[Fraxum]

OP I agree. For me the sunroof is a must have to throw some light into the Camaro tank-like cabin. And the extra fresh air is a bonus. Almost a convertible coupe.

But if I did not fit with a helmet, it would be a mohawk for me. And I agree the mohawk is a good look for the Camaro. But function first for me. A sunroof Camaro still looks great.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

1- There is too much flex in the car under heavy load.

No there isn't.

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

2- No protection from solid objects, ie: tree limbs, rocks, assholes throwing things from highway overpasses etc.

That's not really a thing to worry about. I mean, how did I survive all these years after all...??

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

3- Less headroom, of which there isn't much to begin with.

I'm 6'2" and I have plenty of headroom even with my helmet on at the track. So...

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

4- Eventually they all leak or pond water in the frame then mold starts to set in.

No they don't. I've never had a sunroof leak on me after 5-8 years of ownership. Even if they did then replacing the seals is cheap and easy. And that would be if you have to replace for the time you own the car anyway. So that isn't a legitimate concern.

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

5- Reduced cage strength in the case of a roll over [and thats a big deal].

How many cars have you flipped in your entire life? LOL! Even if you do flip the sunroof would not reduce the cage strength enough that you would be any more compromised than if you had a hardtop. Plus, if it landed on it's side, and if both doors were damaged and couldn't open, then you could always climb out the busted sunroof. +1!!

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

6- Electric motor breaks and you're stuck in the open position. Get out the cardboard and duct tape.

Yea and if the windshield wiper motor breaks in the middle of a monsoon then you're screwed. But how many times has that ever happened to anyone?

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

7- Sunlight bleaches the interior reducing the life of the leather [assuming you have a 2SS]

The cars with sunroof option that I have owned never had this happen. They are darkened or tinted enough to prevent this. Plus you can always close the shade. I leave my shade open 24/7 and my leather seats have been fine even on my 2010 SS that I had for over 5 years. No fading at all. Plus you should be touching up the interior every now and then with interior detailer. Your seats will be fine.

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

8- You are going to pay extra money to weaken the roof have a piece of your car cut out? Really?

You make it sound like they're cutting a hole in the roof and letting you drive off like that. You're paying money for a feature that allows you to open the roof and enjoy nice weather while driving. These cars are designed to be strong enough to handle a lot of different things. And they're super rigid while offering enough flex for the sunroof to not shatter. These are engineers with decades of experience and R&D. I think they know their stuff.

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

1- There is too much flex in the car under heavy load.

2- No protection from solid objects, ie: tree limbs, rocks, assholes throwing things from highway overpasses etc.

3- Less headroom, of which there isn't much to begin with.

4- Eventually they all leak or pond water in the frame then mold starts to set in.

5- Reduced cage strength in the case of a roll over [and thats a big deal].

6- Electric motor breaks and you're stuck in the open position. Get out the cardboard and duct tape.

7- Sunlight bleaches the interior reducing the life of the leather [assuming you have a 2SS]

8- You are going to pay extra money to weaken the roof have a piece of your car cut out? Really?

LOL

[KevinTernes]

A sunroof is a must for me because of the extra ventilation. I fart a lot.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Aboynamedsue

I’m not a fan of the sunroof.

agreed. I hate sunroofs. The only way I would ever get one is if it was forced on me in a package with other options I consider must haves. Other than that if I could I would never own a car with a sunroof.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by wingchunsifu

1- There is too much flex in the car under heavy load.

2- No protection from solid objects, ie: tree limbs, rocks, assholes throwing things from highway overpasses etc.

3- Less headroom, of which there isn't much to begin with.

4- Eventually they all leak or pond water in the frame then mold starts to set in.

5- Reduced cage strength in the case of a roll over [and thats a big deal].

6- Electric motor breaks and you're stuck in the open position. Get out the cardboard and duct tape.

7- Sunlight bleaches the interior reducing the life of the leather [assuming you have a 2SS]

8- You are going to pay extra money to weaken the roof have a piece of your car cut out? Really?

1. Our cars are extremely rigid. The moonroof makes no difference in structure, as I will explain below, because the middle of the roof is not part of the essential structure of the car. Besides, you don't know cowl shake until you've driven an '85 Camaro on a bumpy road with the t-tops removed. Talk to me then about body flex. These alphas are tight chassis, moonroof or no moonroof.

2. The moonroof glass is the same tempered safety glass that's in the rest of the windows. If you're that concerned about falling trees and rocks, should you even come out of your basement?

3. Unless you're Minute Bol or Kareem Abdul Jabaar, the headroom in our cars is fine if you have the seat adjusted properly. Tall people fit in Ford GTs and they're half the height of a Camaro.

4. Moonroof leaks are a thing of the past, from the 1970s. Modern moonroofs don't leak. In 3 cars I've put well over 100,000 miles on each with moonroofs, that I used all the time, I've never had a leak.

5. The center of the roof is the weakest point of any car. There is no reinforcement in there, and it's simply a sheet of 1/4" steel between your head and the ground in a roll over. What protects you is the reinforced side rails and integrated roll cage AROUND the roof. That is what absorbs the forces and supports the weight of the car. The center of the roof is the same "strength" whether you have a moonroof or not. Think about Jeep Wranglers, which are more prone to rolling over than a Camaro anyway - they have roll cages, yet only canvas or nothing in the middle of the roof.

6. You can say the same thing about your power windows. If one of them get stuck open, get out the cardboard and duct tape.

7. Modern moonroofs are all tinted. I mean, sure if you leave the glass open all day in direct sun I suppose over 10 years your leather will crack and fade a bit. Maybe. I don't know. Ask me in 10 years. I've yet to have faded or cracked leather because of a moonroof.

8. This goes back to #s 1 and 5 - the center point of the roof is weak whether you have a moonroof or not. Your roof is just as strong or weak as mine. What matters, again, is the side rails and reinforced steel around the frame of the roof.

[BurningMan]

I've had sunroofs in some of my previous cars, and never really used them. So it wasn't a necessity.

[s1dest3p]

I love it too!

[starscream5000]

I prefer no sun-roof, but it took me so long to find a car with MRC and NPP that I simply had to settle for the sunroof. I never use it and it's just one more thing that will leak or break later on down the road.

I ordered my other car and the sunroof was packaged in with another option I wanted, and I've probably used it 10 times in the past 5 years.

[Snowblind]

With short windows and the feeling like you are in the turret of a tank, it's refreshing to open up the roof and enjoy the sun.

After 150+ full passes down the strip my structural rigidity seems to be okay so far.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

After 150+ full passes down the strip my structural rigidity seems to be okay so far.

The alpha chassis is extremely rigid. I'm not sure what wingchunsifu was talking about because I've driven Mercedes and BMWs that aren't as tight as our Camaro.

[RunRS9114]

I don't think I'd own one without a sunroof. I'm not much for using the AC, even in the hotter summer months, so I have mine open constantly. Gives more of an open feeling to the interior.

[mlee]

Sunroofs suck on the 6th Gen.

That is all...

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by mlee

Sunroofs suck on the 6th Gen.

That is all...

Well, that settles it, lol. Close the thread.

Reason #1125 to have a sunroof