[Saberscar223]

What if much like the LT1 trim there was an LT4 trim. That utilizes the base Camaro body and interior but gets the SS tire sizes and Suspension and gets the LT4 engine.

Do you think it should use the base body like the lt1 or use the SS body and how much would you expect this trim to cost?

[Number 3]

Well the car is gone so moot point.

But it was published that the LT4 was too tall to fit in the Camaro as is.

But not sure what you mean by base body and SS body. The body, with the exception of some bolt on stiffeners, is pretty much the same.

But as the car is gone, you can only speculate as it won't happen any time soon.

Now IF they happen to pull a wild hair and make a hybrid Alpha2 and delay the EV replacements...........

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Well the car is gone so moot point.

But it was published that the LT4 was too tall to fit in the Camaro as is.

But not sure what you mean by base body and SS body. The body, with the exception of some bolt on stiffeners, is pretty much the same.

But as the car is gone, you can only speculate as it won't happen any time soon.

Now IF they happen to pull a wild hair and make a hybrid Alpha2 and delay the EV replacements...........

You’re thinking of the LT6 or maybe even the LT5. The LT4 is literally in the zl1…

The point he is trying to make is if GM made the LT4 trim kinda like they did the LT1 trim.

LT1 trim: base model body but with the SS engine and front brakes.

Op’s LT4 trim: SS body (or base model body since he gave both options) but with the zl1 engine and maybe front brakes.

OP, I think it should be SS body, SS 1le front brakes, LT4, front springs from zl1 to account for extra weight of LT4 (shouldn’t affect cost), but still come with fixed shocks (not mag ride) standard but have the chance to add mag ride for extra. Should start as a 1ss but have the ability to add 2ss features.

[tenargo57]

Originally Posted by Saberscar223

What if much like the LT1 trim there was an LT4 trim. That utilizes the base Camaro body and interior but gets the SS tire sizes and Suspension and gets the LT4 engine.

Do you think it should use the base body like the lt1 or use the SS body and how much would you expect this trim to cost?

For as much as people like to compare the ZL1 and SS 1LE as being the same car with a different engine, the ZL1 received a lot of other mechanical upgrades to support the LT4's power even beyond what 1LE received, like an even stronger transmission and even bigger 6 piston brakes. It would need all of those expensive power supporting upgrades while ditching the cheaper ones like wider wheels and magneride. It probably wouldn't be much cheaper than the ZL1 was to begin with.

[Junction65]

Originally Posted by Saberscar223

What if much like the LT1 trim there was an LT4 trim. That utilizes the base Camaro body and interior but gets the SS tire sizes and Suspension and gets the LT4 engine.

If this had been offered, it would currently be occupying space in my garage.

[david_acm]

Interesting exercise. Didn't the base (read: no options) LT1 have the bare minimum to support the LT1 engine? Shouldn't this hypothetical trim be something along the same lines? Else it's would kinda be like the 1SS or 2SS where they're basically the same thing just one has more options than the other.

[Abubaca]

While I fully support anyone's WANT for a certain car, if you look for a gap in the performance line up, it's not ABOVE the SS, it's below. Meaning if you're not happy with an SS, 1LE, ZL1, or ZLE.....I mean.....let's be serious. There's no need for another trim level. All four options are so stupidly beyond what anyone actually NEEDS. Now I'm all for it, don't get me wrong. But from Chevrolet's point of view, do you really think they're losing money by having no product for the guy that's looking for an LT4 "trim" car? Again, I'm all for it, but....it's really no surprise it wasn't offered.



....now the idea of the LT1 trim was to appeal to the guy who wanted the V8, wanted that piece of America, that part of the dream, but maybe didn't need the world class performance that the SS offered and price it takes to get it. -and it sold well. I'd be curious to see what a 5.3 Liter car would've sold like, assuming the price could come in at or below the price of the V6. Chevrolet would've needed that to be planned out from the get go, but HAD they done that.....would've been interesting. At about 350 horsepower, the v6 certainly fit the power and fuel economy mark for a base/entry Camaro, but you'll never convince me they didn't lose buyers by it not being a v8. -and same with Ford and Dodge. Dodge at least had a smaller v8, but who knows. Lord knows GM build a gazillion 5.3's for their trucks, compared to the 6.2 variants for trucks/Camaro/Vette. Would've been interesting to see just HOW cheap they could've got that 5.3 Trim.

[FarmerFran]

The ZL1 tires can barley hold on as it is, you would be nuts to run SS tires.

[arpad_m]

What you guys really want is full option configurability, which will not happen again.

The ZL1 has a few stronger parts, including the suspension and wider wheels/tires because the engine has 200 more crank horsepower, I don't see why a manufacturer would have wanted to take risks by sticking the LT4 into a lower trim package,

I get that people may think of a "cheap supercharged V8" trim similar to the "cheap V8" trim the LT1 is as a worthy offering, but doing it sustainably wouldn't be much, if at all, cheaper. GM wouldn't want to let go of their "top dog" price premium either.

[ZPirate]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

The LT4 is literally in the zl1…

Exactly!

[JamesNoBrakes]

Cars w/o the suspension and rubber to handle the power are stupid.

[ZED SLED]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Cars w/o the suspension and rubber to handle the power are stupid.

^ case in point...Dodge

[LTfun]

Originally Posted by ZED SLED

^ case in point...Dodge

Which sold like hot cakes so I'm not really sure what that point is other than it can be really fun.



I'll second who ever said that's what would be in my garage. Valid points are brought up about tires and suspension. But changing wheels and tires does not impact your factory warranty the way forged internals and piston rings do. Plus every car I've ever owned eventually gets coil overs and other suspension mods so for lunatics like me the LT4 would be great.

[m6-lt1]

Ford sold a 662 hp Mustang with a live rear axel , man trans only and 285 rear tires out back. It would have been fine if Chevy sold a 650 hp camaro with slightly smaller tires than an zl1 and no e-diff.