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Valkyrie14 · 04-08-2020, 07:37 AM

I am planning my build and looking for some comments from people that are using or have used the cam they are commenting on. See my current bolt-ons in my signature. My plan is to purchase a cam kit so I will be upgrading the rods and springs when I swap the cam. Based upon another thread I am leaving the stock trunions in there.

My build is going to eventually get a supercharger so I want the cam I get now to work well with that down the road. This is a daily driver that will probably never see the track (not one anywhere near me). I want to maintain, if not improve low end power with the cam. I know the S.C. will give me that when I get there, but this car rarely goes above 5000 RPMs so power at the top of the range is wasted on me. I don’t want to battle the clutch when going under 25 mph. I am getting a HP tuner, and I know a lot of that will be on my tune, but I mention it to address the size of the cam question, I want something in the stage 2, or mild stage 3 range as long as I can still drive 25 mph. I am also not as concerned with adding sound, this is a performance upgrade, but in the right power band for me (2500).

Enough qualifying statements. I have been reading a lot of great threads on this forum and I have an idea of what I am looking for, but want to hear what has worked and what was learned from a daily driving perspective. I like the brands mentioned in the title of the post. So looking for comments on DD cam that will work with a SC. What I will need that is not in the typical kit, and anything else you wish you knew before you started.

zz430camaro · 04-08-2020, 07:44 AM

That is a very broad question. What kind of supercharger?

There is no one cam that does everything. I have a TSP Stage 1 LS3, 225/236 and it is a great DD cam. Makes within about 15 rwhp of larger cams but drives excellent and is a N/A cam. This cam would work better with a Pro-Charger style supercharger. It would work ok with a LSA style too but would not be optimal.

Greenhornet2 · 04-08-2020, 07:56 AM

If i were to do it again i would stay under .600 lift for spring life, i'm not looking forward to changing springs every 25k miles. I would call BTR and have them custom grind you a cam but they will want to know what kind of FI you will be running as well as other things. I would recommend trunion upgrade to CHE or btr v2 but that's your decision to make.
That being said my jre rough idle blower cam runs very well i can still cruise at 1600rpm with no bucking. The only time i notice there's a cam is the choppy idle and slow speed parking lot driving, have to use the clutch more. I also have to give her a little more rpm to take off from a stop smoothly. I haven't been to the dyno for the finished running yet though.

Juiced1 · 04-08-2020, 09:04 AM

There are plenty of options out there for you. My first question is on the supercharger. If you plan on going with a centrifugal then a N/A style cam would probably be best. It'll work great N/A and solid with your blower. If you plan on going with a roots blower a PD blower cam would suit you best. Give us a call and we'll get you set up right.

JLGO · 04-08-2020, 06:07 PM

Go with TSP, and a remote tuning from them also.

Valkyrie14 · 04-08-2020, 10:32 PM

I gotta say Lethal wins the marketing competition. The name Night Fury makes me want to get it in that alone. Looking at the specs though and some of the comments from those that have it is a bit aggressive for a DD. Not sure how well it matches up with a S.C., anyone have that set up?

frankwjr · 04-09-2020, 08:13 AM

Have PatG https://www.patgtuning.com/ spec a custom cam and then have Cam Motion grind it for you.

Good Luck!

PEACE

xc_SS/RS · 04-09-2020, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

I gotta say Lethal wins the marketing competition. The name Night Fury makes me want to get it in that alone. Looking at the specs though and some of the comments from those that have it is a bit aggressive for a DD. Not sure how well it matches up with a S.C., anyone have that set up?

What’s aggressive to one guy as a DD could seem stock to another. You’ll only know what/where your limit is after you drive a car with a different camshaft in it so don’t focus much on that

Lots of reviews on this site about this cam and I’d say most are positive. Type it into google and check some out

Valkyrie14 · 04-09-2020, 10:16 AM

I want to push the line between as much HP as I can without making it a pain to drive at 25 mph or in a parking lot. The SC down the road will really ramp things up, but in the meantime I am trying to build an engine that is fast and will accept the SC.
I went to PatG website, am I right that it will cost $40 for advice? I like the idea of getting a custom made cam, but I don't want to pay $40 to find out that a comp cam or TSP makes one with similar specs without the custom price.

