ZL1 1LE - Day 1, Better than my Z06

angryBits · 10-22-2018, 11:50 PM

Transitioning from a 2017 Z06 w/ Z07 M7 to a 2018 ZL1 1LE M6.

I gotta say, the ZL1 1LE *feels* better.

- Turn in and responsiveness on the ZL1 1LE is better. I know that sounds crazy because its heavier, but I'm guessing its the lack of rubber bushings, lighter 19" wheels and DSSV? Not sure but when I man-handle the steering wheel the ZL1 1LE responds quicker, less body roll -- even compared to the Z06 w/ Z07 in track mode.

- While the suspension does enjoy communicating every pebble on the road, it is also more flat, more predictable. Granted I have not yet tracked my ZL1 1LE I have already put over 100 miles on it in the twisties. (I did say Day 1 in the title).

- Seats. I had the standard seats in the Z06 not the competition seats so I can't speak to those. However standard seats to standard seats, ZL1 1LE seats are incredibly good. Very well bolstered, they hold my legs up in just the right way. The alcantara creates a nice non-slip surface.

- ZL1 feels like a more expensive car inside. Alcantara everywhere and every surface feels solid and durable. On the Z06, it was nice but a lot of plastic and hollow sounds when touched.

- Leg room. I'm 6'4 and it took me months to find the optimal seat position in the Z06 and I was never quite comfortable. ZL1 took me about 5 minutes and there was this immediate sigh of relief.

- Rear seat. Now my 2yr daughter can come along. She giggles and yells "we going fast now daddy?" hehehe. This one alone trumps the Z06.

EDIT: I just thought of another feature I LOVE 80% HATE 20%.
- Something I always disliked about my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport, 2017 Z06 was I really wanted the suspension firmness in track mode 80% of the time because I like that firm ride and immediate responsiveness. However the traction control was tied to the drive mode. I usually wanted Track/Race firmness but Touring traction control on the street and maybe PTM Sport 1 at the track.
With the 2018 ZL1 1LE I now have 100% Track/Race no matter what (which I love except when my wife is in the car [aka 20%]) but I can switch between any traction control level I want. I really like this. Though to be honest I think it would have been smarter if Chevy allowed us to create our own fully programmable modes: IE: Press of button changes steering, sound, suspension firmness, traction control and active handling to whatever independent configuration I want. #CHEVY_WISHLIST

We'll see how she feels at the track

Raven87 · 10-23-2018, 05:59 AM

Congratulations! Gorgeous car for sure.

2010REDSS · 10-23-2018, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angryBits

Transitioning from a 2017 Z06 w/ Z07 M7 to a 2018 ZL1 1LE M6.

I gotta say, the ZL1 1LE *feels* better.

- Turn in and responsiveness on the ZL1 1LE is better. I know that sounds crazy because its heavier, but I'm guessing its the lack of rubber bushings, lighter 19" wheels and DSSV? Not sure but when I man-handle the steering wheel the ZL1 1LE responds quicker, less body roll -- even compared to the Z06 w/ Z07 in track mode.

- While the suspension does enjoy communicating every pebble on the road, it is also more flat, more predictable. Granted I have not yet tracked my ZL1 1LE I have already put over 100 miles on it in the twisties. (I did say Day 1 in the title).

- Seats. I had the standard seats in the Z06 not the competition seats so I can't speak to those. However standard seats to standard seats, ZL1 1LE seats are incredibly good. Very well bolstered, they hold my legs up in just the right way. The alcantara creates a nice non-slip surface.

- ZL1 feels like a more expensive car inside. Alcantara everywhere and every surface feels solid and durable. On the Z06, it was nice but a lot of plastic and hollow sounds when touched.

- Leg room. I'm 6'4 and it took me months to find the optimal seat position in the Z06 and I was never quite comfortable. ZL1 took me about 5 minutes and there was this immediate sigh of relief.

