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![]() Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OH
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Rookie could use some help, please
Hello All,
My first two posts were in the wrong forum, I hope I am doing this one correctly. A couple Saturday's ago, I went out for some coffee and came back with a new 2SS convertible. lol I've put two kids through college, lived a pretty conservative life, so I figured what the heck, My turn. lol So I'd like to put on a supercharger. I know nothing about them. ZERO. I am not a mechanic, in fact, I am quite bad with tools. I would like something that once is installed, is pretty maintenance free. I am not looking for 800HP or anything crazy, just something that sets my SS apart from others. This is a weekend driver, but, I would like to take it on some overnight weekend trips. I live in Ohio, Lingenfelter is roughly 4 hours from me, so I was thinking that direction. Good choice? Price is an issue, but, not the main issue. The main issue is I want it done right by the right company with the right supercharger. I am sure this is somewhat opinion based, and I am not trying to start a supercharger war. I would appreciate some guidance and opinions, please thanks |
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Bump in the night
Drives: '84 Monte Carlo SS, '15 Optima Join Date: Oct 2015
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Seems like all the edelbrock e force sc guys are pretty happy with their setup. The kit is nice looking and shouldn't make it much different until you step on the gas hard. Get a certified mechanic to do the work or ask if they have a recommendation for an installer. Maybe think about half shafts too. Good luck.
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![]() Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OH
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thank you for your response. What are half shafts?
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Bump in the night
Drives: '84 Monte Carlo SS, '15 Optima Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: U.S.A.
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You should be able to find a bunch of videos about the kit and a few write ups on hotrod.com
Just beware about voiding your engine and drivetrain warranty. There is a hint of shortblock problems happening with some LT1 engines. If you can't risk the $ for a new one you may be better off to wait a little bit before you sc it. As far as setting the car apart from the others you won't need to go crazy on it. SS cars are still rare on the street and I have yet to see a vert and I've kept an eye out for gen 6 carrs
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Bump in the night
Drives: '84 Monte Carlo SS, '15 Optima Join Date: Oct 2015
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Pretty much the same thing as rear axles in an old school solid rear car. It's independent suspension lingo. Some guys have busted them at the strip with a hard launch with cool air and a sticky track.
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SABIO
Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Bradford, ON
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Lingenfelter. You said it yourself. Good products, they know what they are doing, etc. And close by.
I would go there and sit down and talk with them I am sure you could have all your answers and come out with a set up you are comfortable with.
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Look into a Procharger as well. They make a good kit for the 16 SS, similar power with a lower cost vs the Edelbrock.
And if you can make it past the break in period with no problems, you'll be fine.
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The Dogfather
Drives: #1 off the line for a customer. '16 Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Andover, KS
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First off, welcome and congrats!!!
Lingenfelter would definitely be a fantastic place to take your vehicle to. Their packages run a little higher than the average of aftermarket companies but you do pay what you get. You will get a full 3year/36k mile warranty that mimics the GM warranty, top notch install and tuning. They, as well as Callaway offers "turn key" solutions which basically means that you won't have to worry about things breaking and even if it does, there is warranty. A couple things to note is that our wheels and tires are perfect for STOCK power levels. The minute you exceed that power level, you will NEED to upgrade your wheels and tires to a larger size which I would recommend 285/30/20 front 305/30/20 rear (which is THE same size as the upcoming 2017 1LE and ZL1). Lingenfelter uses Magnuson (commonly refered to as Maggie/Maggy/Heartbeat) as their supercharger which I only hear good things about from the people who have it. I am not sure how the warranty works with Maggie install only, I know they will warranty the SC itself but no idea what would happen IF it causes another issue. Feel free to browse the forum to learn more about everything, don't be shy and do ask any questions you may have! A lot have been discussed so a simple google or internal search could easily bring up what you may have a question for. |
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I'll second Lingenfelter or Calloway or trading for a ZL1 when they come out.
Since you are not mechanically inclined forget about "kits" installed by a local mechanic regardless their "certification". You need a turn key solution and when you add everything up neither Lingenfelter or Calloway are that much more expensive. Personally I'd go have a talk with Lingenfelter and get a complete package along with any suspension, brake and wheel/tire upgrades they recommend. If that pushes you out of your price point perhaps the upgrade just isn't for you. Remember, unless you get a supplemental warranty, which only a shop like Lingenfelter and Calloway provide. Your entire power train warrant from GM won't be worth the paper it's printed on and your resale will be non existent. |
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![]() ![]() Drives: 2001 Audi TT, 2016 Camaro Join Date: May 2016
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Well, the E-force kit is complete and with warranty. All you need is the kit and a mechanic and you'll have a 36 month and/or 36K miles drivetrain warranty. Basically, Edelbrock is your replacement warranty provider. I believe the Maggi has the same warranty and kit quality also.
Lingenfelter is an option, but being 4 hours away, you may want to find a local performance shop that can do the work and be there if you need them. |
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![]() Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: OH
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Thank you, everyone, for your replies. It is good to know Lingenfelter is a good option.
I like the idea of a run key solution. I will do some more reading on the kit systems as well and talk to my local mechanic and see if installing a super charger is in his wheelhouse I appreciate the input! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS, Nightfall Grey Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sulphur La.
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Also, the E-Force, and Magnuson (I think) are maintenance free. Only need to change out oil once every 100,000 miles.
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The Dogfather
Drives: #1 off the line for a customer. '16 Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Andover, KS
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Like Atomic Ed and and E-Ray said, Maggie and Lingenfelter aren't your only options for sure. I would definitely talk and discuss all your options you have.
Another option to think about is that you can easily also drive your SS for another year or just trade it in for the 2017 ZL1 at the end of this year. ZL1, you will be most likely looking at 60 to 70k range, 640 "estimated" but if it does have the tri-y headers like our SS's do and a more aggressive tune vs the c7 zo6 LT4, it will put down low 600s to the rear wheels on the dyno off the showroom floor which is more than any single supercharger you will get for our SS plus full factory warranty. Note: Everything has pros and cons. Cost of ownership of the ZL1 will be much higher than the SS (insurance, MPG, tire cost, repair, etc) so there are a lot of things to consider. You can just slap on any SC with their STOCK boost levels (6 psi on maggie and they won't warranty anything if you raise it up) to keep reliability as high as possible but I've done the mod the living hell out of vehicles so reliability is my top priority as I have spent thousands of dollars repairing thing and lots of downtime... Why, if I were to FI, I would be going with forged internals, mild SC cam, Gforce axles, Gforce 1 piece driveshaft, new wheels and tires... etc to accommodate the 150+ wheel HP you gain lol. So if I do that, I am looking at 80k spent on the my 2SS with the car total... and no warranty. Which is why I will be grabbing a 2018 ZL1 so I don't have to worry about anything and have full factory warranty. |
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Procharger - $5K and no warranty. Easy install.
Edelbrock - $7K, 3year/36K warranty. Not so easy install. Both will void your factory warranty. Both will give you 600+ HP. If you're not after that much increase, look at bigger injectors, a throttle body/intake upgrade, cold air intake, exhaust upgrade, and a tune. Find a good tuner shop and they can hook you up with some smaller $ upgrades that will set your SS apart. Just my two cents.
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