T93 unlock now available from HPTuners!

jlaudio11 · 03-08-2023, 01:14 PM

https://www.hptuners.com/product/gm-t93-tcm-services/

Just saw this on a fb post and wanted to share. I didn't think we would see this day but trans tuning just got a lot cheaper!

KingLT1 · 03-08-2023, 02:37 PM

Only 3yrs later after hundreds if not more converted to a T87a. Better late then never I guess.

ShockingZ · 03-08-2023, 02:40 PM

SHUT THE **** UP. I Literally just did the T87A swap for my 21. Im bout to file suit, this is so infuriating. I wont obv, but man what about having the worst timing ever...

ShockingZ · 03-08-2023, 02:41 PM

Well I guess good for me though as I have a fresh locked T93 sitting on my shelf waiting for someone to buy and unlock so they can keep their stock one for warranty work...LOL

arpad_m · 03-08-2023, 03:58 PM

Wow, this is surprising, kudos to HP Tuners. Only works on Global A architecture vehicles, so clearly a last mohican of an unlock, but hey, if it works with our cars, it works

(I wonder how much cloud computing capacity they had to allocate to brute force the encryption

)

cjperformance · 03-08-2023, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Wow, this is surprising, kudos to HP Tuners. Only works on Global A architecture vehicles, so clearly a last mohican of an unlock, but hey, if it works with our cars, it works

(I wonder how much cloud computing capacity they had to allocate to brute force the encryption

)

3 years worth apparently!

GreenZLE · 03-08-2023, 05:32 PM

YES!!!!!!!!

6spdhyperblue · 03-08-2023, 06:19 PM

Oh dam. This might change my plans

I wonder what the tables are gonna look like

KingLT1 · 03-09-2023, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShockingZ

SHUT THE **** UP. I Literally just did the T87A swap for my 21. Im bout to file suit, this is so infuriating. I wont obv, but man what about having the worst timing ever...

Especially when Hp tuners stated numerous times they had no plans to ever support the T93.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Wow, this is surprising, kudos to HP Tuners. Only works on Global A architecture vehicles, so clearly a last mohican of an unlock, but hey, if it works with our cars, it works

(I wonder how much cloud computing capacity they had to allocate to brute force the encryption

)

My guess is that the company who cracked the C8 ECU(bench flash only) also figured out the T93 and HPt bought into the rights because again they said numerous times that they were not going to support the T93. Could be wrong though...just speculating.

*radz28* · 03-16-2023, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spdhyperblue

Oh dam. This might change my plans

I wonder what the tables are gonna look like

In conjunction with the latest parameter update HPTuners released for the T87A TCM, I think there are more parameters for the 10-speed than there were for the 8-speeds (https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...inition-revamp).

Most of them seem useful, at least to someone at my, newbie, level.

arpad_m · 03-16-2023, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz28

In conjunction with the latest parameter update HPTuners released for the T87A TCM, I think there are more parameters for the 10-speed than there were for the 8-speeds (https://forum.hptuners.com/showthrea...inition-revamp).

Most of them seem useful, at least to someone at my, newbie, level.

I see all these pages with my 8L90 (see below) and they're pretty comprehensive. Maybe their 10L90 support means more individual parameters, but I haven't seen a recent enough 10L90 trans tune file yet where these newly supported parameters are all captured.

Anyone wanting to upload their 10-speed trans tune to HPTuners' repository

?

ShockingZ · 03-16-2023, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I see all these pages with my 8L90 (see below) and they're pretty comprehensive. Maybe their 10L90 support means more individual parameters, but I haven't seen a recent enough 10L90 trans tune file yet where these newly supported parameters are all captured.

Anyone wanting to upload their 10-speed trans tune to HPTuners' repository

?

PM me your email.

*radz28* · 03-16-2023, 12:21 PM

I would, but for some reason, a later BETA screwed up my SHIFT RPM - PATTERN A, and made it "READ ONLY". Fortunately - I already adjusted it, but I have to remember to submit a HELP DESK TICKET tonight to get it fixed.

*radz28* · 08-28-2023, 07:30 AM

I just unlocked my T93 and installed it. There are a few differences in the T87a and T93s, at least for my car. They aren't milestone-must-have-type-improvements or anything though.

