[Evil-Bee-NH]

ATS and Camaro may share the same engine but if u ever drove the V6 LLT ATS and Camaro they have huge differences in powerband. I'm not disputing facts, the numbers were high and I know 1/4 mile testing is the better way to go but I can easily see a 2.0 Camaro running down the 2.0 ATS I did it easily in my 2011 V6 Camaro against it's Cadillac counterpart i'm hoping to get some dragstrip time in before the month is out. AutoX is first coming up this sunday.

My issue was the whining and yet again another SS owner chimed in after what needed to be said was said. So we'll just keep running our post counts up together.

[Michigan1LTRS]

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

ya I know i'm getting all serious for no real reason just tired of the V8 guys chiming in i'd take it as constructive feedback from another I4 guy honestly just amazes me how much they need to smell there own sh*t.

[Michigan1LTRS]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bee-NH

ya I know i'm getting all serious for no real reason just tired of the V8 guys chiming in i'd take it as constructive feedback from another I4 guy honestly just amazes me how much they need to smell there own sh*t.

Dude. I'm enjoying your posts and look forward to more of your testing. Enjoying your car is what it's all about. This turbo 4 is an amazing car and SO much fun to drive.

[SuperSound]

You are the only Camaro on the entire board posting a stock dyno showing over 20% over SAE figures. You better believe there is interest from everyone. That means you are making 2.3L EB power. That's a big deal.

[Michigan1LTRS]

Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

Dude. I'm enjoying your posts and look forward to more of your testing. Enjoying your car is what it's all about. This turbo 4 is an amazing car and SO much fun to drive.

Oh, and not to mention how amazing this car looks.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

You are the only Camaro on the entire board posting a stock dyno showing over 20% over SAE figures. You better believe there is interest from everyone. That means you are making 2.3L EB power. That's a big deal.

Using an SAE corrected dyno. Most of the numbers I've seen posted were from CAI companies with donor cars that didn't reach the limiter on the pull for liability reasons more then likely. I know my car hits the limiter at 158mph on the dyno so you figure the on road is probably 155mph. I don't find it hard to believe our car is making 2.3 EB power I've driven the 2.3 EB Stang once. It makes more power low end but bogs down quicker in my experience compared to my car stock.

Now with the mods atleast the dyno is justified in the gains department my mods gave me more then reasonable gains without a tune. Which is good for the I4 guys because now they'll know what to expect from mods without a tune.

We actually have more drag times for the Camaro LTG then the LGX guys but not our own thread yet. Someone said not worth it because the LGX guys haven't posted anything.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

Dude. I'm enjoying your posts and look forward to more of your testing. Enjoying your car is what it's all about. This turbo 4 is an amazing car and SO much fun to drive.

Thank you

I'm currently talking with Brian from Vermont Tuning he's as close to the expert as there is right now for the 2.0T LTG and been getting a little information from the ZZP Performance guys on the 2.0T LTG ATS. I can't wait til spring to tune this car and see what it does. Hopefully the Aftermarket will grow before then aswell we lucked out with everything being interchangeable from the ATS mostly.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Hi Kevin,

My data for the 2016 model year LTG on the ATS and Camaro does indeed show that GM is under rating the motor. *I have seen the highest results on a stock 2016 ATS with up to 310 hp at the engine at ~ 24 psi in a data log and most of the Camaro stock logs were close to 300hp at 21-22 psi


Brian Blair
Vermont Tuning LLC
124 LaHue Farm Road
Sheldon, VT 05483
ph: 802-393-7305
www.vermonttuning.com
facebook.com/VermontTuning

So this was from a guy that has perhaps the greatest amount of intimate knowledge on the 2.0 LTG platform across the models. Makes me feel a lot less apprehensive with this dyno given how spot on the 5th Gens were to every other dyno. Not trying to say I have a super LTG just trying to state that GM is underrating these engines terribly and I do know weather is a huge factor in how well a dyno will produce from these cars it being 45 to 55 degrees out on my Saturday run is almost as good as your going to get.

[Michigan1LTRS]

Yeah, this does not surprise me. When I first heard the Camaro had a 4 cylinder, I was like what??? I knew it had a turbo, so I had to test drive it. I was fully expecting to feel the typical 4 banger struggle bus feel. Wow, I was wrong. This thing hauls booty!!! Within 2 hours I was driving it home. I've had a 2010 SS/RS, M6, so yes I am very well aware of the V8 grunt. This turbo 4 is a very healthy power plant.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Originally Posted by Michigan1LTRS

Yeah, this does not surprise me. When I first heard the Camaro had a 4 cylinder, I was like what??? I knew it had a turbo, so I had to test drive it. I was fully expecting to feel the typical 4 banger struggle bus feel. Wow, I was wrong. This thing hauls booty!!! Within 2 hours I was driving it home. I've had a 2010 SS/RS, M6, so yes I am very well aware of the V8 grunt. This turbo 4 is a very healthy power plant.

Our cars are insanely more powerful then GM states and the response is terrific add a throttle controller in and the turbo lag disappears. I will probably get a few suspension upgrades before I get my tune really looking forward to AutoX this weekend. Will likely set my VTC to SP06 I generally run SP09 all the time and it hammers the throttle open on WOT.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Stupid printer really hates me lately.

[Corner carver]

These are some awesome gains over stock, makes me wonder how much the stock turbo has in it...
Although i personally have no proof (next spring) I fully support that GM has underrated these engines and that they are indeed putting out 2.3EB power... Even with our weight advantage we shouldn't be THAT much faster than the EB, it only makes sense to conclude that our turbo is making more power than what is advertised.

Looking forward to see what how much more you'll get with a tune ... Do you plan on keeping the throttle controller after tuning?

[Corner carver]

Thanks Evil-bee for putting yourself (and your wallet) on the line for the good of the turbo community! Much appreciated!
Also, where might i find the write up about your dyno experience with the car that you mentioned?
Would love to see what this turbo could do with a 4:11 rear end...