[Artos]

I have come to appreciate the nannies on the street...especially since the cooler weather arrived. Simply brilliant, but do want to get to know the car / throttle's actual ability in safer conditions.


I'm a little confused about the said process / comments.

Are you guys saying the hold down & the double tap are indeed the same in regards to the said nannies??

Do you have to be in Sport when you switch to DT and/or Hold or does the car simply understand once you enter the setting, it automatically & consistently will have less nannies on Sport vs Track if you want to test between the two.

[likerage]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Well. I turned off the nannies once....
..and it's the last time.
The car was all over the place when I put the pedal down.
Absolutely not safe to do when driving on the street.

Mustang coming out of car show mode?

[Sooner Cole]

Originally Posted by Artos

I have come to appreciate the nannies on the street...especially since the cooler weather arrived. Simply brilliant, but do want to get to know the car / throttle's actual ability in safer conditions.


I'm a little confused about the said process / comments.

Are you guys saying the hold down & the double tap are indeed the same in regards to the said nannies??

Do you have to be in Sport when you switch to DT and/or Hold or does the car simply understand once you enter the setting, it automatically & consistently will have less nannies on Sport vs Track if you want to test between the two.

I have always been told that they are NOT same? Someone will jump in here and explain.

[Artos]

Originally Posted by likerage

Mustang coming out of car show mode?

lol...I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw what I'm sure is the same vid. That was hilariously sad judgement.

[Artos]

Originally Posted by 17ZL1Camaro

I have always been told that they are NOT same? Someone will jump in here and explain.

I'll be honest & am not a big gadget guy & haven't mess with the double tap to mess with the setting as I really haven't had a need to...I did fiddle w/ the hold down some when I was out on the back roads during the summer & while I could tell the difference, it wasn't huge. Maybe because it was so hot & the pavement / tires we hooking up so well even with nannies??


I wouldn't temp it during cool weather seeing how different the car now behaves vs 100 degrees...again, the nannies are fantastic on the street at the moment.


I'll likely be one to circle back & start another thread on tires when the time comes to replace. I only have 3500 miles but will be interested to see what others like & dislike with OEM alternatives with some time behind them. I'm leaning towards staying OEM as of now because of how they like the heat & suits deep south tx just fine for the majority of the months & mind my manners in our short cool sprint where they are not real happy.

[thompstl1]

On my car, if you hold down the traction control button until both lights come on, it DOES NOT turn off all nannies (on my car anyway, and other's I've talked to also).

At the Texas Mile I was wanting to do a conventional type burnout prior to running the mile. I wasn't interested in going through the line lock procedure and simply wanted to apply the brakes and do a standard burnout. To accomplish that, I held down the traction control button for 7 seconds until I got both lights. I was also in Race mode.

As soon as the tires began to spin, the traction control would limit the spin by cutting throttle (or timing or whatever method used to limit acceleration). Tried quite a few times and COULD NOT burnout with both lights on.

Eventually, I tried the burnout with only the 1st light on and to my surprise the burnout went great.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by thompstl1

On my car, if you hold down the traction control button until both lights come on, it DOES NOT turn off all nannies (on my car anyway, and other's I've talked to also).

At the Texas Mile I was wanting to do a conventional type burnout prior to running the mile. I wasn't interested in going through the line lock procedure and simply wanted to apply the brakes and do a standard burnout. To accomplish that, I held down the traction control button for 7 seconds until I got both lights. I was also in Race mode.

As soon as the tires began to spin, the traction control would limit the spin by cutting throttle (or timing or whatever method used to limit acceleration). Tried quite a few times and COULD NOT burnout with both lights on.

Eventually, I tried the burnout with only the 1st light on and to my surprise the burnout went great.

oK READ WHAT I WROTE EARLIER not in TRACK! Do it out of Sport....it doesnt give you all the same wet dry sport race... It just says you are in Competition Driving Mode....your tires will spin! Like a burn out....no restrictions

[thompstl1]

Originally Posted by Boo

oK READ WHAT I WROTE EARLIER not in TRACK! Do it out of Sport....it doesnt give you all the same wet dry sport race... It just says you are in Competition Driving Mode....your tires will spin! Like a burn out....no restrictions

I understand.. My car won't do a burn out with both lights on, regardless of what mode I'm in.

It's pretty confusing! I know members on the Corvette forum have found their Corvettes work the same way mine is working, can only spin the rear tires (without traction control coming on) when the first light is on... again, regardless of mode. There was (at least) one other ZL1 at the Texas Mile who's car worked just like mine was doing....

