Catch Cans??

Husker67 · 11-29-2021, 10:22 PM

I remember when I had my '16 SS reading about this subject. What do you guys think about these? Need One??? Or just another hassle??

KyBoy · 11-29-2021, 10:24 PM

I think of a catch can like a gun. I'd rather have it and not need it vs need it and not have it.

We can see too far.

Spaceme1117 · 11-30-2021, 05:29 AM

Not a bad idea to have one. But the LT1 engine seems to not build up deposits on the back of the intake valves nowhere near as bad as other DI engines.

jamala00 · 11-30-2021, 06:30 AM

No catch can here. Not needed.

Drags1998 · 11-30-2021, 06:56 AM

IMHO its Not needed, I liked the GUN Idea!!!! It just seems to Me That There is alot of Expensive JUNK out there that is NOT NEEDED!!!! ( I am not calling out the Catchcan Makers) I'm talking the Whole Aftermarket Industry. They do a great job of selling us Sub par Products,AND We buy it!!!!

SJFGTO · 11-30-2021, 07:35 AM

Tons of threads on this. All the pros and cons are discussed and debated over and over. Do they work? Yes. Do you need one? No. I have one, ran one on my LS2 GTO as well. Always a couple table spoons of oil and impurities in the can every time I change the oil. Nice to see, but you can live without it.

Nothing like an SS · 11-30-2021, 07:36 AM

No, you don't need one.

hotlap · 11-30-2021, 07:37 AM

Not needed.

The LT1 has been in production since 2014 and photos of high mileage engines show that the valves are ~clean.

A catch-can can/will void your warranty. If not properly maintained, it will impede crankcase ventilation. The issue of the can filling, and preventing ventilation, is amplified in cold climates because the can will fill with condensation in one weeks time. I had this happen on my 16 and the oil became loaded to the point that my eyes burned when I drained it. Never again

dmcmahan60 · 11-30-2021, 08:02 AM

In the end , it is your car and investment. if it gives you piece of mind for a couple hundred dollars then do what you feel is right to you.

SSlow6 · 11-30-2021, 10:15 AM

I understand the reasoning for catch cans, but if they were so beneficial I always thought that OEMs would starting putting them on their engines.

arpad_m · 11-30-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SSlow6

I understand the reasoning for catch cans, but if they were so beneficial I always thought that OEMs would starting putting them on their engines.

This was discussed ad nauseam also. It would add another regular maintenance item that, when forgotten by the average user, could result in disaster. Also, if it's only beneficial for you, the customer, in extending your engine life and not reducing your performance post powertrain warranty, manufacturers wouldn't care much, would they. We are talking about GM that still uses halogen turn signal/reverse bulbs and refuses to install auto dimming on the passenger side mirror just to save a few pennies.

L78toLT1 · 11-30-2021, 11:55 AM

I've had the heads off of my motor at 16k and 33k miles. The deposits on the valves were noticeable, but not bad at 16k miles without a catch can - I've posted photos on several other catch can threads. The valves are noticeably cleaner after 17k miles with the can. It should be noted that the can was installed when I added the cam and blower, which should accelerate the formation of deposits.
As many have stated, the can is not a requirement, but it definitely does reduce the accumulation of deposits on the intake valves, which to many justifies the cost and the minor hassle of maintaining the can.

zxspeedspec · 11-30-2021, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arpad_m

This was discussed ad nauseam also. It would add another regular maintenance item that, when forgotten by the average user, could result in disaster. Also, if it's only beneficial for you, the customer, in extending your engine life and not reducing your performance post powertrain warranty, manufacturers wouldn't care much, would they. We are talking about GM that still uses halogen turn signal/reverse bulbs and refuses to install auto dimming on the passenger side mirror just to save a few pennies.

I would rather they cheap out a few pennies here and there and get a 650 horsepower package for $63,000. Ever think why they're the only manufacturer able to do this? Intelligent accounting practices and knowing where to "save a few pennies".

SSUNDVL · 11-30-2021, 12:34 PM

I had a lot of gunk on my valves when r&r the heads, was a pain to clean and put catch can on after. If you are FI you should have a catch can, small expense and reduces oil in the combustion process.

