[Raggazone82]

Hi all! I have been reading in here for a while, just joined to ask about a V6 6th gen. I'm looking for get one for a year around DD. I've had a 3rd and 4th gen Z28s, not good all year cars. I'm looking at a V6 just because I'm driving more and need something decent on gas. I live in northern IN so we get a decent amount of snow. With a good set of tires will these cars be decent during the winter? And since the LGXs have been out a while, anything to look out for in higher mileage cars. From what I've read these are a lot better than previous 3.6s.
Thanks in advance, I have searched but with mixed answers.

[Bumbleboy92]

Welcome!

I don’t think there’s any crazy issues with the LGX, you’ll get answers pointing to the A8 shudder which really all depends on the previous owners actions.

2016-2019 had A8

2019-2024 had A10

If you’re looking for a manual then it’s the same for all years.

I ran mine up to 126k miles until an 18 wheeler totaled it, only main issues I had were the thermostat needing to be replaced. I did get the shudder, had it flushed then a year later tuned AFM off. Drove nicely otherwise, maybe a hard shift to reverse once in a while.

[Msquared]

Any Camaro should be decent in the snow with proper tires. Where you live, you might be well advised to invest in a second set of base wheels (18x8.5) and dedicated snow tires (245/50/18) for winter months. And/or you can scan our Wheel and Tire Classified section: I recall someone posting a set for sale recently. Does the base V6 come with a limited-slip differential? That would be helpful. Otherwise, the V6 should be close to a 50/50 weight distribution, and even my SS 1LE could handle some snow with just Conti DWS all-season on it.

[S.Macias]

2016 V6. 162,272 as of right now. Not at all easy on the car, especially at it’s gotten older.

No major problems other than what other have mentioned (52k-thermostat, 55k-shudder, 74k-afm solenoids, 80k-passenger rear hub bearing). Everything is pretty easy to work on since there’s a lot of space. No major issues other than running out of things to buy…

[bishopts]

Keep the oil changed. That's the biggest thing. I doubt the v6 gets better mileage than the 6.2 tho. I did an all highway run from dallas to Oklahoma and back was right at 350 miles and my average using math of miles and gallons to refill was 27 mpg.
The same run in my 2.0t cadillac ats was 26mpg

[dpevans]

You are right in the lake effect. I live in Fort Wayne and we don't get as much snow as you, my last Camaro was the LGX M6 and in snow/Ice mode I had no issues getting around. If you are familiar driving a rear wheel drive in the snow it's actually pretty decent. There were some issues with the A8 in the early model years so I would be wary of that but the LGX is a solid motor. I ran BF Goodrich A/S comp2 in the winter.

[Bumbleboy92]

Originally Posted by Msquared

Does the base V6 come with a limited-slip differential? That would be helpful.

Only the M6 v6 got LSD (3.27 ratio), the A8 and A10 v6 didn’t get LSD

Originally Posted by S.Macias

2016 V6. 162,272 as of right now. Not at all easy on the car, especially at it’s gotten older.

No major problems other than what other have mentioned (52k-thermostat, 55k-shudder, 74k-afm solenoids, 80k-passenger rear hub bearing). Everything is pretty easy to work on since there’s a lot of space. No major issues other than running out of things to buy…

I actually had the same passenger rear hub bearing go out right around that mileage, weird lol. Plus some exhaust rattles (resonator and AFM rattles)

Originally Posted by bishopts

Keep the oil changed. That's the biggest thing. I doubt the v6 gets better mileage than the 6.2 tho. I did an all highway run from dallas to Oklahoma and back was right at 350 miles and my average using math of miles and gallons to refill was 27 mpg.
The same run in my 2.0t cadillac ats was 26mpg

They’re pretty similar, here are my lifetime mpg readings for the mileage I owned the cars:

2016 v6 A8: 21mpg 60k miles with ~30k miles AFM off

2022 v8 A10: 17.6mpg 27k miles

[GXP08jrf]

Don't discount the LTG as an option in your search. If you get the opportunity test drive one of each, do it. Even though the numbers indicate better performance overall with the V6, I found the L4 to be a little more fun to drive hard than the V6 (for the A8, I didn't drive manuals). I belive the combination of gearing and throttle response made the difference.

When i was shopping 3 years ago, I'd settled on wanting the 4 over the 6, but a V6 came up for sale close to me with the right options and price so I jumped on it. To be fair, this is a fair-weather cruiser convertible, so outright performance wasn't my priority.