Nb1081 · 04-10-2020, 09:53 AM

Tsp, gpi, cam motion, ljms,btr in no particular order

Avenging Orange · 04-10-2020, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valkyrie14

I want to push the line between as much HP as I can without making it a pain to drive at 25 mph or in a parking lot. The SC down the road will really ramp things up, but in the meantime I am trying to build an engine that is fast and will accept the SC.
I went to PatG website, am I right that it will cost $40 for advice? I like the idea of getting a custom made cam, but I don't want to pay $40 to find out that a comp cam or TSP makes one with similar specs without the custom price.

Again, most will want to know what SC. You cant "custom" anything until you have all the facts.
On that note.....if you want drive-ability.... why not keep stock cam?

Valkyrie14 · 04-10-2020, 04:29 PM

90% sure it will be a Whipple. I am looking at a cam for the added hp.

2011SSCT · 04-10-2020, 06:45 PM

I just had JRE's blower cam installed in my car knowing I'd be doing the Whipple in a couple months. Yes, spending all that cash at once would have had me in divorce court....lol. I'm an auto so I obviously had the L99 to LS3 conversion too. I thought I'd be trading some drivability for HP, but my car runs and drives better than it did before. I know we're comparing apples to oranges because I'm an auto, but the JRE cam produced amazing numbers for an auto.

ABM Camaro · 04-10-2020, 07:41 PM

Most of the companies listed carry comp cams ground for their shop with minimal difference between each of them.

Just reach out for Comp Cams and have a truely custom grind cam for you. They also have plenty off the shelf cams they ship to shops with cool names

https://www.compcams.com/cam-recommendation-form

04-08-2020, 07:37 AM	#1
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	Picking a camshaft: TSP, JRE, Comp and Lethal I am planning my build and looking for some comments from people that are using or have used the cam they are commenting on. See my current bolt-ons in my signature. My plan is to purchase a cam kit so I will be upgrading the rods and springs when I swap the cam. Based upon another thread I am leaving the stock trunions in there. My build is going to eventually get a supercharger so I want the cam I get now to work well with that down the road. This is a daily driver that will probably never see the track (not one anywhere near me). I want to maintain, if not improve low end power with the cam. I know the S.C. will give me that when I get there, but this car rarely goes above 5000 RPMs so power at the top of the range is wasted on me. I don’t want to battle the clutch when going under 25 mph. I am getting a HP tuner, and I know a lot of that will be on my tune, but I mention it to address the size of the cam question, I want something in the stage 2, or mild stage 3 range as long as I can still drive 25 mph. I am also not as concerned with adding sound, this is a performance upgrade, but in the right power band for me (2500). Enough qualifying statements. I have been reading a lot of great threads on this forum and I have an idea of what I am looking for, but want to hear what has worked and what was learned from a daily driving perspective. I like the brands mentioned in the title of the post. So looking for comments on DD cam that will work with a SC. What I will need that is not in the typical kit, and anything else you wish you knew before you started. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-08-2020, 07:44 AM	#2
zz430camaro Drives: 2015 1LE Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1,485	That is a very broad question. What kind of supercharger? There is no one cam that does everything. I have a TSP Stage 1 LS3, 225/236 and it is a great DD cam. Makes within about 15 rwhp of larger cams but drives excellent and is a N/A cam. This cam would work better with a Pro-Charger style supercharger. It would work ok with a LSA style too but would not be optimal. __________________ 2015 1LE, TSP 225/236 113+3, VMAX Throttle Body, CAI with race scoop, GPI Ported Intake, Land Speed Stage 2 Heads, 1-7/8 headers, NPP exhaust, 25% Fluidampr, LT1-S Monster Clutch, 485 RWHP & 444 TQ

04-08-2020, 07:56 AM	#3
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	If i were to do it again i would stay under .600 lift for spring life, i'm not looking forward to changing springs every 25k miles. I would call BTR and have them custom grind you a cam but they will want to know what kind of FI you will be running as well as other things. I would recommend trunion upgrade to CHE or btr v2 but that's your decision to make. That being said my jre rough idle blower cam runs very well i can still cruise at 1600rpm with no bucking. The only time i notice there's a cam is the choppy idle and slow speed parking lot driving, have to use the clutch more. I also have to give her a little more rpm to take off from a stop smoothly. I haven't been to the dyno for the finished running yet though. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane Last edited by Greenhornet2; 04-08-2020 at 10:30 AM.

