2017 1SS 1LE beats 2014 Z28 at the track

Ace01 · 03-12-2017, 04:44 PM

2017 1SS 1LE is an amazing bargain.

doc7000 · 03-12-2017, 05:28 PM

This is kind of old news, the SS 1LE put down a faster lap time at Leguna Seca then did the 5th generation Z/28 Camaro. However it must be pointed out that this isn't a same day test as conditions can/will impact lap times.

At VIR the Z/28 ran a 2:50.90 while the 2017 SS 1LE ran a 2:54.80 and for science the ATS V coupe ran a 2:59.20.

laynlo15 · 03-12-2017, 06:43 PM

Even though it wasn't the same day, the 17 is a much better ride then the Z28. Weight, power to weight. Its just a wicked Gen6 for the money.

Ace01 · 03-12-2017, 06:54 PM

Another review

glenB · 03-12-2017, 09:31 PM

Sounds like adolescent cock fighting

glamcem · 03-12-2017, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc7000

This is kind of old news, the SS 1LE put down a faster lap time at Leguna Seca then did the 5th generation Z/28 Camaro. However it must be pointed out that this isn't a same day test as conditions can/will impact lap times.

At VIR the Z/28 ran a 2:50.90 while the 2017 SS 1LE ran a 2:54.80 and for science the ATS V coupe ran a 2:59.20.

That is true, conditions are very important but same can be said for the VIR times. In fact temp and overall conditions are a lot more stable in CA tracks vs the east coast tracks like VIR.

Also, C&D editors are not pro/race driver who can put very consistent lap times like Randy Pobst and who knows who drove that Z28 in what condition and who drove the new 1LE.

Laguna Seca is not the only track that the Gen 5 Z28 gets beaten by the 2017 1LE also:

See below link for the Big Willow lap times. Take a look at the #17 and 18. It says the 1LE driver is unknown but it's Randy Pobst, it's been discussed on MT:
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

Ace01 · 03-13-2017, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamcem

That is true, conditions are very important but same can be said for the VIR times. In fact temp and overall conditions are a lot more stable in CA tracks vs the east coast tracks like VIR.

Also, C&D editors are not pro/race driver who can put very consistent lap times like Randy Pobst and who knows who drove that Z28 in what condition and who drove the new 1LE.

Laguna Seca is not the only track that the Gen 5 Z28 gets beaten by the 2017 1LE also:

See below link for the Big Willow lap times. Take a look at the #17 and 18. It says the 1LE driver is unknown but it's Randy Pobst, it's been discussed on MT:
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

Nice! Hell of a car for the money. It looks like I might be hanging on to my V6 RS until the lease is up. Will look at the 1LE than to upgrade. Unless the USA goes into a depression and GM starts blowing out the Camaro's with sick deals. Until then will have to be content with my RS.

1LE caSSper · 03-13-2017, 05:56 AM

Glad I didn't buy the z28 theres am unsold stock 2015 sitting for years at a dealer in Chi price dropped to 50k now

Ace01 · 03-13-2017, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1LE caSSper

Glad I didn't buy the z28 theres am unsold stock 2015 sitting for years at a dealer in Chi price dropped to 50k now

There is a ton of 2016 Camaro's left on dealer lots also. Good for us that want to make deals.

newmoon · 03-13-2017, 08:16 AM

My question is yes the 1LE posted a single similar lap time but what happens after lap 1 to the 1LE, during MotorTrends review he began to notice brake fade. That Z28 will run lap after lap after lap pulling away each lap.

In regards to this for the past week I seriously considered purchasing a local 2015 Z28 with 2800 miles on it. Got the price down to 44,800 but just can't seem to pull the trigger. The thought of a monthly toy payment keeps getting in my way.

SS 1LE · 03-13-2017, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newmoon

My question is yes the 1LE posted a single similar lap time but what happens after lap 1 to the 1LE, during MotorTrends review he began to notice brake fade. That Z28 will run lap after lap after lap pulling away each lap.

In regards to this for the past week I seriously considered purchasing a local 2015 Z28 with 2800 miles on it. Got the price down to 44,800 but just can't seem to pull the trigger. The thought of a monthly toy payment keeps getting in my way.

If you watched Randy's full video, it wasn't really brake fade, but the pedal had a longer travel than he was used too...multiple other tests have actually gone as far to say they noticed no fade (including members on here who have tracked them). But lets be honest, if you planned on tracking either of these cars hard, you would want to do a fluid and possibly pad upgrade to eliminate any potential issues (as you would on nearly any car).

SS 1LE · 03-13-2017, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Even though it wasn't the same day, the 17 is a much better ride then the Z28. Weight, power to weight. Its just a wicked Gen6 for the money.

This is true, I test drove a Z/28, and while I like a stiff riding car, it was just too much...defiantly not street friendly if you ask me. With the SS 1LE, just swap the MRC setting to Sport or Tour and the ride is great...almost amazingly so considering the track capabilities.

Bosse'sBoss · 03-24-2017, 04:59 AM

That is great

RobertSmith · 03-24-2017, 05:14 AM

I'm sure the Z/28 is more fun around the track though.

03-13-2017, 08:16 AM	#10
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	My question is yes the 1LE posted a single similar lap time but what happens after lap 1 to the 1LE, during MotorTrends review he began to notice brake fade. That Z28 will run lap after lap after lap pulling away each lap. In regards to this for the past week I seriously considered purchasing a local 2015 Z28 with 2800 miles on it. Got the price down to 44,800 but just can't seem to pull the trigger. The thought of a monthly toy payment keeps getting in my way. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

03-24-2017, 04:59 AM	#13
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,533	That is great __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

03-12-2017, 05:28 PM	#2
doc7000 Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lomita,CA Posts: 806	This is kind of old news, the SS 1LE put down a faster lap time at Leguna Seca then did the 5th generation Z/28 Camaro. However it must be pointed out that this isn't a same day test as conditions can/will impact lap times. At VIR the Z/28 ran a 2:50.90 while the 2017 SS 1LE ran a 2:54.80 and for science the ATS V coupe ran a 2:59.20.

03-12-2017, 06:43 PM	#3
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	Even though it wasn't the same day, the 17 is a much better ride then the Z28. Weight, power to weight. Its just a wicked Gen6 for the money.

03-12-2017, 09:31 PM	#5
glenB Drives: Chevrolet Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 721	Sounds like adolescent cock fighting

03-13-2017, 05:56 AM	#8
1LE caSSper Drives: White 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 216	Glad I didn't buy the z28 theres am unsold stock 2015 sitting for years at a dealer in Chi price dropped to 50k now

03-24-2017, 05:14 AM	#14
RobertSmith Drives: Mitsubishi Evolution X Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NY/NJ/CT Tri-State Posts: 228	I'm sure the Z/28 is more fun around the track though.

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