Ordered new 2023 SS

Molinestud · 11-04-2022, 03:02 PM

Just ordered 2023 2SS
waiting for GM to accept order. Went with the convertible because my other car is a C8R coupe any options you wish you would have got on yours or options that were a waste? will have a chance to change order when accepted ordered with the Second generation side rocker moldings in Satin Black and thinking about changing to the Second generation ground effects in Carbon Flash Metallic not sure which to get? Thanks

2SS Capt · 11-04-2022, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molinestud

Just ordered 2023 2SS
waiting for GM to accept order. Went with the convertible because my other car is a C8R coupe any options you wish you would have got on yours or options that were a waste? will have a chance to change order when accepted ordered with the Second generation side rocker moldings in Satin Black and thinking about changing to the Second generation ground effects in Carbon Flash Metallic not sure which to get? Thanks

I would get Dual Mode Exhaust (NPP) and Magnetic Ride Control (MRC)...

BundiMan · 11-04-2022, 03:51 PM

I wasted $100 on the carbon fiber shifter cover. When you pick the vert option you lose out on PDR and eLSD. They are two thing I wish I had but the drop top was worth more to me.

Rock-It Man · 11-04-2022, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

I would get Dual Mode Exhaust (NPP) and Magnetic Ride Control (MRC)...

Interesting. I would pass on both. NPP has had its reliability problems (and why do you have to be so loud?) and MRC is overkill for most drivers as well as being very expensive to replace when worn out. Also MRC does not do well if your car is inactive for long periods of time. The magnetic particles settle out.

2SS Capt · 11-04-2022, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

Interesting. I would pass on both. NPP has had its reliability problems (and why do you have to be so loud?) and MRC is overkill for most drivers as well as being very expensive to replace when worn out. Also MRC does not do well if your car is inactive for long periods of time. The magnetic particles settle out.

Personal opinions... Not only do I like the controllable exhaust volume/tone, I really like to look of the quad pipes... I really like the Magnetic Ride Control, drives great on the highway in Tour and tightens up nicely in Sport and Track...

The Chief (tm) · 11-04-2022, 05:37 PM

The car I bought used -- also a convertible, but a 2016 -- has both NPP and MRC. Going in, I didn't care about NPP, but (thought I) did care a lot about MRC, to wit:

NPP: I toggle solely between "Stealth" -- which isn't very stealthy on first cold-start of the day BTW -- and "Tour". Anything louder is, to me, unnecessary, and louder than I'd want to hear coming from somebody *else's* car. Personally, would not pay for it brand-new.

MRC: very tough call here, so here's my first-hand experience: I drove three different, non-MRC, rental SS's for some 1,300 miles before I finally decided I was buying my own. Seemingly everywhere one looked, one read that MRC was indispensable. Having now driven both, I won't disagree that it does work very well, but at the same time, at no time with the rentals did I think that the handling of the non-MRC cars (including a convertible) was flabby, and perhaps even more telling, neither did my girlfriend think that they were *too stiff*. Just right for the car, in other words.

Now that I have a car with MRC, I leave the suspension in "Sport", and never touch it. You should search elsewhere here on the forum, but I'd guess that the non-MRC suspension probably feels a lot like, if ever-so-slightly more relaxed than "Sport"...IOW, pretty darned OK in most circumstances.

Neither observation even takes into account durability and/or replacement cost, as already commented upon.

Bottom line: if you ended up WITHOUT NPP and MRC, on a 2023 2SS, I cannot imagine you would feel you got hosed. Just my $0.02.

Callaway SC630 · 11-04-2022, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

Interesting. I would pass on both. NPP has had its reliability problems (and why do you have to be so loud?) and MRC is overkill for most drivers as well as being very expensive to replace when worn out. Also MRC does not do well if your car is inactive for long periods of time. The magnetic particles settle out.

Please show us some situations where NPP has failed and where magnetic ride has become ineffective from non-use. Asking for a friend...

LT4Greg · 11-04-2022, 07:10 PM

NPP and MRC are nice options and worth the extra money in my opinion.��

pzoom · 11-04-2022, 07:27 PM

Absolutely love the MRC and NPP. The change in ride and lower exhaust note on the highway is worth it.

MRC has been around for a long time, I can’t imagine it having a high failure rate. Same with a simple solenoid for NPP.

Rock-It Man · 11-04-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Callaway SC630

Please show us some situations where NPP has failed and where magnetic ride has become ineffective from non-use. Asking for a friend...

Search the forum regarding NPP failures. As for MRC, this technology is familiar to me from its use in aerospace applications, where the storage problem is well known.

Callaway SC630 · 11-04-2022, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock-It Man

Search the forum regarding NPP failures. As for MRC, this technology is familiar to me from its use in aerospace applications, where the storage problem is well known.

Not searching. Waiting for your research.

In the meantime, not hijacking the thread. Carry on.

arpad_m · 11-04-2022, 09:24 PM

NPP "failures" consist of valve rattling that has known fixes (see #1 and #2) and isn't that bad to begin with (my car had it, too, I fixed it, zero issues since then).

I don't feel any difference in the behavior of MRC since I bought my 2SS, and there were at least two winters when the car was stored for over 4 months. Given the construction of these magnetorheological dampers, it is plausible that particles would settle and stiffen up the suspension, but it hasn't happened on my car.