04-08-2020, 10:32 PM	#6
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	I gotta say Lethal wins the marketing competition. The name Night Fury makes me want to get it in that alone. Looking at the specs though and some of the comments from those that have it is a bit aggressive for a DD. Not sure how well it matches up with a S.C., anyone have that set up? __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-09-2020, 08:13 AM	#7
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Have PatG https://www.patgtuning.com/ spec a custom cam and then have Cam Motion grind it for you. Good Luck! PEACE __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

04-08-2020, 09:04 AM	#4
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,663	There are plenty of options out there for you. My first question is on the supercharger. If you plan on going with a centrifugal then a N/A style cam would probably be best. It'll work great N/A and solid with your blower. If you plan on going with a roots blower a PD blower cam would suit you best. Give us a call and we'll get you set up right.

04-08-2020, 06:07 PM	#5
JLGO Drives: 2015 Camaro SS convertible L99 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 245	Go with TSP, and a remote tuning from them also.

04-09-2020, 10:16 AM	#9
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	I want to push the line between as much HP as I can without making it a pain to drive at 25 mph or in a parking lot. The SC down the road will really ramp things up, but in the meantime I am trying to build an engine that is fast and will accept the SC. I went to PatG website, am I right that it will cost $40 for advice? I like the idea of getting a custom made cam, but I don't want to pay $40 to find out that a comp cam or TSP makes one with similar specs without the custom price. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-10-2020, 09:53 AM	#10
Nb1081 Drives: 10 2ss/rs Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Shelby ny Posts: 436	Tsp, gpi, cam motion, ljms,btr in no particular order __________________ [/SIGPIC]10 2ss ls3 sw long tubes,cai intake,phastek scoop,se3" exhaust,elite e2, bw stg2tb, tsp f35, motive 4.10 lpw cover, 15" conversion, 510whp tuned by john donovan

04-10-2020, 04:29 PM	#12
Valkyrie14 Valkyrie14 Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 962	90% sure it will be a Whipple. I am looking at a cam for the added hp. __________________ 2014 SS LS3/LSA Supercharger, 10% Super Damper, 2.55 upper, AGP Dual Pump, ID 1050 injectors, Pegasus solid rear cradle bushings, LT Headers, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite E2 catch can, E85 corn fed, 160 Thermostat, Monster Twin Disk, MGW Short Throw shifter, Tick Clutch Master Cylinder, HP Tuners, JL Audio system.

04-10-2020, 06:45 PM	#13
2011SSCT Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Milford, CT Posts: 43	I just had JRE's blower cam installed in my car knowing I'd be doing the Whipple in a couple months. Yes, spending all that cash at once would have had me in divorce court....lol. I'm an auto so I obviously had the L99 to LS3 conversion too. I thought I'd be trading some drivability for HP, but my car runs and drives better than it did before. I know we're comparing apples to oranges because I'm an auto, but the JRE cam produced amazing numbers for an auto. __________________ L99 to LS3, Whipple 2.9 Blower with 3.750 pulley, ID1050x injectors, JRE Rough Idle Blower Cam, BTR Bronze Bushing Trunnion Kit , JRE/BTR .660 Springs, BTR Pushrods, Melling High Volume Oil Pump, ZL1 Fuel Pump, JRE FPCM, JMS BAP, JRE 90MM Ported Throttle Body Circle D 3200 Stall Converter, Ceramic Coated Kooks Long Tubes, Kooks Full Exhaust with Hi Flow Cats, Cold Air Inductions Intake With JRE Scoop, JRE Built Rear Differential with Billet Caps, 3:91 Gears and Eaton TrueTrac Posi, JRE Dyno Tune, Moroso Wires, Moroso Catch Can, Factory Reproductions Gloss Black ZL1 Wheels. 659WHP/566TQ

04-10-2020, 07:41 PM	#14
ABM Camaro Drives: 2013 ZL1 A6 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 171	Most of the companies listed carry comp cams ground for their shop with minimal difference between each of them. Just reach out for Comp Cams and have a truely custom grind cam for you. They also have plenty off the shelf cams they ship to shops with cool names https://www.compcams.com/cam-recommendation-form __________________ 2013 ZL1 Camaro A6. ARH Headers, K&N intake, Tuned by Tampa Tuning 2014 V6 Camaro bolt ons and E85 Tuned by Tampa Tuning