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Plugs.. Might switch back
Curious if you guys are running Brisk Silver tips or NGK Titanium plugs. Also, did you go 1 step or 2 steps colder?
My original shop did the NGK 1 step colder , but my last tuner switched them to the Brisk 2 steps colder.
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How much boost are you running? I’m at 10lbs on stock pulleys and still in stock heat range on NGK plugs.
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15 lbs
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
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I would run heat range 7 or maybe even 8's considering the power you are running. Considering the power you are working with here, I'd be more inclined to say you need heat range 8's.
I run NGK Ruthenium HR7 plugs, but I'm making somewhere in the high 5's to low 600's as far as power goes. Rule of thumb is 100 - 150 HP is the power window per each step in heat range until the next step up is needed.
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2017 Red Hot ZL1 A10 - Apex ARC-8's, 305/ 325 PS4's, DSX 9.06 12% lower, Griptec OE upper, NGK HR7 Ruthenium plugs, Nostrum 25+ injectors, XDI Goliath HPFP, Katech dual in tank LPFP, Katech oil pump, LME tensioner, DOD delete, LT1 big fuel cam, Jokerz ported blower, MPI lid, GMS hood extractor bracket, Granatelli SS plug wires, Cordes LTR reservoir, DMS T-stat housing, 186* LS3 T-stat, Borla X pipe, Black Widow Angry Housewife/ Corsa NPP mufflers, BMR engine mounts, Banks iDash, Lithium Battery, AEM X- Series, HP Tuners, E85, 16.5 psi
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I just looked up the ones in there now and they are the Brisk RR12S
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
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![]() ![]() Equates to NGK heat range 8 plugs. I noticed the Brisks are non projected tips, are you intent on running that brand?
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2017 Red Hot ZL1 A10 - Apex ARC-8's, 305/ 325 PS4's, DSX 9.06 12% lower, Griptec OE upper, NGK HR7 Ruthenium plugs, Nostrum 25+ injectors, XDI Goliath HPFP, Katech dual in tank LPFP, Katech oil pump, LME tensioner, DOD delete, LT1 big fuel cam, Jokerz ported blower, MPI lid, GMS hood extractor bracket, Granatelli SS plug wires, Cordes LTR reservoir, DMS T-stat housing, 186* LS3 T-stat, Borla X pipe, Black Widow Angry Housewife/ Corsa NPP mufflers, BMR engine mounts, Banks iDash, Lithium Battery, AEM X- Series, HP Tuners, E85, 16.5 psi
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No, not married to Brisk. Just recommend by last tuner. Unfortunately I have no idea what gap to run either as I didnt install either set.
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
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I'm running and satisfied with Brisk RR14S. Running around 15psi, gapped to 0.029" (from the stock 30-31 ish)
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And don't try to gap if you don't have the special tool for it on these platinum/ iridium/ ruthenium plugs or else you will scrape away their special coatings and make them no better than a copper plug. As for plugs, I've personally never ran a Brisk so I don't have a leg to stand when it comes to my experiences with them, but have nothing but stellar experiences with NGK. I was going to recommend you NGK Ruthenium's but they don't offer anything in the heat range you need in the spec our plugs come in, I run a LTR7BHX plug, I like them because they offer better knock resilience than their iridium counterparts and they have the projected square tips (PSPE) but 7's are the hottest ours offer. It's a toss up with what you want to do, but run an 8 in NGK (or a 12 in Brisk) and you should be good to go.
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2017 Red Hot ZL1 A10 - Apex ARC-8's, 305/ 325 PS4's, DSX 9.06 12% lower, Griptec OE upper, NGK HR7 Ruthenium plugs, Nostrum 25+ injectors, XDI Goliath HPFP, Katech dual in tank LPFP, Katech oil pump, LME tensioner, DOD delete, LT1 big fuel cam, Jokerz ported blower, MPI lid, GMS hood extractor bracket, Granatelli SS plug wires, Cordes LTR reservoir, DMS T-stat housing, 186* LS3 T-stat, Borla X pipe, Black Widow Angry Housewife/ Corsa NPP mufflers, BMR engine mounts, Banks iDash, Lithium Battery, AEM X- Series, HP Tuners, E85, 16.5 psi
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Jannetti has said he runs as much as .040 as far out as 14-pounds on well-tuned set-ups. While I'm not making the smoke as much as many of you guys, I'm around 15-16-psi regularly, and run a tiny bit more than that with no issues. Again - not quite the same power, but around the same boost.
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0.030 is stock LT4 gap size, not sure why you'd go out to 0.040". That size (0.040") is the LT-1 stock gap size, a NA motor.
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I don't see the need for a 8 heat range on a stock compression LT4 even @ 15psi. A 7 gapped around .030 should be fine.
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Appreciate all the feedback. I will pull one out and see how it looks and if i want to switch back to the NGK. I am a little concerned with the 2 steps colder fouling easier or at least more carbon build up. I will be curious to see how they look.
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Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup
Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 ** Born 3/17/17**Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. **807hp/762tq on 93 gas** and **848hp/792tq on e47** Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive |
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The bigger the flame, the better, and the better drivability, from what I've seen. I can attest to this experience, too.
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'20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs |
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