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Old 07-30-2016, 09:37 PM   #1
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Real world pricing

Hi everyone,

Long time reader and 1st post.

I haven't seen real out-the-door pricing on the 1ss. I am planning on picking one up in the spring but the prices seem to be out of reach. My ideal budget is 30k OTD- I'm a special education teacher and I already own an MK7 GTI (plan on having this as a daily) so going over 30k would not be entirely smart.

For example, Chapman Chevy. Most of their 1ss stock is 30-33k. Will they hit me with few mark-up charges to bring it back up to invoice prices?

http://www.chapmansellschevys.com/Ve...-PA/2805713503

http://www.koons.com/new/Chevrolet/2...512db7958c.htm

thanks for the input!

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Old 07-30-2016, 09:53 PM   #2
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jesus they are cheap on that dealer site. Seriously, how is he listing these so cheap?????? I'm about to take a flight to Philly to get a second Camaro, 2SS fifty edition for 38K..


edit: nevermind they have a bunch of different rebates as the savings which many may or may not qualify for.
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:56 PM   #3
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Wow... This anniversary edition is 38k for a 2ss. Ya looking at all of them thats a lot of big savings... http://www.chapmansellschevys.com/Ve...-PA/2788553333

If it's legit thats awesome. Oh was about to say ok it must be messed up on their site because they have a 1 SS going for 52k!!! Then I clicked on it to see the error... saw it's a Callaway. Interesting for sure!
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:16 PM   #4
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Hi everyone,

Long time reader and 1st post.

I haven't seen real out-the-door pricing on the 1ss. I am planning on picking one up in the spring but the prices seem to be out of reach. My ideal budget is 30k OTD- I'm a special education teacher and I already own an MK7 GTI (plan on having this as a daily) so going over 30k would not be entirely smart.

For example, Chapman Chevy. Most of their 1ss stock is 30-33k. Will they hit me with few mark-up charges to bring it back up to invoice prices?

http://www.chapmansellschevys.com/Ve...-PA/2805713503

thanks for the input!
If you look closely at the fine print at the bottom of those listings you will see that in order to qualify for that incredible $9200 in savings you basically have to qualify for every GM incentive they offer. Military, Farm Bureau, Equinox lease, GM credit card new member, etc. etc.

If you are looking at a $40k MSRP 1SS, on average you will get 2500-3500 off, plus tax, tag and title.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:41 PM   #5
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If you look closely at the fine print at the bottom of those listings you will see that in order to qualify for that incredible $9200 in savings you basically have to qualify for every GM incentive they offer. Military, Farm Bureau, Equinox lease, GM credit card new member, etc. etc.

If you are looking at a $40k MSRP 1SS, on average you will get 2500-3500 off, plus tax, tag and title.
Yep, it's very misleading because most people will not qualify for every discount.

My dealership I bought my camaro from had a conquest deal, I did not read close enough, and of course I didn't qualify for that because I've been loyal to GM over all these years. Thanks GM.
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:46 AM   #6
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What are the invoice prices for base 1ss?

Also, since i'm an educator, I qualify for GM's teacher discount. Does anyone know the amount? http://www.chevrolet.com/educator-discount.html
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Supplier Pricing apples.


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Old 07-31-2016, 07:57 AM   #8
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I just found this one..but i know Koons will add little charges here and there but it will still be lower than MSRP.

Anyone have experience with koons?


http://www.koons.com/new/Chevrolet/2...512db7958c.htm
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:15 AM   #9
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I bought my 5th gen at koons vienna(tysons corner)...and I ordered my 6th gen there as well. fairly straightforward on prices the times I have bought there
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I bought my 5th gen at koons vienna(tysons corner)...and I ordered my 6th gen there as well. fairly straightforward on prices the times I have bought there
you bought them at WOW prices or with additional charges?
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you bought them at WOW prices or with additional charges?
There were no additional charges. I dont actually recall if it was the wow price or not, but it was well off msrp in both instances.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:06 PM   #12
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I'm looking at a V6 6-spd manual 2LT/RS 50th Anniversary MSRP with College discount at $36,700. This is a 2SS 50th Automatic for $38k? So they list the rebates as:

2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 50th Anniversary Edition!!! Not all consumers qualify for retail incentives, see dealer for details - Are you currently leasing a vehicle? You may be eligible for additional incentives - Pricing includes $1000 - Military/Educator/College Grad/Supplier Discount (ask to see if you qualify - your employer may make you eligible for supplier discount) Exp. 08/01, $1500 - GMF Down Payment Assist Offer Exp. 08/01, $2000 - Chevy Trade Assist Offer (2006+ vehicle trade) Exp. 08/01, $1,500 - Equinox Owner Loyalty (proof of ownership/lease of Chevy Equinox) Exp. 08/01, $500 - GM Card New Member Offer (Credit restrictions apply) Exp. 08/01, $500 - American Farm Bureau Member (Proof of membership required) Exp. 08/01

I would qualify for all but the Equinox.

