[MAGAUSA]

As a former Audi driver, I've bought products from awe-tuning.com, including a valved exhaust for my RS4 and they were great. They have now gotten into domestic cars with the Mustang and are looking at other US cars to get into. They are a reputable tuner with proven results in Audi Porsche and others. They focus on specific models and do not drone, rather than blowing out exhausts for anything with an engine.

I encourage anyone interested in helping the Camaro community break out of the space we are in to look at this company and email/call them to ask them to develop a Camaro exhaust.

We deserve more and better options than what we currently have. It's truly disappointing when looking at the exhaust options for this car.

[TJay74]

As an owner of a 2016 Audi SQ5 who has looked at a AWE tuning option, no way Camaro owners are going to pay $1500 for a AWE tune or $2k for their cat-back exhaust systems. Sure I did on our SQ5 because there are only 2 people who tune Audi's, but there are tones of people who tune GM vehicles using HP Tuners and EFiLive.

To be honest the quality of the AWE Touring system I have on our SQ5 is no better than any other cat-back system I have used over the years. If anything AWE has been somewhat a pain to deal with on some issues with the black coated tips I paid extra for in that they cant get a set that the coating lasts longer than 2 months before it flakes off. Their only answer was to swap me out for chrome ones and then fight me for a refund on the up charge for the black ones.

[MAGAUSA]

Their mustang exhausts are at the same price levels as all of these here. I've never had a problem with them. I'm sure many have had problems with every business in existence.

[Red Lightening]

Just installed the AWE Touring, and it is has a superior "aggressive"sound compared with the stock NPP system. Yea, I know, many would say why switch on a $900 NPP option? A) it came with the car I purchased on lot. B) I always drive in sport or track mode to get a more aggressive sound. Price point is also competitive at $1,245 and the quality equal or better than the B, C, MF, ect. The fit, installation and packaging are second to none, (I know the competition does a good job as well based on posts I read, there simply were no issues)! 4.5" Black diamond tips are a big bonus as well!
I highly recommend Matt at Wildhammer Motorsports:
https://wildhammermotorsports.com/ca...st-awe-tuning/

[Josh/AWE]

Whoa. I'm just seeing this. What a crazy coincidence!

[glenB]

Originally Posted by Red Lightening

Just installed the AWE Touring, and it is has a superior "aggressive"sound compared with the stock NPP system. Yea, I know, many would say why switch on a $900 NPP option? A) it came with the car I purchased on lot. B) I always drive in sport or track mode to get a more aggressive sound. Price point is also competitive at $1,245 and the quality equal or better than the B, C, MF, ect. The fit, installation and packaging are second to none, (I know the competition does a good job as well based on posts I read, there simply were no issues)! 4.5" Black diamond tips are a big bonus as well!
I highly recommend Matt at Wildhammer Motorsports:
https://wildhammermotorsports.com/ca...st-awe-tuning/

IMO the tips stick out too far and the "superior aggressive sound" over the NPP is subjective . The NPP has to meet many things, the aftermarket doesn't

[gaveup]

I remember when I have my previous car (mk7 golf r) and saw the prices on their cat backs. While they are nice (the switch path was a good idea), I could never justify spending that much on an exhaust. I was always told it was the German car tax and all of that....and here we are now.

Just watched their video for their exhausts on the camaro, and they do sound good.

Quite a bit of money for bent pipes, but that’s just my opinion.

[Whocares05050]

Originally Posted by gaveup

I remember when I have my previous car (mk7 golf r) and saw the prices on their cat backs. While they are nice (the switch path was a good idea), I could never justify spending that much on an exhaust. I was always told it was the German car tax and all of that....and here we are now.

Just watched their video for their exhausts on the camaro, and they do sound good.

Quite a bit of money for bent pipes, but that’s just my opinion.

Exactly. And considering people on here non stop say that cat backs add zero HP on the dnyo heading to a local muffle shop and 300-500 bucks would get you what you want if sound is all youre getting anyhow.... 2k for exhaust to look pretty under the car is crazy. Considering how little it cost in materials they are making 500 % profits after everything is said and done.

[JonD]

Those that want a quality system & can afford it will buy the higher end systems.

This is the same for just about every product on the market so... :shrug:

[777]

Originally Posted by Whocares05050

Exactly. And considering people on here non stop say that cat backs add zero HP on the dnyo heading to a local muffle shop and 300-500 bucks would get you what you want if sound is all youre getting anyhow.... 2k for exhaust to look pretty under the car is crazy. Considering how little it cost in materials they are making 500 % profits after everything is said and done.

While I agree with your point of spending a lot of money on an exhaust, there's a lot more that goes into designing something than raw material and machining costs. As with most products, a lot of what you are paying for is the R&D to create the product in the first place.

[gaveup]

Originally Posted by 777

While I agree with your point of spending a lot of money on an exhaust, there's a lot more that goes into designing something than raw material and machining costs. As with most products, a lot of what you are paying for is the R&D to create the product in the first place.

Of course there is R&D, but don’t get it twisted like there’s a bunch of scientists and sound engineers sitting in a board room trying to get the best possible sound and flow from X exhaust.

A jig is created and prototypes are usually sent out to their manufacturer. Another prototype is sent back, test fitted and if it meets expeditions an order is placed. Many, many exhaust companies do this and can charge whatever they want for it, if people believe they are getting a quality product they will pay more for it.

It’s almost like auto detailing products, most of them are just rebottled from a manufacturer and sold at higher costs based on their packaging.

[TDS911]

Originally Posted by gaveup

Of course there is R&D, but don’t get it twisted like there’s a bunch of scientists and sound engineers sitting in a board room trying to get the best possible sound and flow from X exhaust.

A jig is created and prototypes are usually sent out to their manufacturer. Another prototype is sent back, test fitted and if it meets expeditions an order is placed. Many, many exhaust companies do this and can charge whatever they want for it, if people believe they are getting a quality product they will pay more for it.

It’s almost like auto detailing products, most of them are just rebottled from a manufacturer and sold at higher costs based on their packaging.

I’ve personally been involved with AWE in developing an exhaust for a Porsche, using my car as first article, and I’ve watched them do exactly what you describe above: team meetings to evaluate and refine the sound, and multiple prototypes made by their R&D team to test on the road and their dyno. They had my car for about 6 weeks to do the initial work, and I had to come back for the final product after they did fixture finalization.

They also make all their own fixtures and do all the manufacturing in house. They have multiple mandrel benders, laser scan tool for CAD, robotic cutting cells, they also make their own mufflers. They don’t outsource or skimp on the design, I’m sure their overhead is quite high, but they seem to use it efficiently as possible. Check out their online headquarters tour, these guys are the real deal, imo.

[JonD]

Originally Posted by gaveup

It’s almost like auto detailing products, most of them are just rebottled from a manufacturer and sold at higher costs based on their packaging.

Sorry not sorry this couldn’t be farther from the fact as the welds, fitment & a other factors are at play with exhaust but hey if it makes people feel better to defend their muffler shop exhaust systems whatever...

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Josh/AWE

Whoa. I'm just seeing this. What a crazy coincidence!

Yeah, we've been waiting a while...