JoeCamaro444 · 11-04-2022, 11:13 PM

Wouldn’t order an SS without NPP, and I didn’t think MRC was a big loss, until my second 6th gen came with it. Now, it’s a non negotiable too.

SMURFSUP · 11-05-2022, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Personal opinions... Not only do I like the controllable exhaust volume/tone, I really like to look of the quad pipes... I really like the Magnetic Ride Control, drives great on the highway in Tour and tightens up nicely in Sport and Track...

I agree.. Its a personal thing for me also.. I couldn't imagine myself trying to keep a 6.2L quiet. Now I hate it when things get excessive but I love the sound of the exhaust on a 6.2 to be there when I put the pedal down.

The MRC was an awesome upgrade I thought for myself when I took out 1 with it and 1 without. I 100% noticed the difference.

11-04-2022, 03:51 PM	#3
BundiMan The Nights Watch Drives: 22 ZL1 M6 Vert Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 390 View My Garage	I wasted $100 on the carbon fiber shifter cover. When you pick the vert option you lose out on PDR and eLSD. They are two thing I wish I had but the drop top was worth more to me. __________________ Ordered 22 ZL1 Vert M6 Wild Cherry 2000 19 Jul 2021 3000 21 Jul 2021 TPW 8/23 24 Jul 2021 3400 30 Jul 2021 3800 26 Aug 2021 4000 1 Sep 2021 6000 14 Sep 2021 57 Days from accepted order to delivery. 19 Days from build to delivery.

11-04-2022, 05:37 PM	#6
The Chief (tm) Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS "Convertibobble" Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 280	The car I bought used -- also a convertible, but a 2016 -- has both NPP and MRC. Going in, I didn't care about NPP, but (thought I) did care a lot about MRC, to wit: NPP: I toggle solely between "Stealth" -- which isn't very stealthy on first cold-start of the day BTW -- and "Tour". Anything louder is, to me, unnecessary, and louder than I'd want to hear coming from somebody else's car. Personally, would not pay for it brand-new. MRC: very tough call here, so here's my first-hand experience: I drove three different, non-MRC, rental SS's for some 1,300 miles before I finally decided I was buying my own. Seemingly everywhere one looked, one read that MRC was indispensable. Having now driven both, I won't disagree that it does work very well, but at the same time, at no time with the rentals did I think that the handling of the non-MRC cars (including a convertible) was flabby, and perhaps even more telling, neither did my girlfriend think that they were too stiff. Just right for the car, in other words. Now that I have a car with MRC, I leave the suspension in "Sport", and never touch it. You should search elsewhere here on the forum, but I'd guess that the non-MRC suspension probably feels a lot like, if ever-so-slightly more relaxed than "Sport"...IOW, pretty darned OK in most circumstances. Neither observation even takes into account durability and/or replacement cost, as already commented upon. Bottom line: if you ended up WITHOUT NPP and MRC, on a 2023 2SS, I cannot imagine you would feel you got hosed. Just my $0.02. __________________ '16 2SS Garnet Red ~24K "Mods": GM wind deflector, home-made rear seat delete & platform, not-quite garnet red key fob cover (+10rwhp) '99 4Runner 367K '94 ST1100 146K

11-04-2022, 07:10 PM	#8
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,875	NPP and MRC are nice options and worth the extra money in my opinion.�� __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

11-04-2022, 09:24 PM	#12
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 13,450 View My Garage	NPP "failures" consist of valve rattling that has known fixes (see #1 and #2) and isn't that bad to begin with (my car had it, too, I fixed it, zero issues since then). I don't feel any difference in the behavior of MRC since I bought my 2SS, and there were at least two winters when the car was stored for over 4 months. Given the construction of these magnetorheological dampers, it is plausible that particles would settle and stiffen up the suspension, but it hasn't happened on my car. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle Terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

11-04-2022, 11:13 PM	#13
JoeCamaro444 Drives: 2018 2SS M6 Hot Wheels Camaro Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: MA Posts: 643	Wouldn’t order an SS without NPP, and I didn’t think MRC was a big loss, until my second 6th gen came with it. Now, it’s a non negotiable too. __________________ 2018 2SS M6 Hot Wheels Camaro loaded (Moonroof, Magnetic Ride Control, NPP, etc…) Previous cars: 2017 1SS Nightfall Gray Metallic w/A8 and NPP 1988 IROC-Z (tons of mods), 1995 Z28, 1998 Z28, 2006 GTO, 2010 Camaro 1SS, 2015 Subaru STI, a couple Acuras and multiple Jeeps.

11-04-2022, 03:02 PM	#1
Molinestud Drives: 2022 Corvette C8R, 2023 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: IL Posts: 3	Ordered new 2023 SS Just ordered 2023 2SS waiting for GM to accept order. Went with the convertible because my other car is a C8R coupe any options you wish you would have got on yours or options that were a waste? will have a chance to change order when accepted ordered with the Second generation side rocker moldings in Satin Black and thinking about changing to the Second generation ground effects in Carbon Flash Metallic not sure which to get? Thanks

11-04-2022, 07:27 PM	#9
pzoom Drives: 2021 SS 1LE SHOCK Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Austin Posts: 136	Absolutely love the MRC and NPP. The change in ride and lower exhaust note on the highway is worth it. MRC has been around for a long time, I can’t imagine it having a high failure rate. Same with a simple solenoid for NPP.

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