11-29-2021, 10:22 PM	#1
Husker67 Drives: '22 Camaro 2SS 1LE Wild Cherry Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 210 View My Garage	Catch Cans?? I remember when I had my '16 SS reading about this subject. What do you guys think about these? Need One??? Or just another hassle?? __________________

11-29-2021, 10:24 PM	#2
KyBoy Drives: '17 2SS H50 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Louisa, Ky Posts: 3,952	I think of a catch can like a gun. I'd rather have it and not need it vs need it and not have it. We can see too far. __________________ 2017 H50-2SS-MN6-F55-NPP-RIK-WL4-IO6 1100 - 5/26 0000 - Cancelled - 7/5 Contacted Becky - 7/1 2000 - 7/5 3000 - 7/6 3000 - 7/11 TPW 8/1 3100 - 7/18 TPW 8/1 3300 - 7/20 3400 - 7/21 Built - 8/2 - PS 1,182/1 of 699US 4300 - 8/3 5000 - 8/5 6000 - 8/13

11-30-2021, 07:35 AM	#6
SJFGTO Oh Oh it's Friday Night! Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Nightfall Gray Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Walton Woods Posts: 1,073	Tons of threads on this. All the pros and cons are discussed and debated over and over. Do they work? Yes. Do you need one? No. I have one, ran one on my LS2 GTO as well. Always a couple table spoons of oil and impurities in the can every time I change the oil. Nice to see, but you can live without it. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE NFG; ARH 2” headers, catless mids, ARH full exhaust, Lingenfelter 18% lower pulley, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Roto-fab CAI, EE-catch can, TM ported TB, NX Lid, BMR strut tower brace. Aeroforce dual pod interceptor gauges. Tuned by Vengeance Racing!!! 644 HP @ 6250 rpm / 689 trq @ 3660 rpm Four that wanna own me Two that wanna stone me One says she's a friend of mine...

11-30-2021, 07:37 AM	#8
hotlap Drives: 20 1LE 2SS M6 Rally Green Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Franklin WI Posts: 6,634	Not needed. The LT1 has been in production since 2014 and photos of high mileage engines show that the valves are ~clean. A catch-can can/will void your warranty. If not properly maintained, it will impede crankcase ventilation. The issue of the can filling, and preventing ventilation, is amplified in cold climates because the can will fill with condensation in one weeks time. I had this happen on my 16 and the oil became loaded to the point that my eyes burned when I drained it. Never again __________________ "the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Ronald Reagan -

11-30-2021, 11:55 AM	#12
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,810	I've had the heads off of my motor at 16k and 33k miles. The deposits on the valves were noticeable, but not bad at 16k miles without a catch can - I've posted photos on several other catch can threads. The valves are noticeably cleaner after 17k miles with the can. It should be noted that the can was installed when I added the cam and blower, which should accelerate the formation of deposits. As many have stated, the can is not a requirement, but it definitely does reduce the accumulation of deposits on the intake valves, which to many justifies the cost and the minor hassle of maintaining the can. __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

11-30-2021, 05:29 AM	#3
Spaceme1117 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS, 2011 Corvette GS Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erlanger, Kentucky 41018 Posts: 856	Not a bad idea to have one. But the LT1 engine seems to not build up deposits on the back of the intake valves nowhere near as bad as other DI engines.

11-30-2021, 06:30 AM	#4
jamala00 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Hyper Blue Metallic Join Date: May 2020 Location: WI Posts: 2,623	No catch can here. Not needed.

11-30-2021, 06:56 AM	#5
Drags1998 Drives: 15 SilveradoLTZ,162SSVert BlazerRS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Minot,Maine Posts: 644	IMHO its Not needed, I liked the GUN Idea!!!! It just seems to Me That There is alot of Expensive JUNK out there that is NOT NEEDED!!!! ( I am not calling out the Catchcan Makers) I'm talking the Whole Aftermarket Industry. They do a great job of selling us Sub par Products,AND We buy it!!!!

11-30-2021, 07:36 AM	#7
Nothing like an SS Faster!!! Drives: 2020 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,004	No, you don't need one.

11-30-2021, 08:02 AM	#9
dmcmahan60 Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Arab, AL Posts: 902 View My Garage	In the end , it is your car and investment. if it gives you piece of mind for a couple hundred dollars then do what you feel is right to you.

11-30-2021, 10:15 AM	#10
SSlow6 Drives: '11 BMW 328i, '22 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NW Chicago Burbs Posts: 83	I understand the reasoning for catch cans, but if they were so beneficial I always thought that OEMs would starting putting them on their engines.

11-30-2021, 12:34 PM	#14
SSUNDVL Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 149	I had a lot of gunk on my valves when r&r the heads, was a pain to clean and put catch can on after. If you are FI you should have a catch can, small expense and reduces oil in the combustion process.

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