[Boo]

Originally Posted by thompstl1

I understand.. My car won't do a burn out with both lights on, regardless of what mode I'm in.

It's pretty confusing! I know members on the Corvette forum have found their Corvettes work the same way mine is working, can only spin the rear tires (without traction control coming on) when the first light is on... again, regardless of mode. There was (at least) one other ZL1 at the Texas Mile who's car worked just like mine was doing....

Alright well that seems strange. I figured there could be a difference in A10's to M6's but really this is an odd anomaly if it turns out some cars are completely free in Sports...CDM while others remain restricted.

[thompstl1]

Originally Posted by Boo

Alright well that seems strange. I figured there could be a difference in A10's to M6's but really this is an odd anomaly if it turns out some cars are completely free in Sports...CDM while others remain restricted.

You might try this in yours and see if it works differently. There seems to be a lot of confusion on whether the dual lights really turn off traction control. I know there is a LOT of assumption that it does... again, it is very confusing...

[STAY IN IT]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Agreed. I'd kill myself on the street doing that. I leave the nannies on.

You pro's out there, you'll stay in the gas and keep it sideways all the while accelerating. I give you props for having the skills to do that.

It’s counterintuitive, but I’ve always felt like I have a much better idea of what the car is going to do when on the throttle with the tires spinning as opposed to letting off when lots of unpredictable things can happen. The most important thing is smooth modulation of the throttle as opposed to using it like a light switch.

Those of us who learned to drive on the ice and snow probably had a much easier time getting comfortable dealing with the rear end stepping out on us. I literally had the rear tires spinning 50% of the time on the ice when I was kid.

I would bet that nearly all of the “cars and coffee” burnouts leaving the parking lot that we see on You Tube that went bad actually went bad when the driver panicked and got out of the throttle. STAY IN IT!

[kramard]

Originally Posted by STAY IN IT

It’s counterintuitive, but I’ve always felt like I have a much better idea of what the car is going to do when on the throttle with the tires spinning as opposed to letting off when lots of unpredictable things can happen. The most important thing is smooth modulation of the throttle as opposed to using it like a light switch.

Those of us who learned to drive on the ice and snow probably had a much easier time getting comfortable dealing with the rear end stepping out on us. I literally had the rear tires spinning 50% of the time on the ice when I was kid.

I would bet that nearly all of the “cars and coffee” burnouts leaving the parking lot that we see on You Tube that went bad actually went bad when the driver panicked and got out of the throttle. STAY IN IT!

Agree 100% I actually think ptm can cause a tank slapper. Between the brake application and cut of throttle the catches can be pretty nasty. On track I’ve been going all off and stay with it if it starts moving... biggest issue I see folks have is they get out of the gas AND are slow on taking lock out and the combination of a lot of steering lock with tires that are regaining grip equals weeeee. I can’t recall who said but some said they never found a problem they can’t fix on a bike without more throttle...

[Boo]

Originally Posted by kramard

Agree 100% I actually think ptm can cause a tank slapper. Between the brake application and cut of throttle the catches can be pretty nasty. On track I’ve been going all off and stay with it if it starts moving... biggest issue I see folks have is they get out of the gas AND are slow on taking lock out and the combination of a lot of steering lock with tires that are regaining grip equals weeeee. I can’t recall who said but some said they never found a problem they can’t fix on a bike without more throttle...

Most of these Rustang wrecks occur when they step on the gas before their tires are lined up....they are making right turns and flooring it. before straightening out..this happens all the time.

[Battlezone580]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Agreed. I'd kill myself on the street doing that. I leave the nannies on.

I remember back in the day Owen over a ARD took me for a ride in his 900 hp Zl1. He turned everything off. He then proceeded to turn out of his shop onto a good mile long straight. He literally had it sideways the whole time up to 120 mph damn nearly pulling a Paul Walker with me in the car. Dude had it under control the whole time.

We got back to the shop and I said, dude, wtf was that? He just laughed. I went home knowing I was a bitch of a driver. No way could I of pulled that off. So yea, anytime I get squirrely, I lay off the gas. You pro's out there, you'll stay in the gas and keep it sideways all the while accelerating. I give you props for having the skills to do that.

Even pros make mistakes, look at Roger Rodius the professional driver who killed himself and passenger Paul Walker. Leave the nannies on and save it for the track. Its all fun and games until someone gets killed, and leave their kids behind with no parent.