Newb here. Camaro questions.

SurfAnimal · 08-11-2023, 01:32 PM

Hey guys, new guy here. I'm looking to get into a used late model Camaro, likely a 2ss. Sadly, I'm in Orlando,Fl, and the traffic sucks, so I was leaning towards an automatic. That said, I am wary about AFM, and as far as I know, a manual is the only real way around it. Am I worrying for nothing? Is there anything else I should be worried about in a used 2ss? Things to pay particular attention to? Thanks in advance, Bobby.

Capricio · 08-11-2023, 01:35 PM

Some believe the AFM issues were resolved and are specific to truck versions of the GEN4 and GEN5 V8s. There is module you can leave in your OBD2 port that will keep you "V8 mode" all the time and defeat the ECU feature. I'm not worrying about it, esp while under warranty.

SurfAnimal · 08-11-2023, 01:46 PM

The cars Im looking at are out of warranty. Ive seen that running it manually will keep afm from engaging too. Is that accurate? Thanks for the reply. I'm looking at a 2016 right now.

SurfAnimal · 08-11-2023, 01:54 PM

This is the one I'm looking at right now.
https://www.sunstateford.com/vehicle...--Orlando--FL/

FirstAndLast · 08-11-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfAnimal

This is the one I'm looking at right now.
https://www.sunstateford.com/vehicle...--Orlando--FL/

With 80K miles I would be more concerned with the A8 transmission. Especially since it was last serviced at a transmission shop and sold/traded about 1K to 2K miles later. A good long test drive to feel for the shutter issue would be wise. I also don't like the fact that it spent the first 4 years of it's life up north. Definitely look for signs of rust. Hopefully the previous owner parked it for the winter.

SurfAnimal · 08-11-2023, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm going to drive it.

Dynamical · 08-11-2023, 02:29 PM

Your worries are the same as mine. I finally decided to put the trigger on a 22 LT1 A10 a month ago. I ordered a range device to at least keep it in V8 100% of the time although that is still not 100% bulletproof. The lifters could still fail. I figure when it's time to do a cam, I will have all the AFM/DOD deleted (Un-installed) and have solid lifters put back in. As for the manual being the only way around the AFM/DOD, I believe is false because as far as I know, the manual also has the AFM/DOD installed hardware in the LT1 motor. So in other words, when I turn off the AFM via range device, it's exactly like having the manual motor, the AFM is just not activated.
Running the auto in manual mode will not keep it in V8 mode either. I tried that.

SurfAnimal · 08-11-2023, 08:10 PM

I went and drove the 2016. I LOOOVED it. They also had a 2010 2SS, I drove it too. It was a manual, and having not driven a manual in at least 10 years, I stalled it twice, but goTdamn, did it throw me back in the seat. Either way, the manual is not for me. What I didn't realize, is that the mirror camera wasnt available until 2019. That was the thing I really want to see before I decide. Anyone have experience with these? Thanks, Bobby.

Bumbleboy92 · 08-11-2023, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SurfAnimal

I went and drove the 2016. I LOOOVED it. They also had a 2010 2SS, I drove it too. It was a manual, and having not driven a manual in at least 10 years, I stalled it twice, but goTdamn, did it throw me back in the seat. Either way, the manual is not for me. What I didn't realize, is that the mirror camera wasnt available until 2019. That was the thing I really want to see before I decide. Anyone have experience with these? Thanks, Bobby.

It improves the rear view a lot imo, very nice to have. But if you’re somewhat mechanically inclined you can add the camera mirror to your car. I did to my 2016 1LT

FarmerFran · 08-12-2023, 07:21 AM

nevermind

SurfAnimal · 08-13-2023, 09:27 AM

His final number on the 2016 was $32,153. I countered with 24. Before I even got home, he texted that hed shave off 2K. No enough. 30k is just too much for a car with 80k on the clock. (As far as I'm concerned)

Plasar · 08-13-2023, 10:24 AM

Hi SurfAnimal. I hope you can connect with a Camaro that you like.

Regarding pricing, I would use a web site like Kelly's Blue Book to see what range you are looking at in your geography, mileage, options, condition, etc. Otherwise, I suspect you are "guessing".

https://www.kbb.com/chevrolet/camaro...6828058%7ctrue

SnakeEyeSS · 08-13-2023, 11:03 AM

I think the mirror camera is hard to adjust to when you look at it. Maybe it's just me

LT4Greg · 08-13-2023, 11:58 AM

To the Op, keep looking for a newer year Camaro with less mileage. You may have to pay more but might be worth the money in the long run especially if you plan to keep or hold on to it longer.

