Anyone know what this button is for?

Redmoe · 07-21-2017, 11:21 PM

Hi all

Just picked up my white 2017 2ss a few days ago and was wondering if anyone knows what this button is for? Looks like some thing the dealer added.

Thanks

slick3 · 07-21-2017, 11:24 PM

Idk but I would ask for it to be removed. Do you have credit issues, might be so the repo guy could find you. Joking, but no seriously.

Redmoe · 07-21-2017, 11:31 PM

No credit issues lol. The car was on the show room so it may be some security device. Sucks that they drilled it into the plastic.

Redmoe · 07-21-2017, 11:46 PM

I finally found a similar pic apparently it is an add on alarm from a company called karr. I have no idea how to tell if it is active.

ninetres · 07-22-2017, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Redmoe

I finally found a similar pic apparently it is an add on alarm from a company called karr. I have no idea how to tell if it is active.

My wife's company car (Nissan Rogue) had one of those installed from the dealership in San Diego. Many dealers install them on ALL cars before they hit the lot. Just a sham for them to make more profit. I would be LIVID if they didn't fully disclose that, and shown you where they drilled into your new car BEFORE purchase.

RenegadeXR · 07-22-2017, 01:57 AM

Yeah, somebody posted a picture of an identical unit hidden under his dash. It's a Karr alarm. I think he went back to the dealership and complained for modifying his car before purchase.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9093037

On a side note: The original pics are currently gone because the Photobucket image hosting service is now running ads for all images linked remotely, which they are getting a lot of crap for, but trust me. Back when the photos were still there, it was identical to what you just snapped pictures of.

Article on another site with pics of the Karr system and the tangled mess that is its wiring system. It's a bottom shelf alarm system. Total piece of junk.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...rm-dealership/

I would complain. At very least, ask to get it removed and replace anything they had to drill into for the install. Teach them a lesson by having them spend more money to fix it than it was worth to them in the first place.

Obzen · 07-22-2017, 02:00 AM

Yep. It's an alarm. Our Durango has the same thing. Some dealerships put them on. If you don't buy their alarm they don't "activate" it.

Kind of a shitty practice.

cellsafemode · 07-22-2017, 02:03 AM

What's funny is this would be seen as a potential reason to deny warranty work if you ended up needing any done on whatever that is spliced into. Just like they would try to do if you were splicing wires yourself.

I'd be pissed if I found that after buying. It's completely unnecessary

fastball · 07-22-2017, 03:15 AM

I'd be PISSED!!!! Take it back, tell them to remove the ENTIRE Karr alarm system, and replace your dash panel with a brand new one with no screw holes.

If they give you crap about it tell them you'll give them all zeroes on their survey if they don't. Then give them all zeroes on their survey if they don't.

_MerF_ · 07-22-2017, 04:44 AM

Yeah that is pretty unnerving.

Gunkk · 07-22-2017, 05:34 AM

Strap a battery to that bitch and mail it around the world!

BrianInJackson · 07-22-2017, 07:14 AM

Double check your paperwork... to make sure you didn't pay to have that thing installed.

Redmoe · 07-22-2017, 08:33 AM

Funny part is that they didn't even try to sell the activation to me. They had a ton of showroom "upgrades" that I refused to pay for. I am going to see if I can get them to remove it. Only problem is that with it there it is obvious why the wiring was modified and these things are pretty much a dealer only add on. If I ever had a warranty issue that may provide the evidence to hold the dealer accountable.

Glen e · 07-22-2017, 08:37 AM

This karr unit is not so much as a profit item for the dealer, or a feature for the customer, rather a tool that dealers used to keep track of inventory on the lot. Most dealers of any size store new car inventory on three or four local lots, like the cars you see near the airport. The karr system does do a locate.

