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JustinZS · 04-08-2008, 09:28 AM

So after reading in the proving grounds tour thread that there is a supercharged version in the works and the GT500 has been the benchmark for camaro development it sounds like theres a chance we could see the new CTS-V engine (550 hp) in the top dog Camaro version. Anyone else think this is a good possibility?

I

at the thought of that engine in this car!!

*GTAHVIT* · 04-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Seems to be the general thought around these parts.

*radz28* · 04-08-2008, 09:57 AM

I think it makes perfect sense. The LS9 would be better but I'd be willing to keep cost down by keeping steel rods, cast pistons, and a smaller blower. Yeah, not having a forged bottom end will limit one's ability to keep the engine safer, but I'm not making a racecar; I just want to spend a couple grand to make 600+ FWHP and call it a day. I'd rather keep it affordable, with great power, than thrown all that exotic stuff in there, drive the price way up, and make "only" another 100 horsepower. Besides; you know GM did their homework the way they've tested CTS-Vs in the past in Germany

*DGthe3* · 04-08-2008, 10:42 AM

Well, the caddy guys have had a hand in the styling, and its 99% certain that the V6 will be comming from the CTS (and other cars). And using the LS9 would be overkill, even for the Camaro. 550 will do very nicely. And it trumps that so called King of the Road too. Weight would be an issue though, it could be 300 lbs more than the base V8 Camaro.

Mythic · 04-08-2008, 11:18 AM

LS3 weighs in at 415lbs
LSA weighs in at 469
LLT (V6 304hp) weighs in 380 est according to GM Media

*DGthe3* · 04-08-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythic

LS3 weighs in at 415lbs
LSA weighs in at 469
LLT (V6 304hp) weighs in 380 est according to GM Media

hmm . . . well then, uh, read my sig.

I was basing my estimate on the wieght gained by the GT500 and the ZR-1.

Mythic · 04-08-2008, 11:29 AM

no worries, extra weight may also be required for engine mounts and suspension to cope with the torque/hp changes. though the Z06 uses a magnesium engine cradle soo.. I dunno

the good news is that if its 50:50ish with the V6, it should still be close with the LS3 though the LSA would still be a bit nose heavy.

MattG · 04-08-2008, 12:30 PM

Move the battery to the back for the v8, if it's not already there.

*GTAHVIT* · 04-08-2008, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattG

Move the battery to the back for the v8, if it's not already there.

They may already be there, in the spyshots of the V6 engine bay there was not a battery visible...

bouncertime · 04-08-2008, 01:29 PM

What I was told on the tour was that the supercharged engine was a 6.0. I thought the LSA was a 6.2? I am hoping the Corvette driver was wrong.

Dan · 04-08-2008, 01:35 PM

Whatever happened to the LS8? That was supposed to be the Camaro and Z06 engine. The LSA was to be Cadillac only. The LS8 was also a 6.2 SC and was around 550hp. Why they would need 2 of what seem like the same engine I have no idea but other than early mentions of it I haven't heard a peep about it.

bouncertime · 04-08-2008, 01:36 PM

I wonder if GM is building a SC version of the L76?

Mythic · 04-08-2008, 01:52 PM

It may just a slip of the tongue as well. its a lot easier to just say 6 rather than 6 point 2 all the time.

Considering all the dev time that goes into engines and the move to get all engines SAE certified. It would be really had to keep a new engine setup completely secret. I'm going to hang on the the belief they meant 6.2.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/a-detail...tor-plans.html
huh...

AirGoya · 04-08-2008, 02:35 PM

Well yea it is what i was thinking when i heard they were using a GT500 for a benchmark.

Or it could be an engine that have never seen before.

04-08-2008, 09:28 AM	#1
JustinZS Drives: waitin on 2010 !! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 126	new CTS-V engine likely in Camaro? So after reading in the proving grounds tour thread that there is a supercharged version in the works and the GT500 has been the benchmark for camaro development it sounds like theres a chance we could see the new CTS-V engine (550 hp) in the top dog Camaro version. Anyone else think this is a good possibility? I at the thought of that engine in this car!!

04-08-2008, 09:36 AM	#2
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	Seems to be the general thought around these parts. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

04-08-2008, 09:57 AM	#3
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,230 View My Garage	I think it makes perfect sense. The LS9 would be better but I'd be willing to keep cost down by keeping steel rods, cast pistons, and a smaller blower. Yeah, not having a forged bottom end will limit one's ability to keep the engine safer, but I'm not making a racecar; I just want to spend a couple grand to make 600+ FWHP and call it a day. I'd rather keep it affordable, with great power, than thrown all that exotic stuff in there, drive the price way up, and make "only" another 100 horsepower. Besides; you know GM did their homework the way they've tested CTS-Vs in the past in Germany __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

04-08-2008, 10:42 AM	#4
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Well, the caddy guys have had a hand in the styling, and its 99% certain that the V6 will be comming from the CTS (and other cars). And using the LS9 would be overkill, even for the Camaro. 550 will do very nicely. And it trumps that so called King of the Road too. Weight would be an issue though, it could be 300 lbs more than the base V8 Camaro. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

04-08-2008, 01:29 PM	#10
bouncertime Miller High Life Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1, 2017 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,199 View My Garage	What I was told on the tour was that the supercharged engine was a 6.0. I thought the LSA was a 6.2? I am hoping the Corvette driver was wrong. __________________ Jimmy

04-08-2008, 11:18 AM	#5
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	LS3 weighs in at 415lbs LSA weighs in at 469 LLT (V6 304hp) weighs in 380 est according to GM Media

04-08-2008, 11:29 AM	#7
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	no worries, extra weight may also be required for engine mounts and suspension to cope with the torque/hp changes. though the Z06 uses a magnesium engine cradle soo.. I dunno the good news is that if its 50:50ish with the V6, it should still be close with the LS3 though the LSA would still be a bit nose heavy.

04-08-2008, 12:30 PM	#8
MattG Z/28 or Bust! Drives: First Camaro: '69 Z28 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 107	Move the battery to the back for the v8, if it's not already there.

04-08-2008, 01:35 PM	#11
Dan Drives: 2004 GTO Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 448	Whatever happened to the LS8? That was supposed to be the Camaro and Z06 engine. The LSA was to be Cadillac only. The LS8 was also a 6.2 SC and was around 550hp. Why they would need 2 of what seem like the same engine I have no idea but other than early mentions of it I haven't heard a peep about it.

04-08-2008, 01:36 PM	#12
bouncertime Miller High Life Drives: 2021 Camaro LT1, 2017 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,199 View My Garage	I wonder if GM is building a SC version of the L76? __________________ Jimmy

04-08-2008, 01:52 PM	#13
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	It may just a slip of the tongue as well. its a lot easier to just say 6 rather than 6 point 2 all the time. Considering all the dev time that goes into engines and the move to get all engines SAE certified. It would be really had to keep a new engine setup completely secret. I'm going to hang on the the belief they meant 6.2. http://www.leftlanenews.com/a-detail...tor-plans.html huh...

04-08-2008, 02:35 PM	#14
AirGoya Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago/Carbondale Posts: 815	Well yea it is what i was thinking when i heard they were using a GT500 for a benchmark. Or it could be an engine that have never seen before. __________________ -Tim

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