08-11-2023, 01:32 PM	#1
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	Newb here. Camaro questions. Hey guys, new guy here. I'm looking to get into a used late model Camaro, likely a 2ss. Sadly, I'm in Orlando,Fl, and the traffic sucks, so I was leaning towards an automatic. That said, I am wary about AFM, and as far as I know, a manual is the only real way around it. Am I worrying for nothing? Is there anything else I should be worried about in a used 2ss? Things to pay particular attention to? Thanks in advance, Bobby.

08-11-2023, 01:35 PM	#2
Capricio Drives: 2000 WS6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: AZ Posts: 458	Some believe the AFM issues were resolved and are specific to truck versions of the GEN4 and GEN5 V8s. There is module you can leave in your OBD2 port that will keep you "V8 mode" all the time and defeat the ECU feature. I'm not worrying about it, esp while under warranty. Last edited by Capricio; 08-11-2023 at 04:04 PM.

08-11-2023, 02:29 PM	#7
Dynamical Drives: 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: new england Posts: 394	Your worries are the same as mine. I finally decided to put the trigger on a 22 LT1 A10 a month ago. I ordered a range device to at least keep it in V8 100% of the time although that is still not 100% bulletproof. The lifters could still fail. I figure when it's time to do a cam, I will have all the AFM/DOD deleted (Un-installed) and have solid lifters put back in. As for the manual being the only way around the AFM/DOD, I believe is false because as far as I know, the manual also has the AFM/DOD installed hardware in the LT1 motor. So in other words, when I turn off the AFM via range device, it's exactly like having the manual motor, the AFM is just not activated. Running the auto in manual mode will not keep it in V8 mode either. I tried that. __________________ 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 - Drag Pack/AxleBack -11.849@118.67MPH/1.798 60' 2001 Camaro SS A4 - HCI/Stall/Bolt-on/Gear/Tune/DR/Diet - 429HP/392TQ - 10.99@123.58MPH/1.584 60' 1998 Camaro Z28 A4 - Bolt-on 1999 Camaro Z28 A4 - Stock *FJB*

08-12-2023, 07:21 AM	#10
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,049	nevermind __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 Vert TR-6060 Sharkskin "Sharky" Firecracker Red Wrangler Willys, 3.6L eTorque, 850RE 8 speed automatic, 25W Willys package, Technology Group, Convenience Group (aka $600 garage door opener), Cold weather Group, Trailer Tow and HD electric group with AUX switches, 3 piece black freedom top.

08-13-2023, 11:03 AM	#13
SnakeEyeSS Drives: Camaro 2SS & ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 861	I think the mirror camera is hard to adjust to when you look at it. Maybe it's just me __________________ 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Bright Yellow NPP MRC 2023 Camaro ZL1 A10 Radiant Red

08-11-2023, 01:46 PM	#3
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	The cars Im looking at are out of warranty. Ive seen that running it manually will keep afm from engaging too. Is that accurate? Thanks for the reply. I'm looking at a 2016 right now.

08-11-2023, 01:54 PM	#4
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	This is the one I'm looking at right now. https://www.sunstateford.com/vehicle...--Orlando--FL/

08-11-2023, 02:22 PM	#6
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	Thanks for the info. I'm going to drive it.

08-11-2023, 08:10 PM	#8
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	I went and drove the 2016. I LOOOVED it. They also had a 2010 2SS, I drove it too. It was a manual, and having not driven a manual in at least 10 years, I stalled it twice, but goTdamn, did it throw me back in the seat. Either way, the manual is not for me. What I didn't realize, is that the mirror camera wasnt available until 2019. That was the thing I really want to see before I decide. Anyone have experience with these? Thanks, Bobby.

08-13-2023, 09:27 AM	#11
SurfAnimal Drives: Chevy Suburban Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: FL Posts: 24	His final number on the 2016 was $32,153. I countered with 24. Before I even got home, he texted that hed shave off 2K. No enough. 30k is just too much for a car with 80k on the clock. (As far as I'm concerned)

08-13-2023, 10:24 AM	#12
Plasar Drives: 2017 ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 486	Hi SurfAnimal. I hope you can connect with a Camaro that you like. Regarding pricing, I would use a web site like Kelly's Blue Book to see what range you are looking at in your geography, mileage, options, condition, etc. Otherwise, I suspect you are "guessing". https://www.kbb.com/chevrolet/camaro...6828058%7ctrue

08-13-2023, 11:58 AM	#14
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,824	To the Op, keep looking for a newer year Camaro with less mileage. You may have to pay more but might be worth the money in the long run especially if you plan to keep or hold on to it longer. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

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