07-21-2017, 11:21 PM	#1
Redmoe Drives: 2022 Vivid Orange ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Az Posts: 71	Anyone know what this button is for? Hi all Just picked up my white 2017 2ss a few days ago and was wondering if anyone knows what this button is for? Looks like some thing the dealer added. Thanks Attached Images

07-22-2017, 01:57 AM	#6
RenegadeXR Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,850	Yeah, somebody posted a picture of an identical unit hidden under his dash. It's a Karr alarm. I think he went back to the dealership and complained for modifying his car before purchase. http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9093037 On a side note: The original pics are currently gone because the Photobucket image hosting service is now running ads for all images linked remotely, which they are getting a lot of crap for, but trust me. Back when the photos were still there, it was identical to what you just snapped pictures of. Article on another site with pics of the Karr system and the tangled mess that is its wiring system. It's a bottom shelf alarm system. Total piece of junk. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...rm-dealership/ I would complain. At very least, ask to get it removed and replace anything they had to drill into for the install. Teach them a lesson by having them spend more money to fix it than it was worth to them in the first place. __________________ Disclaimer: Unless specific sources are cited, all of the above is my subjective opinion. No warranties, expressed or implied, are granted. This is a car forum, after all.

07-22-2017, 04:44 AM	#10
_MerF_ Drives: 2017 1LT A8 (SIM) Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 73	Yeah that is pretty unnerving. __________________ 2017 1LT (A8): 30% tint - Tinted taillights - Blackened bowties - Muffler delete

07-22-2017, 08:37 AM	#14
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	This karr unit is not so much as a profit item for the dealer, or a feature for the customer, rather a tool that dealers used to keep track of inventory on the lot. Most dealers of any size store new car inventory on three or four local lots, like the cars you see near the airport. The karr system does do a locate. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

07-21-2017, 11:24 PM	#2
slick3 Drives: Garnet Red - 20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,010	Idk but I would ask for it to be removed. Do you have credit issues, might be so the repo guy could find you. Joking, but no seriously.

07-21-2017, 11:31 PM	#3
Redmoe Drives: 2022 Vivid Orange ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Az Posts: 71	No credit issues lol. The car was on the show room so it may be some security device. Sucks that they drilled it into the plastic.

07-21-2017, 11:46 PM	#4
Redmoe Drives: 2022 Vivid Orange ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Az Posts: 71	I finally found a similar pic apparently it is an add on alarm from a company called karr. I have no idea how to tell if it is active.

07-22-2017, 02:00 AM	#7
Obzen Pull up Cougar! Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,875	Yep. It's an alarm. Our Durango has the same thing. Some dealerships put them on. If you don't buy their alarm they don't "activate" it. Kind of a shitty practice.

07-22-2017, 02:03 AM	#8
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,522	What's funny is this would be seen as a potential reason to deny warranty work if you ended up needing any done on whatever that is spliced into. Just like they would try to do if you were splicing wires yourself. I'd be pissed if I found that after buying. It's completely unnecessary

07-22-2017, 03:15 AM	#9
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,361	I'd be PISSED!!!! Take it back, tell them to remove the ENTIRE Karr alarm system, and replace your dash panel with a brand new one with no screw holes. If they give you crap about it tell them you'll give them all zeroes on their survey if they don't. Then give them all zeroes on their survey if they don't.

07-22-2017, 05:34 AM	#11
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 5,183 View My Garage	Strap a battery to that bitch and mail it around the world!

07-22-2017, 07:14 AM	#12
BrianInJackson Drives: toyota mr2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jackson, Ca Posts: 99	Double check your paperwork... to make sure you didn't pay to have that thing installed.

07-22-2017, 08:33 AM	#13
Redmoe Drives: 2022 Vivid Orange ZL1 Vert M6 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Az Posts: 71	Funny part is that they didn't even try to sell the activation to me. They had a ton of showroom "upgrades" that I refused to pay for. I am going to see if I can get them to remove it. Only problem is that with it there it is obvious why the wiring was modified and these things are pretty much a dealer only add on. If I ever had a warranty issue that may provide the evidence to hold the dealer accountable.

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