Navigation without OnStar

bielawg · 09-21-2016, 09:22 PM

I'm pretty close to ordering my Camaro. Going with a 6spd 2SS W/ mag ride and NPP.

I'm still debating on getting the nav though. Mainly because I've been getting some mixed messages on what ONSTAR adds to it.

My dealer claims that without Onstar, I will not get traffic information with my nav, and I will not get Nav on my hud. All my research has led me to believe that this dealer is wrong, but I wanted to ask people that actually have this system as I often find dealers are misinformed about this kind of stuff.

Thanks in advance.

Glen e · 09-21-2016, 09:25 PM

I do not have OnStar, I have Nav, I have real-time traffic and nav in the HUD.

Genesis7 · 09-21-2016, 09:27 PM

Yeah this is also the same question I had for a while... people if someone knows how to use nav without onstar, please help a fellow Camaro 6 owner.

raptor5244 · 09-21-2016, 09:28 PM

I am not sure about the real time traffic alerts but the integration of the NAV with the HUD has nothing to do with Onstar. You also get the speed limit for the road your are on posted in the DIC. It pulls this from the NAV database.

Maiden Rush · 09-21-2016, 09:38 PM

Get the Nav. It's fast and one of the best integrated Nav systems out there.

SkipNWis · 09-21-2016, 09:51 PM

I'm happy with my OnStar it's never failed me. Always gotten me where I have asked it to..

Hyper16 · 09-21-2016, 09:57 PM

Traffic reports shown in the nav unit are from XM. They will go away when your trial ends (unless you re-up).

Red Devil's Rebel · 09-21-2016, 10:07 PM

OK, I don't actually have my car yet so I can't say from 1st hand experience - but I've been considering it too so been doing some asking around & listening and this is what I've got so far: you can get "navigating" help through OnStar as one of their services if you ask for them for help to get from point A to point B but that is totally separate from the "NAV" option that may come installed on your car if you choose. The traffic/speed limits/gas station info is a perk of the NAV option but, I was told that it pulls that all or part of that info (as well as the weather) from information supplied by Sirius/XM (as long as those channels are part of your subscription plan - ie, you are paying for them).
Does this sound right, owners?

Hyper16 · 09-21-2016, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil's Rebel

OK, I don't actually have my car yet so I can't say from 1st hand experience - but I've been considering it too so been doing some asking around & listening and this is what I've got so far: you can get "navigating" help through OnStar as one of their services if you ask for them for help to get from point A to point B but that is totally separate from the "NAV" option that may come installed on your car if you choose. The traffic/speed limits/gas station info is a perk of the NAV option but, I was told that it pulls that all or part of that info (as well as the weather) from information supplied by Sirius/XM (as long as those channels are part of your subscription plan - ie, you are paying for them).
Does this sound right, owners?

Yes

cellsafemode · 09-21-2016, 10:16 PM

Android Auto makes the "nav" system that comes with the car pointless.

MovieGuy · 09-21-2016, 10:17 PM

I just use google maps on my android through android auto for navigation. It works great.

Genesis7 · 09-21-2016, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieGuy

I just use google maps on my android through android auto for navigation. It works great.

This is so helpful dude! Why din't I think about his earlier! Thanks.

Glen e · 09-21-2016, 10:27 PM

One more time… I have not had OnStar activated in my car for four months. I still have real-time traffic alert, and I have NAV in my HUD.

Hyper16 · 09-21-2016, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen e

One more time… I have not had OnStar activated in my car for four months. I still have real-time traffic alert, and I have NAV in my HUD.

I also get NAV in the HUD and DIC as well as the MyLink NAV screen.
Just wondering. Is your XM subscription still active?
I have had built in NAV in my last 4 GM vehicles and the traffic reports always go away when the XM trial runs out and I don't subscribe.

Have never used OnStar nav even though it is free with the trial.

