05-13-2019, 08:08 AM | #127 | |
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05-13-2019, 08:21 AM | #128 | |
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If you'll tell me what your goals are, maybe I can help by sharing my experiences. |
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05-13-2019, 10:49 AM | #129 | |
Drives: 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2018
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I just like how the stock controller deals with that better, stays flatter and feels sportier. I would live to figure out how to allow the DSC controller do the same thing |
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05-13-2019, 10:54 AM | #130 | |
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Although when I look at the current Camaro calibration and the old Corvette/Z51 calibration they look exactly the same |
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05-13-2019, 12:19 PM | #131 |
Drives: 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2018
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Just had a nice long conversation with Michael.. Went through a lot of information.. I adjusted the rear shock voltage scaling back to 1100 ma at 100%, made a few other small adjustments (comfort settings mostly) and will give it a go..
track session will be later this month will keep you posted |
05-13-2019, 01:27 PM | #132 | |
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05-13-2019, 02:02 PM | #133 |
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Goal is simple.. maximise mag ride abilities. Comfort, sportiness, capability. Keeping in mind that no shock control doesn't mean comfort, jarring ride doesn't mean sporty, super stiff doesn't mean capability..
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05-13-2019, 06:24 PM | #134 | |
Drives: 22' Porsche PDK GT4 Join Date: Mar 2018
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From all the stuff I have read on it, Out of the Box it is a liability compared to the stock calibration. You need a chassis/racing/engineering degree to be able to even remotely get any benefit from it. While it may be a powerful tool, it is not designed for the masses and caters to a very niche market. This is where the general buying public can get screwed. Most consumers expect a handling performance improvement from the get go, not only after hours and hours of testing and adjusting. So they buy it expecting that and end up with a worse handling car in some situations.
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05-15-2019, 12:16 AM | #135 | |
Drives: 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2018
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I wouldn't go as far as to say its a liability. I does some things worse, and some things better. And it has potential to do almost everything better, or at least to your liking.. out of the box tune is fine, and it was designed for a very cushy street drive. Unfortunately for some, it's too cushy and that is a pretty easy fix. its really just the control over bumps and staying flat thing that I would really love to solve, and then there would really be no real disadvantages to the DSC box imo... but right now I am trying the ZR1 calibration so once I get enough impressions, I will report.. so far I like it more than the original calibration. One thing DSC is good at, is slowing down and corner entry, mid corner control,... and it seems the new cal does it all even better.. trying to figure out also if it puts the power down better.. stay tuned |
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01-05-2020, 04:38 PM | #136 |
Staying tuned, waiting on anymore feedback before I pull the trigger on this unit
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01-22-2020, 05:49 PM | #137 |
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sub'd for reference
lots to digest here for sure
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01-28-2020, 03:13 PM | #138 |
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I actually think that GM did a great job with their algorithms. If DSC would only offer their controller set to GM specs and just quicken the rebound reaction time to be quicker and inline with a performance coil-over, it would rock. That is all that is needed for the MRC to be as good as a coil-over.
MRC does a great job of keeping things smooth and controlled, but is still a bit lazier on the rebound stroke compared to a coil-over. I'm not sure that can be done though, as I think that is more a function of computing power, not damping curves, or so I think.
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10-19-2020, 09:30 AM | #139 | |
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10-19-2020, 02:49 PM | #140 |
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Glad your learning and experimenting with calibrations. Personally, I don't want the DSC V4 controller to keep the car flatter, if I did, it's easily changed. OEM unit is not active like DSC V4, its reactive. When I autocross, I'm intentionally putting some roll in the car... more weight on my outer tires plants them, and helps rotate the car quickly. DSC Sport V4, when custom calibrated properly, can do anything the OEM controller can do, as a basic function, but if you start making changes without knowing the effective range of those changes, there's a good chance you're not achieving positive results. If you've got a ZL1, the stock Camaro calibration will work, but it was configured for the lighter SS 1LE. Call Jeremy at DSC Sport, tell him what you're wanting to do, he should be able to help you out. I recently outfitted my 2018 ZL1 1LE with DSC Sport RT coil over shocks and V4 controller. Car is amazing.
The latest SCCA National Champion in Prepared class for road course, and National Champion in CAM C autocross, were equipped with a DSC Sport V4 controller, and RT shocks. Several track records have also been set with OEM MRC and DSC V4 controller. As a driver's ability and efforts increase, so does the difference between DSC V4 active controller and OEM reactive controller. That means even in Track mode, there's not a harsh ride like a stock ZL1 1LE. When driver inputs tell the controller you're making a racing move, it changes settings to optimize within milliseconds. Sounds like you just need a custom calibration for heavy ZL1. I'd also recommend a ZL1 1LE rear adjustable swaybar, which is much softer that a OEM ZL1 non-adjustable bar, unless you want the car flat, non compliant, and driving like a go cart with a live axle... : ) |
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