Will 2009-2013 ZR1 carbon rotors swap to the G6 ZL1 OEM hats?

FoundNemo · 02-21-2021, 07:33 AM

Most of the posts say to use the C7 Z06 rotors (394x36mm) or C7 ZR1 rotors (394x36mm with additional heat treating) but when I checked the C6 ZR1 rotors, they are also 394x36mm.

Just curious, since you can swap the OEM G6 ZL1 hats/hardware to the carbon rotor rings from a 394x36mm rotor for a C7 Z06/ZR1, would the C6 ZR1 work too in that way? They are notably cheaper on Ebay. 1369.99 vs 1599.99 each.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-13-Che...gAAOSwhOVXfUUg

ZLE dude · 02-22-2021, 05:29 AM

You've peaked my interest. Subscribing to see where this goes...

MatthewAMEL · 02-22-2021, 09:50 AM

I thought the pad shape was different on the J57 brake? It’s not the ZL1 pad shape.

Can’t use the CC rotor with a standard pad.

Stephen12ZL1 · 02-22-2021, 09:00 PM

I believe all the GM carbon fiber rings to be the same dimensions no matter the application...even the '14-'15 Z/28 are the same so logic dictates the C6 ZR1 would also work. The correct hats for application can be swapped to any of those rings.

Schlok · 02-22-2021, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAMEL

I thought the pad shape was different on the J57 brake? It’s not the ZL1 pad shape.

Can’t use the CC rotor with a standard pad.

Yeah that's 100% true, specific pads are required for CCM rotors. This might require a caliper swap too in order to make everything work...

FrostZ · 02-23-2021, 01:31 AM

The C6 ZR1 and the C7 Z06/ZR1 all share the same caliper as the ZL1 the only difference being vented pistons on the vette’s. Being that the rotor is the same diameter and thickness I see no reason a ZL1 hat wouldn’t make it compatible with our cars. Yes they do use different pads but that is for the ever so slight increased radial depth of the CCM rotor from our 390MM to 394. This wouldn’t cause a need for a new caliper.

SteveV · 02-24-2021, 07:29 AM

So, if I am reading this thread correctly... Any Vette carbon rotor could conceivably fit our ZL1 hat... The Calipers will work as is... We only need a different set of pads...

So, which pads would be best for this?

FrostZ · 02-24-2021, 09:27 AM

Correct, theoretically any 394x36 CCM rotor with our hat should fit on the car, I would probably just get OEM pads from the Z06/ZR1. They do a fantastic job on those cars already and dust is a non issue with CCM so no reason to go aftermarket for performance unless you find a better bargain.

newchevyman · 02-24-2021, 10:57 AM

Here's a good thread on Carbon Ceramic brakes for these cars. I know Rabbit swapped C7 Z06s on and they fit OEM ZL1 calipers. $2900 and saved 34 lbs.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...5#post10677505

02-21-2021, 07:33 AM	#1
FoundNemo Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: GA Posts: 573	Will 2009-2013 ZR1 carbon rotors swap to the G6 ZL1 OEM hats? Most of the posts say to use the C7 Z06 rotors (394x36mm) or C7 ZR1 rotors (394x36mm with additional heat treating) but when I checked the C6 ZR1 rotors, they are also 394x36mm. Just curious, since you can swap the OEM G6 ZL1 hats/hardware to the carbon rotor rings from a 394x36mm rotor for a C7 Z06/ZR1, would the C6 ZR1 work too in that way? They are notably cheaper on Ebay. 1369.99 vs 1599.99 each. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-13-Che...gAAOSwhOVXfUUg

02-22-2021, 05:29 AM	#2
ZLE dude Drives: '18 ZL1 1LE Join Date: May 2020 Location: KY Posts: 219	You've peaked my interest. Subscribing to see where this goes... __________________ 2018 ZL1 1LE - Summit White, PDR, Rotofab CAI, 95mm TB, CSP 2" catless LT's, JMS Voltage Booster, AEM X-series WB, DSX flex fuel sensor, Banks Data Monster, Tuned by Ted Jannetty, 5% Tint, Blackvue DR900S-2CH, Diode Dynamics lighting, IGL Kenzo ceramic coating

02-22-2021, 09:50 AM	#3
MatthewAMEL Drives: 2023 CT5 Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,619	I thought the pad shape was different on the J57 brake? It’s not the ZL1 pad shape. Can’t use the CC rotor with a standard pad. __________________ 2017 HBM SS 1LE Sold 2023 Wave Metallic CT5-V Blackwing M6

02-22-2021, 09:00 PM	#4
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,809	I believe all the GM carbon fiber rings to be the same dimensions no matter the application...even the '14-'15 Z/28 are the same so logic dictates the C6 ZR1 would also work. The correct hats for application can be swapped to any of those rings. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

02-23-2021, 01:31 AM	#6
FrostZ Drives: 2019 A10 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 135 View My Garage	The C6 ZR1 and the C7 Z06/ZR1 all share the same caliper as the ZL1 the only difference being vented pistons on the vette’s. Being that the rotor is the same diameter and thickness I see no reason a ZL1 hat wouldn’t make it compatible with our cars. Yes they do use different pads but that is for the ever so slight increased radial depth of the CCM rotor from our 390MM to 394. This wouldn’t cause a need for a new caliper. __________________ Morimoto Headlights, AWE Touring Catback, MM Catch Can, ADM V2 Reservoir, Roto-Fab, C&R Oil Cooler, 1LE Grills

02-24-2021, 07:29 AM	#7
SteveV Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro 6M Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,137 View My Garage	So, if I am reading this thread correctly... Any Vette carbon rotor could conceivably fit our ZL1 hat... The Calipers will work as is... We only need a different set of pads... So, which pads would be best for this? __________________ People are a lot like slinky's: not very helpful most of the time, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs...

02-24-2021, 09:27 AM	#8
FrostZ Drives: 2019 A10 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 135 View My Garage	Correct, theoretically any 394x36 CCM rotor with our hat should fit on the car, I would probably just get OEM pads from the Z06/ZR1. They do a fantastic job on those cars already and dust is a non issue with CCM so no reason to go aftermarket for performance unless you find a better bargain. __________________ Morimoto Headlights, AWE Touring Catback, MM Catch Can, ADM V2 Reservoir, Roto-Fab, C&R Oil Cooler, 1LE Grills

02-24-2021, 10:57 AM	#9
newchevyman Drives: 2017 Camero ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 130	Here's a good thread on Carbon Ceramic brakes for these cars. I know Rabbit swapped C7 Z06s on and they fit OEM ZL1 calipers. $2900 and saved 34 lbs. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...5#post10677505 __________________ 2017 ZL1 A10 Dyno/Quarter Mile/Dragy 9.71@141.2 MPH so far. 2007 Z06 H/C/I/E Half Mile - 169 MPH. Sold.

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