There are lots of small temperature/RPM-type differences in the definitions. Those tables, otherwise, are the same though. We're talking instead of 0* for the T87a, it will say 5*, for example, in the same cells. No biggie. It makes comparisons between the 2 look crazy, but otherwise - NO BIGGIE.

There are, also, more PATTERNS IN T93. Most of them probably don't apply, like PATTERN C under SHIFT SCHEDULING. I haven't spent much time to find where I could mess with PATTERN C, but I'm not too interested at this point. Under TM, there is a TORQUE REDUCTION for COAST DOWNSHIFTS, that has several more DEFINITIONS (e.g. CRUISE/ECO/QUICK SHIFT), but they aren't that interesting.

So - unless you have a specific situation where you NEED to run T93 in your car, and have already upgraded to T87a, I'm not sure it would be worth it. So far, there's no evidence altering any of the examples I listed (which, granted - are not all of them) that will enhance much of anything. BUT - that's for everyone else to decide. I just wanted to follow-up because I thought there could be a little more to add. This is still better than the T87a upgrade though - no doubt.

03-08-2023, 01:14 PM	#1
jlaudio11 Drives: Chevy Camaro Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: IN Posts: 291	T93 unlock now available from HPTuners! https://www.hptuners.com/product/gm-t93-tcm-services/ Just saw this on a fb post and wanted to share. I didn't think we would see this day but trans tuning just got a lot cheaper! __________________ '20 Camaro LT1 Twin 67/62 turbo 401(L8t) Texas speed forged piston & rod, BTR stg1 turbo cam, holley ultra lo, port injection, circle d 3600 stall, et street r’s on racestar recluse wheels. 1.33 3.75 5.75@122.98 1/8 pb 9.04@141 1/4 pb technically '94 Camaro Z28 6mt cc306 cam, 4:10's, longtubes with x pipe, otr intake

03-08-2023, 02:37 PM	#2
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03-08-2023, 06:19 PM	#8
6spdhyperblue Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,794	Oh dam. This might change my plans I wonder what the tables are gonna look like __________________ Last edited by 6spdhyperblue; 03-09-2023 at 03:46 AM.

03-16-2023, 12:21 PM	#13
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,855 View My Garage	I would, but for some reason, a later BETA screwed up my SHIFT RPM - PATTERN A, and made it "READ ONLY". Fortunately - I already adjusted it, but I have to remember to submit a HELP DESK TICKET tonight to get it fixed. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

03-08-2023, 02:40 PM	#3
ShockingZ Account Suspended Drives: Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Floriduh Posts: 121	SHUT THE **** UP. I Literally just did the T87A swap for my 21. Im bout to file suit, this is so infuriating. I wont obv, but man what about having the worst timing ever...

03-08-2023, 02:41 PM	#4
ShockingZ Account Suspended Drives: Chevy Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Floriduh Posts: 121	Well I guess good for me though as I have a fresh locked T93 sitting on my shelf waiting for someone to buy and unlock so they can keep their stock one for warranty work...LOL

03-08-2023, 05:32 PM	#7
GreenZLE Drives: 2020 Rally Green ZL1-1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: Illinois Posts: 509	YES!!!!!!!!

08-28-2023, 07:30 AM	#14
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,855 View My Garage	I just unlocked my T93 and installed it. There are a few differences in the T87a and T93s, at least for my car. They aren't milestone-must-have-type-improvements or anything though. There are lots of small temperature/RPM-type differences in the definitions. Those tables, otherwise, are the same though. We're talking instead of 0* for the T87a, it will say 5*, for example, in the same cells. No biggie. It makes comparisons between the 2 look crazy, but otherwise - NO BIGGIE. There are, also, more PATTERNS IN T93. Most of them probably don't apply, like PATTERN C under SHIFT SCHEDULING. I haven't spent much time to find where I could mess with PATTERN C, but I'm not too interested at this point. Under TM, there is a TORQUE REDUCTION for COAST DOWNSHIFTS, that has several more DEFINITIONS (e.g. CRUISE/ECO/QUICK SHIFT), but they aren't that interesting. So - unless you have a specific situation where you NEED to run T93 in your car, and have already upgraded to T87a, I'm not sure it would be worth it. So far, there's no evidence altering any of the examples I listed (which, granted - are not all of them) that will enhance much of anything. BUT - that's for everyone else to decide. I just wanted to follow-up because I thought there could be a little more to add. This is still better than the T87a upgrade though - no doubt. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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