I think it looks better, and with tracking it, no overheating issues. I track quite a bit too, so that was important. Also, the difference in money allowed for quite a few upgrades as well. Either way, you won't be unhappy, but i'd drive both back to back and decide for yourself. Also, doing it over, If i would have bought a grandsport first, I may have never bought a camaro. I've heard its great and at that price point, you could do several upgrades and still be less than a zo6. Just my two cents.

[Midlifejohnny]

Great feedback.. really good to get insight from people who actually have owned the competition. I understand I’m posing the question on a Camaro forum vs a Corvette forum so I expected some favorable Camaro comments.
I guess if they were similarly priced Z06 would be the choice but considering you can get a 2019 for less then 60k.. hmmm. Thanks again.

[2018 ZL1]

I traded my 2016 2LZ A8 Z06 fully loaded with a sticker of $99950 for a 2018 A10 ZL1 fully loaded with a sticker of $69850 in June. The Z06 was my 4th Corvette. The following are my opinions and mine only...

Interior-I am 604/235 with an athletic build, I am not fat nor am I Arrrrnold. I have considerable more room in the ZL1 than I did in the Z06. I have a solid 6 inches more leg room and I have to move the seat forward a little to be comfortable. Head room is about the same but I have a sunroof, without if might be a little better. The Recaro seats fit me much better than the Comp seats in the Vet. They have better side support without being too tight. The only negative to the seats are no lumbar adjustment. The rest of the interior is really nice with a combo of leather and alcantara, however, side by side the Vet has the nicer interior. The back seats are useless for anything other than a very small child or purse or gym bag. I do really like having a real trunk.

Powertrain-The A10 is hands down better than the A8. The extra gears keep you in the power band better. The manual shifting is faster and crisper. The transmission is more smooth than the A8. I was skeptical before the test drive, but the A10 is a better unit. The engine is exactly the same and feels exactly as it does in the Vet.

Suspension-It is the same magnetic ride as in the Vet. Due to the increased weight and height, the ZL1 doesn't corner quite as sharply as the Vet, but makes up for it in ride and noise. It is considerably quieter in the interior than the Vet and the ride is not as harsh, even after having the Vet suspension update. You still have all the computer nannies, ice, sport, tour, and 5 PTM selections in race mode as well as launch control and line lock. It is exactly the same as in the Vet but the buttons and switches to get there are not quite as polished.

Exterior-This is subjective. I always thought the Vet looked angry, the ZL1 looks pissed off. There are so many styling cues in common with the Vet, I still see it every time I look at the ZL1.

Other stuff-I don't worry as much taking the ZL1 out for dinner or in for service. I was always worried about the front carbon fiber splitter on the Vet, about $1500 to replace. The front splitter on the ZL1 is about $135, which is good because it doesn't have front cameras. The HUD is good but doesn't show as many functions as the Vet. Visibility is no worse in the ZL1 than it was in the Vet. However, the ZL1 does have blind spot detection.

Would I do it again? Absolutely, I love the ZL1 and have no regrets. The ZL1 is 90% of the Vet for 60% of the cost. When the C8 comes out, I may trade again, but until then I am very happy with the ZL1.

[Fredtp]

I agree with you 100%.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by hashtag

No they do not. Do your DD & look into it. You know what they say about assumptions? Magnetic ride is not standard on ZO6

You cannot buy a Z06 without Magnetic Ride Control.

Z07 take the same car and adjusts the sways, springs, tires, brakes and aero but still has Magnetic Ride Control.

[Ranch41]

I currently have both a 2011 Z06 Carbon and a 2018 ZL1. Both have mrc and I can’t tell the difference between the settings. Each car has their pluses and use. IMO both are great cars and will put a smile on your face regardless. However, the ZL1 appears to weight more and is slightly less nimble.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

Originally Posted by Ranch41

I currently have both a 2011 Z06 Carbon and a 2018 ZL1. Both have mrc and I can’t tell the difference between the settings. Each car has their pluses and use. IMO both are great cars and will put a smile on your face regardless. However, the ZL1 appears to weight more and is slightly less nimble.

The LS7 C6 Z06 is night and day to a LT4 C7 Z06 which is much more akin to an LS9 C6 ZR1. This thread is comparing the LT4 C7 Z06 to the LT4 G6 ZL1. Not flaming, just heads up. I also have a LS7 427 Corvette and they're great cars. Noticeably lighter than both the C7Z and ZL1. The LS7's sound and characteristics are spectacular.

[Charlesk]

I owned the Z06 for 3 years. I am much happier with the ZL1. I find it much more comfortable and stable. The difference in speed is is not noticable to me. I did find the Z06 more twitchy and feel more confident in the ZL1. Both are manual trans, I actually like the 6 speed better. I dont regret the trade. Just my opinion.