I'd also owned an ATS and two CTSs with the LTG and they didn't leave me wanting for more power, so I knew going into it about what performance I was going to get out of the engine. In retrospect, I enjoyed driving the ATS more than the Camaro in large part due to the L4/V6 difference.

There are a couple of companies that offer really good support for the LTG platform both in parts and tunes (nothing like the support the V8 gets, but still pretty good). The V6 is already tuned at about the limit of capability from the showroom, and without boosting, it's hard to wring out too much more, and for that cost you might as well get an LT1. I added a ported TB to my V6, and it seemed to help off the line, but still feels a littly lazy when you first get into the pedal. The turbo lag is similar, but you do get a nice pull once the turbo spools up, which is pretty quick from the punch.

Overall I somewhat regret not holding out for the right LTG in my search.

To your original point, Winter driving is what you make it. Good tires and caution (as with any vehicle) make the difference. Traction control and ABS will tell you when you're pushing too much...

[ctrlz]

Originally Posted by Raggazone82

I live in northern IN so we get a decent amount of snow.

I think you would want the limited slip diff for a camaro you drive in the snow (even with snow tires). That means looking for a V6 manual, which might be a rare bird. Might find a V8 cheaper with an automatic (and get the limited slip).
Agree, none of these will be stingy on fuel consumption.

The practical way to approach this is to really look at your purchase price. Differences in fuel economy can be hard to make up over the time you own the vehicle if you paid too much up front for that improved economy.

[Bumbleboy92]

I agree to check out the 4 cylinder, unlike the jump to the v8, the 4 and 6 cylinders are much closer in pricing. If modding the engine is your speed then the v6 has three routes:

1- Ported intake manifold/larger tb size, intake, downpipes

2- Supercharge

3- Turbo (only seen a handful go turbo)

The LTG does have a bigger aftermarket range. A v6 M6 may indeed be a harder find, ~2019+ had 40k v6’s made with ~2,451 of them paired with the M6. Even less so with the LTG with ~30k LTG’s made and only ~114 with M6. Add on the other years plus remaining and I doubt the combined v6/L4 M6 cars total across all years would go over 5k

[bishopts]

If it were me. I would choose the LTG over the v6. Ive been through both of them and the simplicity of the LTG is great. Other than the valve cover.... that thing might as well have been designed by Volkswagen. It's way overly complex.
I do chains and phasers on the V6 all the time (mostly cadillacs) its a 3 chain setup that runs short teeth on the gears. The basic design has been around since 2006 so they have worked some kinks out over the generations. Aftermarket is definitely very lacking and not rewarding. The amount needed to really make any improvements would be so expensive that you might as well just buy a v8.
Now the LTG... with a tune you can be over the v6 hp. Its forged rods, pistons, and crank from the factory. The way the power kinda rolls in gives you a cushion to maintain traction coming out of the hole and then it kinda ramps up quickly. On the failure side of those ive seen a lot of the vacuum pumps fail (to the point that i completely deleted mine) . The pcv hose system will crack but ideally you go to a catch can that replaces the hoses.

Either way will be good. Just price the whole project before you start. Build the plan and follow it

[Gunkk]

The LTG 4T, LT1 V8 and LT4 V8 all require premium fuel.

LGX V6 does not.

Thermostats are the #1 issue on the LGX: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledi...sual_suspects/

Transmission shudder can happen in all GM model and engine variants with GM 8-speed automatics. It's caused by degradation of the friction modifiers in the fluid by moisture, and easily fixed with a proper fluid flush if caught early. If let go, the shudder can become permanent when the torque converter clutches get burnt, requiring TC replacement to correct. So don't buy a car with shudder unless you negotiate down the price by the cost of a TC replacement.

Lifetime fluid is only for GM's warranty lifetime, not your lifetime or the car's lifetime. So change the fluid every 60kmi regardless of what GM or the manual say.

[bishopts]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

The LTG 4T, LT1 V8 and LT4 V8 all require premium fuel.

LGX V6 does not.

I don't know about that... "can use" low grade maybe but direct injection is high compression so high compression is premium fuel.
I can run my run both my LT1 and LTG on regular with no engine lights but i know i will feel it in performance, just like LGX.

Also premium is like a difference of 65 cents. So per tank you're different by about what? 10 bucks?
If that even is an issue then maybe owning a performance car isn't really the best idea.

[Raggazone82]

Thank you for all the responses. I was looking for the V6 just because if I get an SS then id cam it, exhaust etc etc. the V6 would just be a nice cruiser leaving stock. The A8 not having a LSD kinda sucks. But with decent tires and I think I should be fine. I'll post pics when it happens.