[yankee]

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Good Morning. I was in the same boat my Friend. Debating and test driving the turbo 4 camaros, V6 even the SS. But let me tell you, GM did it right for specs, handling and price. I had a supercharged 07 cobalt ss and traded it in for a turbocharged camaro and haven't looked back for as lil as $21k. I didn't like the gas guzzling v6, and couldn't afford the SS. Plus insurance on them things, sheesh. Good luck. And my wife an insurance agent. But you can't beat these new muscle car turbos. Mustangs are doing it right. They honestly just dropped their V6 trim this year to focus more on the turbo Mustang since its...literally lighter, faster and better on gas. My wittle ol' 2017 50th Anniversary Camaro 4 Banger turbo is 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds. And does a quarter mile in 14 flat. That's incredibly fast for today's spectations coming from a 2 Liter engine. You couldn't get those numbers unless you threw a huge V8 underneath the hood or a Big V6 with a decent sized turbo back in the day. And dont get me started with daily driving them gas hogs. Maybe get 13mpg on average....MAYBE. While my turbo4 averages 28mpg. It's crazy today with engineering, electronic's and practicality in Fuel economy. Let me just tell you the Turbocharged Camaro wont dissapoint. Handling is more then impressive. Drives like a Cadillac. Literally. This camaro shares the same chasis as in the cadillac ats platform. Wow. Now that's the camaro shedding some serious heavy unnecessary weight meaning....faster. And with a couple bolt-on's and a tune, the V6 will be seeing nothing but your tail lights in your dust and quite possibly even the V8 SS. It's fast, let me tell you. Its Corvette fast. That's Subaru WRX. Its Dodge Challenger Fast. If you want to talk about numbers. What this lil 2 Liter Turbo can do and is pushing is more then impressive. To reach those track/speed numbers not that far...far...long ago. In early 90's you would need a 4.3L V6 w/ a turbo like in the GMC Syclone (SportTruck)to just reach a tie in a quarter mile or 0to60. Or even a V8 small block in the early 90s corvettes, that's right, a Corvette, to beat the turbo camaro. Therefore, i saw the 2.0t and fell in love with the specs, weight, exterior,interior,gas mpg and handling. Interior wise you get all great things the V6 RS owners get and even SS Camaro owners. Such as a standard touch screen, backup camera, great seats, same exterior cuts, cosmetically all trims are identical inside and out except for ss and zl1. I Always did love the spool/whoosh sound coming from a turbo too esspecially after a cold air intake bolt on installed with a little increase in Performance/Sound. I've owned my for a few months now and get 28mpg average. Pushing almost 300hp and God knows what with the torque involved(possibly high 350) with a couple bolt-ons and a zzp tune. This lil camaro is scary light/quick. I wouldn't be surprised if GM did same as Ford and drop the V6 all together to focus more on the quick, fuel sipping turbos 4 camaros.

Very good description, what I wanted.
Thank you sir!

[Papa Smurf]

Originally Posted by yankee

Very good description, what I wanted.
Thank you sir!

Not a problem brother. Just get whatever trim makes you happy financially and longternally. Don't listen to anyone else. It's not their wallet or car. It's yours.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Not a problem brother. Just get whatever trim makes you happy financially and longternally. Don't listen to anyone else. It's not their wallet or car. It's yours.

I am just trying to know beforehand what trim I would like. Because I cannot test-drive each for long periods of time so I can make my own mind.

[Thandel]

I’m so used to the cadillac forums it’s so much less knowledge over there but they all know somebody. I like this spot better more people have actual knowledge of cars in general. Just wait though all you turbo 4 guys I’m making a fitting kit for the internal pcv system use your own cans and fittings this part will just be mounted into the factory bung all 6061 aluminum. Getting my lathe next month literally the last piece I’m waiting for.

[pjz1082]

To me it comes down to what type of acceleration you like. V6 is more linear, the I4 will have some turbo lag. Other than that I doubt you would notice much difference. That said, if you plan on doing mods down the line, the I4 would appear the way to go. Way bigger aftermarket...well at least for now.

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

In early 90's you would need a 4.3L V6 w/ a turbo like in the GMC Syclone (SportTruck)to just reach a tie in a quarter mile or 0to60.

Sy/Ty are not in the same realm as Camaro. It took GM another 14 years to develop another truck to hit a 14.0 quarter again. They were way ahead of their time and would still be competitive in their class today (acceleration wise).

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by pjz1082

To me it comes down to what type of acceleration you like. V6 is more linear, the I4 will have some turbo lag. Other than that I doubt you would notice much difference. That said, if you plan on doing mods down the line, the I4 would appear the way to go. Way bigger aftermarket...well at least for now.

It's not so much turbo lag as the drive by wire system. But your correct on the power delivery and i doubt the V6 aftermarket will ever catch up to what we have now much less later. 5th gen suffered from the same aftermarket stagnation the 6th gen is currently experiencing.

[cooper1965]

The turbo lag talk is just hilarious
Its almost like the go to crutch, as to why NOT to buy the 2.0T. LOL.

Bone stock, the I4 destroys the v6 0-60.. Why? Boost launch..
Roll race, once again, it will walk the v6 well past legal speed limits.
Why? Brake boosting. Literally the only time the V6 edges out the I4 bone stock VS bone stock, is in a strictly 1/4 mile race. Around 80/85 MPH the V6 start to catch up to the front fender, and just barely inches past by the 1/4 mile

[Papa Smurf]

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

Sy/Ty are not in the same realm as Camaro. It took GM another 14 years to develop another truck to hit a 14.0 quarter again. They were way ahead of their time and would still be competitive in their class today (acceleration wise).