09-21-2016, 09:22 PM	#1
bielawg Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 37	Navigation without OnStar I'm pretty close to ordering my Camaro. Going with a 6spd 2SS W/ mag ride and NPP. I'm still debating on getting the nav though. Mainly because I've been getting some mixed messages on what ONSTAR adds to it. My dealer claims that without Onstar, I will not get traffic information with my nav, and I will not get Nav on my hud. All my research has led me to believe that this dealer is wrong, but I wanted to ask people that actually have this system as I often find dealers are misinformed about this kind of stuff. Thanks in advance. Last edited by bielawg; 09-21-2016 at 09:43 PM.

09-21-2016, 09:25 PM	#2
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	I do not have OnStar, I have Nav, I have real-time traffic and nav in the HUD. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

09-21-2016, 09:28 PM	#4
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	I am not sure about the real time traffic alerts but the integration of the NAV with the HUD has nothing to do with Onstar. You also get the speed limit for the road your are on posted in the DIC. It pulls this from the NAV database. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Black - Sold 2013 Camaro SS 1LE - Black - M6 - Sold 2016 Camaro SS - Mosaic Black - A8 - Sold 2017 C7 Stingray - M7 Coupe - Sold 2019 C7 Grand Sport M7 Vert - Sold 2021 Camaro ZL1 - Black - A10 - Sold 2019 Tesla Model 3 2022 CT4-V Blackwing - M6

09-21-2016, 09:51 PM	#6
SkipNWis Drives: 2016/SS Has had 4 Gen 5's Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Hudson,WI Posts: 939	I'm happy with my OnStar it's never failed me. Always gotten me where I have asked it to.. __________________ SnoWhite

09-21-2016, 09:57 PM	#7
Hyper16 A Heartbeat Away......... Drives: Not As Fast As I Would Like To Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,379	Traffic reports shown in the nav unit are from XM. They will go away when your trial ends (unless you re-up). __________________ ,,,,,,, 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic 2SS \| A8 \| MRC \| Sunroof \| Nav \| Mishimoto Catch Can \| GM CAI \| Hurst Shifter \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| Body Color Splash Guards \| 1LE Splitter \| GM Dark Tail Lights \| ZL1 Third Brake Light \| Custom Fuel Door, Badges & Bowties \| Oracle Side Markers \| Blacked Out Stuff \| Opti-Coat Pro+ The problem with this world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be penalties for stupidity, but why don't we just take the warning labels off everything and let the problem solve itself.

09-21-2016, 09:27 PM	#3
Genesis7 Account Suspended Drives: 2SS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 320	Yeah this is also the same question I had for a while... people if someone knows how to use nav without onstar, please help a fellow Camaro 6 owner.

09-21-2016, 09:38 PM	#5
Maiden Rush Drives: '17 SS H50 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Allentown, Pa Posts: 145 View My Garage	Get the Nav. It's fast and one of the best integrated Nav systems out there.

09-21-2016, 10:07 PM	#8
Red Devil's Rebel Drives: 2017 Camaro 2LT RS V6/A8 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Boston/North Shore, MA Posts: 533	OK, I don't actually have my car yet so I can't say from 1st hand experience - but I've been considering it too so been doing some asking around & listening and this is what I've got so far: you can get "navigating" help through OnStar as one of their services if you ask for them for help to get from point A to point B but that is totally separate from the "NAV" option that may come installed on your car if you choose. The traffic/speed limits/gas station info is a perk of the NAV option but, I was told that it pulls that all or part of that info (as well as the weather) from information supplied by Sirius/XM (as long as those channels are part of your subscription plan - ie, you are paying for them). Does this sound right, owners?

09-21-2016, 10:16 PM	#10
cellsafemode Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: California Posts: 3,522	Android Auto makes the "nav" system that comes with the car pointless.

09-21-2016, 10:17 PM	#11
MovieGuy Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Topeka KS Posts: 892	I just use google maps on my android through android auto for navigation. It works great. __________________ Life after retirement

09-21-2016, 10:27 PM	#13
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	One more time… I have not had OnStar activated in my car for four months. I still have real-time traffic alert, and I have NAV in my HUD. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

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