Dealership Says Not Factory Door??

actor2120 · 05-15-2019, 09:59 AM

Took my 6th gen vert into the dealership to investigate why water has been leaking in around my passenger window. They took the door panel off and told me that because it's not completely body colored on the inside (garnet red), it appears this is not the original factory passenger door and was probably taken from a black Camaro and painted red. (See attached photo.) They are saying because of this, the fitment on the door isn't correct, causing the leaking. I bought the vehicle used, so I don't know if this is the original door or not, but I don't recall seeing anything on the Carfax relating to the passenger side. I'm trying to confirm this theory. Does anyone know if for sure the door would be completely red inside and out if it was the original? Help greatly appreciated!

Umbriel · 05-15-2019, 10:57 AM

Man dealerships will try anything and everything to deny warranty work on vehicles.

Jeb114 · 05-15-2019, 11:03 AM

Doors and Bodies are dipped at the factory that door was sprayed. Looks like the door was replaced..

cellsafemode · 05-15-2019, 11:06 AM

I think the primer color is more of a beige tan. So maybe they are right.

ElwoodBlues · 05-15-2019, 11:09 AM

Pull the panel on the other door and see if they match.

avalonandl · 05-15-2019, 11:09 AM

unfortunately you find that Carfax is not always complete and accurate. Contact place you bought it from.

Adjusting a door can be tricky, but not that much. Why they won't do it on warranty is BS.

EDIT: Aren't there VIN or ID numbs stamped on these?

MP3BOOSTED · 05-15-2019, 11:10 AM

go to a different dealer.

actor2120 · 05-15-2019, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avalonandl

unfortunately you find that Carfax is not always complete and accurate. Contact place you bought it from.

Adjusting a door can be tricky, but not that much. Why they won't do it on warranty is BS.

I will try contacting the dealership I bought it from, but I doubt I'll get any help from them, since I purchased the vehicle over a year ago. The dealership that looked at the car said that I need to take it to a body shop, because if you move the door up to fit better around the window, it opens a gap at the bottom for water to enter.

cellsafemode · 05-15-2019, 11:26 AM

Wouldn't that indicate frame damage?

The door is a door. They're the same size for all Camaro's.

actor2120 · 05-15-2019, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

Wouldn't that indicate frame damage?

The door is a door. They're the same size for all Camaro's.

Yeah, he said they probably need to adjust the frame to better fit the door. I don't know what that entails, but is sounds pricey.

GearheadSS · 05-15-2019, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeb114

Doors and Bodies are dipped at the factory that door was sprayed. Looks like the door was replaced..

I agree.

TheWiseWolf · 05-15-2019, 11:40 AM

I wouldnt believe carfax

I did a carfax on my honda accord and it has no record of an accident.

However I was in an accident years ago where I had to replace my bumper and trunk.

Umbriel · 05-15-2019, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWiseWolf

I wouldnt believe carfax

I did a carfax on my honda accord and it has no record of an accident.

However I was in an accident years ago where I had to replace my bumper and trunk.

Yeah carfax doesn't have everything on it. I had a 2010 Civic Si that got sideswiped and when the body shop did the work it had bondo on it and had been repainted from a prior accident, totally clean carfax.

TJay74 · 05-15-2019, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeb114

Doors and Bodies are dipped at the factory that door was sprayed. Looks like the door was replaced..

No they not, the only time the car is dipped is for the EPO coating, otherwise the cars are sprayed by robotic painters just like any body shop would do other than the use an electrical charge to draw the paint to the panels.

05-15-2019, 09:59 AM	#1
actor2120 Drives: 2017 2SS Garnet Red Convertible Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 47	Dealership Says Not Factory Door?? Took my 6th gen vert into the dealership to investigate why water has been leaking in around my passenger window. They took the door panel off and told me that because it's not completely body colored on the inside (garnet red), it appears this is not the original factory passenger door and was probably taken from a black Camaro and painted red. (See attached photo.) They are saying because of this, the fitment on the door isn't correct, causing the leaking. I bought the vehicle used, so I don't know if this is the original door or not, but I don't recall seeing anything on the Carfax relating to the passenger side. I'm trying to confirm this theory. Does anyone know if for sure the door would be completely red inside and out if it was the original? Help greatly appreciated! Attached Images

05-15-2019, 11:09 AM	#6
avalonandl Drives: 2019 ZL-1 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Troy, MI & Naples, FL Posts: 2,018	unfortunately you find that Carfax is not always complete and accurate. Contact place you bought it from. Adjusting a door can be tricky, but not that much. Why they won't do it on warranty is BS. EDIT: Aren't there VIN or ID numbs stamped on these? __________________ 2019 ZL-1 Acquired 4/23/21 at 6300 miles. Riverside Blue, A10, PDR. Traded in 2017 2SS with 6M and 32k miles. Continental Extreme Contact Sports. Now has 10,000 miles... 2012 Yukon XL Denali w/ 6.2 AWD

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05-15-2019, 10:57 AM	#2
Umbriel Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Bartlett, TN Posts: 1,121	Man dealerships will try anything and everything to deny warranty work on vehicles.

05-15-2019, 11:03 AM	#3
Jeb114 Drives: 2021 300 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Jersey Posts: 968	Doors and Bodies are dipped at the factory that door was sprayed. Looks like the door was replaced..

05-15-2019, 11:06 AM	#4
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,514	I think the primer color is more of a beige tan. So maybe they are right.

05-15-2019, 11:09 AM	#5
ElwoodBlues Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 49	Pull the panel on the other door and see if they match.

05-15-2019, 11:26 AM	#9
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,514	Wouldn't that indicate frame damage? The door is a door. They're the same size for all Camaro's.

05-15-2019, 11:40 AM	#12
TheWiseWolf Drives: Camaro Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 138	I wouldnt believe carfax I did a carfax on my honda accord and it has no record of an accident. However I was in an accident years ago where I had to replace my bumper and trunk.

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