I agree and hear you loud and clear. I was simply justifying that the camaro little 2.0l turbo can simply hold its own against the GM sport truck syclone (by the way, that vehicle was nasty fast and ahead of its time in engineering) even with its huge turbo and big v6.

[Papa Smurf]

Originally Posted by cooper1965

The turbo lag talk is just hilarious
Its almost like the go to crutch, as to why NOT to buy the 2.0T. LOL.

Bone stock, the I4 destroys the v6 0-60.. Why? Boost launch..
Roll race, once again, it will walk the v6 well past legal speed limits.
Why? Brake boosting. Literally the only time the V6 edges out the I4 bone stock VS bone stock, is in a strictly 1/4 mile race. Around 80/85 MPH the V6 start to catch up to the front fender, and just barely inches past by the 1/4 mile

I know right. That's all I hear is Turbooo Lag this and that. GM did it right with this turbocharged Camaro regarding turbo lag. I hardly notice it. Granted it's not instant but it's not as bad as people say. Used to be a lot worse and more noticeable back in the day referring to turbo lag with older vehicles w/ turbocharged engine's.

[Thandel]

“It's not so much turbo lag as the drive by wire system. But your correct on the power delivery and i doubt the V6 aftermarket will ever catch up to what we have now much less later. 5th gen suffered from the same aftermarket stagnation the 6th gen is currently experiencing.”

Do they make the throttle adaptors? They made the throttle response adaptors for my now totaled fiat Abarth and it made a world of difference.. it was night and day.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by cooper1965

The turbo lag talk is just hilarious
Its almost like the go to crutch, as to why NOT to buy the 2.0T. LOL.

Bone stock, the I4 destroys the v6 0-60.. Why? Boost launch..
Roll race, once again, it will walk the v6 well past legal speed limits.
Why? Brake boosting. Literally the only time the V6 edges out the I4 bone stock VS bone stock, is in a strictly 1/4 mile race. Around 80/85 MPH the V6 start to catch up to the front fender, and just barely inches past by the 1/4 mile

You and Papa Smurf just made me consider the I4 much more than V6. Of course I will miss the V6 sound but what I am more interested into is the agility, fun and handling of the car.

It would be much easier to choose if they would’ve offered a 2.3/2.5 Turbo engine

[cooper1965]

Originally Posted by yankee

You and Papa Smurf just made me consider the I4 much more than V6. Of course I will miss the V6 sound but what I am more interested into is the agility, fun and handling of the car.

It would be much easier to choose if they would’ve offered a 2.3/2.5 Turbo engine

I can promise, you won't miss the V6..

I have a very close friend with the V6, who is really starting to have buyers remorse for letting "sound" play much too large of a roll in his 5 year auto loan..

[BlakeR]

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Good Morning. I was in the same boat my Friend. Debating and test driving the turbo 4 camaros, V6 even the SS. But let me tell you, GM did it right for specs, handling and price. I had a supercharged 07 cobalt ss and traded it in for a turbocharged camaro and haven't looked back for as lil as $21k. I didn't like the gas guzzling v6, and couldn't afford the SS. Plus insurance on them things, sheesh. Good luck. And my wife an insurance agent. But you can't beat these new muscle car turbos. Mustangs are doing it right. They honestly just dropped their V6 trim this year to focus more on the turbo Mustang since its...literally lighter, faster and better on gas. My wittle ol' 2017 50th Anniversary Camaro 4 Banger turbo is 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds. And does a quarter mile in 14 flat. That's incredibly fast for today's spectations coming from a 2 Liter engine. You couldn't get those numbers unless you threw a huge V8 underneath the hood or a Big V6 with a decent sized turbo back in the day. And dont get me started with daily driving them gas hogs. Maybe get 13mpg on average....MAYBE. While my turbo4 averages 28mpg. It's crazy today with engineering, electronic's and practicality in Fuel economy. Let me just tell you the Turbocharged Camaro wont dissapoint. Handling is more then impressive. Drives like a Cadillac. Literally. This camaro shares the same chasis as in the cadillac ats platform. Wow. Now that's the camaro shedding some serious heavy unnecessary weight meaning....faster. And with a couple bolt-on's and a tune, the V6 will be seeing nothing but your tail lights in your dust and quite possibly even the V8 SS. It's fast, let me tell you. Its Corvette fast. That's Subaru WRX. Its Dodge Challenger Fast. If you want to talk about numbers. What this lil 2 Liter Turbo can do and is pushing is more then impressive. To reach those track/speed numbers not that far...far...long ago. In early 90's you would need a 4.3L V6 w/ a turbo like in the GMC Syclone (SportTruck)to just reach a tie in a quarter mile or 0to60. Or even a V8 small block in the early 90s corvettes, that's right, a Corvette, to beat the turbo camaro. Therefore, i saw the 2.0t and fell in love with the specs, weight, exterior,interior,gas mpg and handling. Interior wise you get all great things the V6 RS owners get and even SS Camaro owners. Such as a standard touch screen, backup camera, great seats, same exterior cuts, cosmetically all trims ros.

I didn't read all of the above, but the v6 is no guzzler. Over 38,000 miles, my average is 26 mpg. Best thing is it runs on regular gas, NOT PREMIUM. Great daily driver for me.