GM Tire TSB

nbryant · 12-21-2016, 07:42 PM

Guess this will help answer some of those lingering questions some have had about driving the F1's in the winter:

http://www.gminsidenews.com/articles...-cold-weather/

SSport16 · 12-21-2016, 10:56 PM

I saw that yesterday, kind of funny that they post a TSB on this, but other issuss like the rear end rubbing noise that a ton of us have here get ignored. This really just a CYA type of deal, tires work fine in cold, just drive slow and a heated garage does wonders. Below 20 I can see maybe an issue, I normally don't drive mine under 30/35 degrees.

Doyal_Mcneff · 12-21-2016, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SSport16

I saw that yesterday, kind of funny that they post a TSB on this, but other issuss like the rear end rubbing noise that a ton of us have here get ignored. This really just a CYA type of deal, tires work fine in cold, just drive slow and a heated garage does wonders. Below 20 I can see maybe an issue, I normally don't drive mine under 30/35 degrees.

It has nothing to do with them being fine when cold. It's that they develop cracks in the tire and lose performance because of it. The tsb is just a warning to not drive the car in cold weather and that they won't warranty the tires. Which is kind of bs to me.

GP86 · 12-22-2016, 10:01 AM

This CYA is necessary because consumers believe their money gives them the inherent right to abuse a system that was built with a specific purpose in mind. Anecdotal evidence does not give one the right to complain when they assume the risks. This is a performance vehicle/tire that was designed, tested, and validated to operate in specific conditions with a specific level of function. Those conditions do not include Summer rated tires being misused and run in Winter (cold) conditions. If you were fortunate enough to pony up for an expensive vehicle that includes Summer Performance tires, you owe it to yourself and your car to care for it properly!

osubuckeye · 12-22-2016, 10:36 AM

For the life of me I can't understand why GM doesn't give you the option of choosing non summer tires for the SS model. I had to go with the 2LT because I live in Ohio. I would have preferred the SS.

SSport16 · 12-22-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doyal_Mcneff

It has nothing to do with them being fine when cold. It's that they develop cracks in the tire and lose performance because of it. The tsb is just a warning to not drive the car in cold weather and that they won't warranty the tires. Which is kind of bs to me.

No I get that, just ridicuolous.

Doyal_Mcneff · 12-22-2016, 11:37 AM

I agree...they shouldn't offer these vehicles in cold climates with a/s options.

drivingagain · 12-23-2016, 02:44 PM

Summer tires work fine here in the south year around and we do not need all seasons. It is a performance car and why they put performance tires on it. I could not see wanting to drive my v8 Camaro through snow. If I had to I would have bought an awd or 4x4 instead. Not many people who live where it snows alot can drive a Camaro with low clearances. Mainly just inner city driving with snow. Yes I drive in snow yearly but in a 4x4 3/4 ton diesel while I am in Colorado for the Holidays. Just my thoughts.

SSport16 · 12-23-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drivingagain

Summer tires work fine here in the south year around and we do not need all seasons. It is a performance car and why they put performance tires on it. I could not see wanting to drive my v8 Camaro through snow. If I had to I would have bought an awd or 4x4 instead. Not many people who live where it snows alot can drive a Camaro with low clearances. Mainly just inner city driving with snow. Yes I drive in snow yearly but in a 4x4 3/4 ton diesel while I am in Colorado for the Holidays. Just my thoughts.

Agree 100%!

BluinSC · 12-24-2016, 01:13 AM

Althought it has been cold here recently in SC (20- 40 degree morning temps) I have not noticed anything wrong with the tires on my DD SS.

12-21-2016, 07:42 PM	#1
nbryant Drives: 2016 2SS Red Hot Join Date: May 2016 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 627	GM Tire TSB Guess this will help answer some of those lingering questions some have had about driving the F1's in the winter: http://www.gminsidenews.com/articles...-cold-weather/ __________________ 2SS, A8, NPP, Nav, Sun Roof, Bose Audio, MM Catch Can, RPI chin splitter

12-21-2016, 10:56 PM	#2
SSport16 Drives: 2016 Garnet Red Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,435	I saw that yesterday, kind of funny that they post a TSB on this, but other issuss like the rear end rubbing noise that a ton of us have here get ignored. This really just a CYA type of deal, tires work fine in cold, just drive slow and a heated garage does wonders. Below 20 I can see maybe an issue, I normally don't drive mine under 30/35 degrees. __________________ 2SS Camaro, Garnet Red, Adrenaline Red, NPP, MRC, A8, 5 Split Spoke Bright Silver Wheels (56W) 1100 Status - 7/24/15 (Ordered) 3800 Status - 10/13/15 (Built) 6000 Status - 12/22/15 (Delivered)

12-22-2016, 10:01 AM	#4
GP86 Drives: 2017 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: USA Posts: 380	This CYA is necessary because consumers believe their money gives them the inherent right to abuse a system that was built with a specific purpose in mind. Anecdotal evidence does not give one the right to complain when they assume the risks. This is a performance vehicle/tire that was designed, tested, and validated to operate in specific conditions with a specific level of function. Those conditions do not include Summer rated tires being misused and run in Winter (cold) conditions. If you were fortunate enough to pony up for an expensive vehicle that includes Summer Performance tires, you owe it to yourself and your car to care for it properly! __________________ 2017 HBM 2SS A8\|F55\|NPP\|H01\|IO6\|RIK\|WGL\|56R

12-22-2016, 10:36 AM	#5
osubuckeye Drives: 2016 2LT Gamet Red Tintcoat Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 129 View My Garage	For the life of me I can't understand why GM doesn't give you the option of choosing non summer tires for the SS model. I had to go with the 2LT because I live in Ohio. I would have preferred the SS.

12-22-2016, 11:37 AM	#7
Doyal_Mcneff Account Suspended Drives: 2016 2ss Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Virginia Posts: 250	I agree...they shouldn't offer these vehicles in cold climates with a/s options.

12-23-2016, 02:44 PM	#8
drivingagain Drives: 2015 Tiger XCX,2016 Camaro 1SS,LBZ! Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 1,311	Summer tires work fine here in the south year around and we do not need all seasons. It is a performance car and why they put performance tires on it. I could not see wanting to drive my v8 Camaro through snow. If I had to I would have bought an awd or 4x4 instead. Not many people who live where it snows alot can drive a Camaro with low clearances. Mainly just inner city driving with snow. Yes I drive in snow yearly but in a 4x4 3/4 ton diesel while I am in Colorado for the Holidays. Just my thoughts.

12-24-2016, 01:13 AM	#10
BluinSC Drives: BVM 1SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Columbia-Sumter- Florence, SC Posts: 465	Althought it has been cold here recently in SC (20- 40 degree morning temps) I have not noticed anything wrong with the tires on my DD SS.

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