- I am a College Student and the Supplier discount is actually $1,903, not $1000 on that equipped vehicle.
- $1,500 GMF Down Payment Assist Offer - not sure what this is. I'm currently financed with GM, I'd assume they would finance me again. Anyone know the details on this? Is this available at all Chevy Dealers?
- $2000 - Chevy Trade Assist Offer (2006+ vehicle trade) - Is this an additional $2000 towards a 2006+ Chevy trade in? I'm trading in a 2013 Camaro. Is this available at all Chevy Dealers?
- $1,500 - Equinox Owner Loyalty - Don't qualify
- $500 - GM Card New Member Offer (Credit restrictions apply) - Is this an up front $500 for new GM Card members that apply and qualify for a new GM CC? Anyone with information on this? My credit is excellent and I'd apply for it if it gave me $500 off!
- $500 - American Farm Bureau Member - I qualify for this as well (I miss the $750 USAA).

So that's $47,640
- $1,903 College
- $1,500 GMF DP Assist
- $2,000 Chevy Trade Assist
- $500 GM Card
- $500 Farm Bureau
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$41,237 - The $1,500 Equinox would be $39,737. Where's the other $1,439?

If they gave me what I'm looking for on my trade-in, I would have another $3k off. I could also swap the $500 New GM CC with $1,500 GM Points. I also have a $1,000 PO that expires 8/1. $5,000 down would put my payment the same as it is now for my 2013. Total would be $34,298 +tax - 5k down. I want a 6-spd manual, but an automatic at this price would be phenomenal!

I'll be calling them tomorrow just to see what the scoop is. I'm sure it's a pipe dream... but doesn't hurt to look/ask.
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Hi everyone,

Long time reader and 1st post.

I haven't seen real out-the-door pricing on the 1ss. I am planning on picking one up in the spring but the prices seem to be out of reach. My ideal budget is 30k OTD- I'm a special education teacher and I already own an MK7 GTI (plan on having this as a daily) so going over 30k would not be entirely smart.

For example, Chapman Chevy. Most of their 1ss stock is 30-33k. Will they hit me with few mark-up charges to bring it back up to invoice prices?

http://www.chapmansellschevys.com/Ve...-PA/2805713503

http://www.koons.com/new/Chevrolet/2...512db7958c.htm

thanks for the input!
Great links keep them coming!!1

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I'll be calling them tomorrow just to see what the scoop is. I'm sure it's a pipe dream... but doesn't hurt to look/ask.
So I called and spoke to Evita at Chapman Chevrolet. Very nice person and helpful in answering most of my questions. This group of incentives/discounts end today (8/1), but here is what I found out:

- $1,000 College Grad - This was the only thing she wasn't clear about. She asked if I graduated in the last 2 years, and I was telling her I'm still in college going for my Bachelor's and this qualifies me for the GM College Discount which would be $1,903. She said that is supplier pricing and this $1,000 is for College Grads. If I went with supplier pricing then I wouldn't qualify for some of the other incentives. Unless they are offering something on their own, I'm not sure what this is and I couldn't get a straight answer on it.

- $1,500 GMF Down Payment Assist Offer - If you get financed through GM and put down $1,500, GM will give you $1,500 back as well. Again, not 100% clear whether it's matched and taken off the financed price or if it's a cash back incentive.

- $2,000 Chevy Trade Assist Offer - Trade in a 2006+ Chevy vehicle and you will get an additional $2,000 on top of their trade-in offer. They wouldn't do a "preliminary" trade offer over the phone with my VIN and condition so I can't tell you if they low-ball their trades to give you this "extra" $2,000.

- $1,500 Equinox Owner Loyalty - We all should know what this is - if you currently own or lease an Equinox, you get $1,500 off.

- $500 GM Card New Member Offer - If you apply for and get a approved on a new GM Credit Card, you will get $500 off your vehicle.

- $500 American Farm Bureau Member - Anyone can be an AFB member - just pay $45 and be a member for 30 days and you get $500 off your vehicle. This cannot be combined with the $1,000 Private Offers so one or the other if you happen to get a PO popup!

The above totals $7,000. There is still $2,342 missing of the $9,342 discount which she said were additional competitive discounts Chapman is giving on the vehicle. As I said, I qualify for all but the $1,500 Equinox, but I have $1,500 on the GM Card and have a $1000 PO (expires today) in place of the Farm Bureau which both make up the $1,500 in lieu of the Equinox Loyalty incentive. If they gave me close to what I'm looking for on the trade-in would I have $3,000 equity, I could potentially get this 2017 2SS 50th for $34,395.

I also asked if the GMF Down Payment Assist, Chevy Trade Assist, and new GM Card member were local, regional, or national for Chevy dealers as I had not heard of them in Florida. She said she didn't know what other Chevy dealers offer so she couldn't help answer that question.

If I knew earlier, I might have scheduled a trip to PA to do the deal. Evita will call me tomorrow to tell me what new incentives/discounts are available since all of these ended on 8/1.
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