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Old 05-02-2018, 06:36 PM   #29
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Have read on Corvetteblogger.com, front engine/rear drive vettes will continue to be built along with the new mid-engine as long as the demand is there. Will also continue to cost less. I had a new '79 Z28 and three of my 22 to 25 year old friends & I rode around hrs partying and listening to music in the day. Asked my wife why we couldn't do it in newer Camaros, ( 3rd Gen and up)? She quickly reminded me we all weighed about 155 to 165 in those days instead of 200 plus now!!!
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:55 PM   #30
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I want to see Chevy make the Camaro a 2 seater, let it take the place of the Vette. I think they should come out with a v8 powered sedan for those who want more room, basically a Chevy 6.2L version of the ATS-V. I'd like to see at a bump up in displacement (for the displacement junkies out there, and bragging rights you know), thinking (wishfully I might add) that it'd be a 6.8L (~416ci) 525/525 naturally aspirated beast...oh and look 1000X times better than that 2019 "refresh".
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Old 05-02-2018, 09:07 PM   #31
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Let's not ignore the midlife crisis crowd either with 1-2 smaller kids who might just love sitting in the back (khm, khm). The back seat is a stable selling point in this segment, not a primary one, but important nevertheless.
That was a factor for me. Kids fit back there just fine. I was writing down some sample vanity plate ideas trying to spell out mid life crisis. My wife looked over and said, don't bother...it's obvious...
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:29 PM   #32
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That was a factor for me. Kids fit back there just fine. I was writing down some sample vanity plate ideas trying to spell out mid life crisis. My wife looked over and said, don't bother...it's obvious...
You just spoke my mind, buddy But, I stopped just short of submitting the vanity plate request, so you gotta give me at least that

And my son and younger daughter just love the backseat, no complaints whatsoever. They are even happy to take their shoes off each time, and she's no longer scared when I step on it.

So all in all, if the Camaro didn't have the rear bench, I would have been forced into the Charger or the Challenger (the Mustang has way too many dealbreakers).
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Old 05-02-2018, 11:47 PM   #33
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Let me first say man, I really love my 6th gen!

There is an interesting youtuber following the C8 and has posted some rumored power plants that would make for a fun trickle down into a 7th gen Camaro.

500hp 6.2L NA V8 (Revised LT1)
600hp 5.5L NA DOHC Flat-plane Crank
800hp 5.5L Twin-Turbo Flat-plane Crank (LT7?)




I think the NA flat-plane would be cool to try in a G7 Camaro. I love the sound of the GT350, and it would be fun to get a bigger displacement competitor to that engine.

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Old 05-03-2018, 07:39 AM   #34
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So hopefully I don't get anyone in trouble, but I was talking to an engineer and got a couple details on 7th gen.

So first it will be developed on a revised Alpha platform called the A2.
Second I was trying to impress upon the engineer that the car should have shorter sills (better visibility) and he expressed something to the effect of: Camaro owners want the chopped look and that is the direction we are continuing to take.
To me that is unfortunate as the lack of outward visibility is, by a large margin, the biggest detraction for people who are in the market but aren't already die hard Camaro fans.
That really saddens me. It's very obvious that a lot of Camaro buyers buy the Camaro DESPITE the small windows. I'm sure the engineers are just shaking their heads....they build a fantastic car but design has their head stuck so far up their ass they haven't seen daylight since 2011 when everyone still likes the Transformers.

I really like the car. It's obvious doubling down on (even smaller ) gun slit windows was a mistake. Honestly, wholat owners would not prefer a bit more glass????
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:09 AM   #35
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Have read on Corvetteblogger.com, front engine/rear drive vettes will continue to be built along with the new mid-engine as long as the demand is there.
The FE production is only scheduled until 2021. Unless some mules start popping up, it may end there.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:10 AM   #36
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If that was the case, going up market wouldn't require losing back seats. I think Camaro will be able to spread more upmarket, but will still need to maintain moderately priced options, which will likely require marketing to people who get at least some usage of the rear seats. Going to a two-seater eliminates an entire class of customers who need some semblance of a rear seat (package shelf ).

