[bigsapper]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

If the warranty worries you stay stock. At least you have +2 HP GM CAI that looks and sounds good.

But really though, are there threads where CA6 Camaros were denied warranty coverage?

If you ask me I think a Chevy CAI, a Ported TB, a ported stock manifold, a tune, and E85 will give a nice gain, (30+ HP?) and the car will look stock. Snowblind is running 11.10s with those mods, no CAI, a 3.73 diff and tires. How fast do you want to go?

Where do the 3.73s come from? Is that a factory config?

[Generallee0179]

If your dealer is denying coverage for something unrelated: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The act states that a dealer must prove that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.

[TunaMelt]

Originally Posted by Generallee0179

If your dealer is denying coverage for something unrelated: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The act states that a dealer must prove that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.

Also keep in mind that if you're not willing to go the legal route to enforce your rights then you're still at their decision. The legal route can sometimes cost more headache and money than the repair is worth. The big key is to have a good relationship with a reasonable dealer.

[WallsAndFoundations]

Originally Posted by jamoka3

Hey Guys, Just picked up my 2018 2SS / A8, and wanted to know what kind of Performance mods are available to get the most out of the car and still maintain factory warranty? (For now...)
I saw that GM made several performance parts, but I also found companies that make the "exact" part just cheaper...
I wanted to know what you guys run and whats best?

Nothing that will not potentially void your warranty. Better to work on driver mod and upgrade your suspension and throw some lighter wheels too. GM offers their intake with a tune. That's about it minus a catback

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by TunaMelt

Also keep in mind that if you're not willing to go the legal route to enforce your rights then you're still at their decision. The legal route can sometimes cost more headache and money than the repair is worth. The big key is to have a good relationship with a reasonable dealer.

This is kind of true, but if you are somewhat familiar with the legal route, you can usually do 95% of what you'd pay a lawyer to do, up until actually walking into the small-claims court or whatnot. This is a skill I have due to my job as an investigator, but I have come to realize you don't need to be a lawyer to do much of what "gets the job done" in these cases. Usually once you serve them notice, once they catch on that you are crossing your Ts and dotting your Is by keeping a careful accurate record of their actions, lack thereof, the people you talk to, their managers, etc., the business usually comes around pretty fast, because they realize you are gathering all the documentation you need to cream them in court. The businesses that don't come around are the ones that would be made a fool if it did come to court. I recently had to deal with an issue of a glass repair shop scratching my instrument cluster when they installed the windshield. The shop and manager played dumb at first. Ok, no problem. I made sure to take the pictures I needed, got the names, got my statement typed up, and contacted the owner. The owner did the right thing, it took a while, but I got them to cover the $1300 part and pay the $300 labor. Of course, when I had BMW install the part, the idiot who brought my car around scratched the bumper on the curb by pulling up too close to it. Same thing, documented and they knew they couldn't deny it or fight it, they did the right thing. The point is whenever something like this happens, you have to go into "documentation" and "evidence gathering" mode. Once the business sniffs this out, that you aren't just going to fold, they will usually do the right thing if there was any question to begin with. To a large extent, most businesses respect this anyway. If you approach it from a reasonable point of view, as in "I expect you guys to do the right thing, but I just have to collect this information to make sure I protect myself", you rarely get push-back in my experience. So my point is you don't necessarily have to "go the legal route", but if something like this happens, where they won't cover something that is supposed to be covered, you need to collect a lot of information, talk to the mechanics, get their statements, talk to the service manager, if they won't let you talk to the people you need to document that, and so on. The lawyer is most likely just going to tell you to do all of these things and then write some fancy letters serving the business notice that they have a certain amount of time to respond or the matter will be settled in court, and usually the cost for the business to go to court and fight it is going to be more trouble than it's worth. You can write the fancy letter yourself and there's no need to involve the lawyer until you really need them, and if you've documented each step and have all the evidence/statements/etc., then it'll be a snap anyway.

[Magna_Flow]

Originally Posted by Generallee0179

If your dealer is denying coverage for something unrelated: Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The act states that a dealer must prove that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.

Originally Posted by TunaMelt

Also keep in mind that if you're not willing to go the legal route to enforce your rights then you're still at their decision. The legal route can sometimes cost more headache and money than the repair is worth. The big key is to have a good relationship with a reasonable dealer.

Both great points. The MM act is in place, however, it is not a shield for any and all mods. Facing the facts, most people will not have the desire, funds and time to take such a matter to court successfully, so its best to avoid a situation completely. Having a good relationship with your dealer is key and sticking to basic boltons like intake and catback exhaust should keep you off their blacklist.

Tunes affect all aspects of the motor, which makes it incredibly easy to place the blame on in the case of any engine failure.

[HyperBlue16SS]

Originally Posted by PRAY

You are basically stuck with a RF CAI, ported stock IM/TB. Everything else will require a tune. Once you are tuned your warranty is gone. To notice the ported IM/TB they would have to pull the car apart. Even then they most likely won't notice the IM. Once oil covers up the porting you have to know what you are looking for. The CAI you can swap back and forth for the dealership.

I still recommend a tune with any mods but it isn't necessary with what I listed.

So totally agree with Pray. Our local dealer definitely is not mod friendly at all. How much realistic power can we get from those three things I wonder?

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by HyperBlue16SS

So totally agree with Pray. Our local dealer definitely is not mod friendly at all. How much realistic power can we get from those three things I wonder?

20whp give or take.