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Drives: 2017 Camaro Fifty SS Convertible Join Date: Mar 2017
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When I was "shopping" for my car I had 2 primary criteria. V8 and convertible. Pretty much everything else was negotiable. I hadn't given much thought to actually tracking the car. More on that later. So that pretty much narrowed it down to SS Vert, ZL1 Vert (there is no 1LE Vert) or some trim level of Corvette Vert. I really liked the look, feel, and value of the 1LE, but no convertible option took it off the list. That, and I really had no plans to track the car. But still, a VERY attractive package. Saw the Fifty package and it was pretty much game over. Got that. Wound up tracking it. Even so, I do not find myself wishing that I had gotten the ZL1 Vert instead of the SS Fifty Vert. 98% of my time in the car is spent NOT tracking it. When I do track it I have a ton of fun. In good weather I daily drive it. No, I can't claim trophies on the track or the strip, primarily because of my own limitations. I am sure I have not yet wrung out the full limitations of this car. For me, a ZL1 would have just been more headroom between my own limitations as a driver and the car's limitations as a track beast. So no ZL1 envy, no Grand Sport envy, no Z06 envy. If anything, I might have a twinge of 1LE envy, but more for the wheels/tires/Recaros/hood wrap than anything else.
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A8 | MRC | NPP | Nav | HUD | GM Performance CAI | Tony Mamo LT1 V2 Ported TB | Kooks 1-7/8” LT Headers | FlexFuel Tune | Thinkware Q800 Pro front and rear dash cam | Charcoal Tint for Taillights and 3rd Brakelight | Orange and Carbon Fiber Bowties | 1LE Wheels in Gunmetal Gray | Carbon Fiber Interior Overlays | Novistretch bra and mirror covers | Tow hitch for bicycle rack | |
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I don't have ZL1 envy... ZL1 1LE envy yes.. I have to admit, the additional power would be nice on track. On the street, I don't even use the SS to it's potential. No where close to it. I don't DD the Camaro, but do have 5,800 miles or so on it in 8 months. Not a lot, but.... As for whether you should track the car or not, go to an event and ride in some Camaros. Most owners don't mind taking passengers in an HPDE. Heck, if you make it to Sebring this weekend come find me. (disclosure: Chin Track days does charge $20 for a rider wristband but you can ride with anyone willing to take out passengers)
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HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
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Autonation would only consider letting me test driver one if I went through the financial paperwork first. I get it if I'm young, or drive up in a POS, but I drove up in my Focus RS and I'm not young.. that level of BS made me walk. Worked out though, waited for a 2SS 1LE and had zero issues getting a test drive in that.
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HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
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Location: Phx. Az.
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I upgraded from a 11 SS to a 13 1LE as my DD. I do live in AZ so, I was able to do this. No intention to ever track the car but, i have taken it up 89A to and from Jerome a couple of times and it's a blast. I'd like to upgrade to a 6th gen but i might need to wait till i come across a slightly used 1LE
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2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. |
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Test drove a 2019 miata mx5 in wesley chapel for like 30 minutes with a passenger and no salesman!
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2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar.
2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights. |
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I test drove a 1LE today from Stonebriar Chevrolet in Frisco. I was really impressed. I had imagined a much harsher ride.
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Location: PA
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I have owned a '16 M6 2SS with MRC and NPP and now in a ZL1 A10. If you do not plan to track the 1LE I would not buy one. While it is a track monster it might be a little too track as a daily. It is heavier than the standard SS and tires will crack in very cold temps. Still I think it can work for you. It is just you will be wasting $$. Every standard SS is a world class handling car and is a better street track compromise. The 1LE will of course handle better @ 9/10ths and has better brake feel. Will you do 9/10s on the street? I hope not. The 1LE diff also will let you jump off track curbing at high speeds. But you add 40 pounds to the diff to get that. Does that make sense on the street? The standard SS has all the same 1LE track cooling and optional brake ducts, so if you decide on a fun track day, it will not let you down. It is a huge blast, but get the insurance. My friend flipped my 5th gen TT 1LE shiny side down at the track. He was fine but it cost me. All that being said the ZL1 is a iron fist in a velvet glove. It has all the same suspension goodies as the SS 1LE, but here if you ever decide to track the car you want this stuff with all the speed it can generate. The ZL1 1LE is really for extreme trackers and definitely not a good daily. The standard ZL1 is a beast when you feel like being bad, but the rest of the time is just a blast to drive. It also is a great long distance car. I drove mine this fall 2,500 miles in 5 days and the trip was a pleasure. It makes great noise and the occasional supercharger whine reminds you of what you spent your money on. I also will add that the A10 converted me from all of my years of buying manual performance cars. It adds a new dimension to driving a fast car. It has a little whine of its own as it is very beefed up for ZL1 duty. And bad boy performance mode is there at a tap of the loud pedal. I can' think of any other car I would rather drive at any price. You might have greater status, but not more fun driving. Don't drive a ZL1 (if any dealer lets you) unless you can afford to buy one.
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Drives: '14 Jetta 1.8, '19 1SS Join Date: Mar 2010
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The tires are a fair point, but there are options to fix that.
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HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
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Drives: 6 on the Flo' Super Sport Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: md
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I just got mine as a DD. Been DDing for almost 2 years now. Had a 5th gen Gen also I DD'd for almost 6 years. Both been sticks which was a must. Had no desire for a 1LE since no Track plans. Just gimme the HP and Tq for street and I'm happy.
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