We're already at a point today where some Camaros cost more than some Corvettes. If Corvette goes further up market, it leaves more room for high priced Camaro variants, but you cannot take the entire line up there.
I think if they do that, it leaves a void at the bottom of the market (where they tried Sky/Solstice)
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:44 AM   #37
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The future of performance is always rising, pretty soon we'll be seeing electric hybrid Mustang GT / Dodge Challenger / Camaro. Exhaust sound on electric vehicle? Don't worry about that. They'll invent a device for that. As a Californian and their strict CARB law, i'm leaning towards electric for my next car.
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:52 AM   #38
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The future of performance is always rising, pretty soon we'll be seeing electric hybrid Mustang GT / Dodge Challenger / Camaro. Exhaust sound on electric vehicle? Don't worry about that. They'll invent a device for that. As a Californian and their strict CARB law, i'm leaning towards electric for my next car.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:01 AM   #39
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The FE production is only scheduled until 2021. Unless some mules start popping up, it may end there.
I wouldn't put too much credence in that. It's based on speculation. There has been nothing directly from GM about any of the things that are creating this speculation other than driving a couple of over dressed mule cars around.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:53 AM   #40
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That really saddens me. It's very obvious that a lot of Camaro buyers buy the Camaro DESPITE the small windows. I'm sure the engineers are just shaking their heads....they build a fantastic car but design has their head stuck so far up their ass they haven't seen daylight since 2011 when everyone still likes the Transformers.

I really like the car. It's obvious doubling down on (even smaller ) gun slit windows was a mistake. Honestly, wholat owners would not prefer a bit more glass????
I'll be honest.. I love the chopped look. One thing that turned me away from the Mustang was the 'jellybean' look. Just my opinion.

Now, if they could get rid of the stupid shark fin on the roof that would be great.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:55 AM   #41
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Personally, I don't think there will be a Gen 7. Slow sales, changes in the market, where is the return on the investment? I would hate to see it killed off (again), but I think the 2019 won't sell more with the new front end look, so the market will speak to the GM Management team. It's all about the numbers. Not us enthusiasts.
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Well, if the Corvette goes mid engine completely by 2021-22, then the Camaro might come out as Chevy's new 2 seat front engine sports car.
I think that would be a terrible decision.

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If that was the case, going up market wouldn't require losing back seats. I think Camaro will be able to spread more upmarket, but will still need to maintain moderately priced options, which will likely require marketing to people who get at least some usage of the rear seats. Going to a two-seater eliminates an entire class of customers who need some semblance of a rear seat (package shelf ).

We're already at a point today where some Camaros cost more than some Corvettes. If Corvette goes further up market, it leaves more room for high priced Camaro variants, but you cannot take the entire line up there.
This guy gets it ^ while there might be some lee way at the top end, you have to keep Camaro as an affordable car. The whole Camaro line can not move up market.

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I don't think that would be the smartest move. Corvette buyers are just that... Corvette buyers. And it's not a very big market. They're going to buy a Corvette even with the price increase. Camaro needs to and will stay in its market.

Also, I've heard from a very dependable source that the 7th gen will be a 2021 model year car.
This guy also gets it^ I have said it many times here before. Buying a new vette is a bucket list item for me. When the time comes if the vette is no so upmarket I can't afford it, I am NOT going to look at a Camaro as an alternative. Sorry, the Camaro will never be the Corvette

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Next Camaro will continue to be a 2+2. Visibility, interior storage and trunk concerns addressed. SS level at ~500 HP. I think a hatch would be a smart move.
I think if they addressed those two things you mentioned, they would literally have the ultimate pony car.

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The mid engine Corvette will be 100k to 150K (like a Z06)
Chevrolet will still make the Stingray (65K) this is a serious market segment and Chevrolet will no give that up.
Didn't tadge say a mid engine vette would only add 5-10K to the price of the Stingray?

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Let me first say man, I really love my 6th gen!

There is an interesting youtuber following the C8 and has posted some rumored power plants that would make for a fun trickle down into a 7th gen Camaro.

500hp 6.2L NA V8 (Revised LT1)
600hp 5.5L NA DOHC Flat-plane Crank
800hp 5.5L Twin-Turbo Flat-plane Crank (LT7?)




I think the NA flat-plane would be cool to try in a G7 Camaro. I love the sound of the GT350, and it would be fun to get a bigger displacement competitor to that engine.
I don't see anyway GM goes FPC, especially with power adders. There is a reason FPC motors aren't big displacement and I don't want to turn this into a GM vs Ford thing but look at all the problems with the VooDoo. You really think GM can build a better bigger FPC just because they are GM? And then slap turbos on it?
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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