- Rear seat. Now my 2yr daughter can come along. She giggles and yells "we going fast now daddy?" hehehe. This one alone trumps the Z06.

We'll see how she feels at the track

She being your 2 year old daughter.....or the car?!?

Congrats on your new Camaro and it's awesome that you're teaching your daughter to enjoy it too!

Trans damm · 10-23-2018, 07:14 AM

The same reason im looking to get out of my Z06. Want to be able to take the kids out with me. Good Luck with the new car. Im in-between a 19 A10 or a New V

angryBits · 10-23-2018, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010REDSS

She being your 2 year old daughter.....or the car?!?

Congrats on your new Camaro and it's awesome that you're teaching your daughter to enjoy it too!

HAHAHA I think my daughter would love a trip to the track but I'm pretty sure someone would revoke my parenting license

angryBits · 10-23-2018, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trans damm

The same reason im looking to get out of my Z06. Want to be able to take the kids out with me. Good Luck with the new car. Im in-between a 19 A10 or a New V

I haven't set foot in a CTS-V but I considered one on paper. My gut said the Z would be more fun but the V is roomier. The back seats in the Z are almost unusable. I also considered a Dodge Demon.

Ultimately I decided my wife's car can be the roomier car

If my daughter gets too big for the back seat, then its time for a new car

MikeEM1 · 10-23-2018, 11:07 AM

Wait til you track it. Puts the power down much better than the z06 chassis. The suspension is perfect on the track as well.

~Jb · 10-23-2018, 12:09 PM

Awesome! Did you get a good deal? Seems to be a lot of black and white ZLEs on the lots all over the country.

shaftwhy · 10-23-2018, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angryBits

- Rear seat. Now my 2yr daughter can come along. She giggles and yells "we going fast now daddy?" hehehe. This one alone trumps the Z06.

Love the rear seat conversation. My 7 years old son said the other day "Dad, your ZL1 must handles better than your M3, because you go through the roundabout faster in ZL1". Priceless moment!

angryBits · 10-23-2018, 04:22 PM

I just thought of another feature I LOVE 80% HATE 20%.

Something I always disliked about my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport, 2017 Z06 was I really wanted the suspension firmness in track mode 80% of the time because I like that firm ride and immediate responsiveness. However the traction control was tied to the drive mode. I usually wanted Track/Race firmness but Touring traction control on the street and maybe PTM Sport 1 at the track.

With the 2018 ZL1 1LE I now have 100% Track/Race no matter what (which I love except when my wife is in the car [aka 20%]) but I can switch between any traction control level I want. I really like this. Though to be honest I think it would have been smarter if Chevy allowed us to create our own fully programmable modes: IE: Press of button changes steering, sound, suspension firmness, traction control and active handling to whatever independent configuration I want. #CHEVY_WISHLIST

angryBits · 10-23-2018, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaftwhy

Love the rear seat conversation. My 7 years old son said the other day "Dad, your ZL1 must handles better than your M3, because you go through the roundabout faster in ZL1". Priceless moment!

It's so nice to see our kids appreciate the finer things <3

Rnovrit · 10-23-2018, 05:30 PM

My kids are the same way. 4yr old twin boys. "Daddy, your car has a mean face." "Daddy the front of your car looks angry." "It sounds like an angry dinosaur." LOL! They love being picked up in the "Gray car with the big wing".

shaftwhy · 10-23-2018, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rnovrit

My kids are the same way. 4yr old twin boys. "Daddy, your car has a mean face." "Daddy the front of your car looks angry." "It sounds like an angry dinosaur." LOL! They love being picked up in the "Gray car with the big wing".

My son refers it as the mad face

But he likes 1LE aero the best. One day he almost decided to save his allowance to help me to upgrade to 1LE aero.

BMWM.D. · 10-23-2018, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angryBits

I just thought of another feature I LOVE 80% HATE 20%.

Something I always disliked about my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport, 2017 Z06 was I really wanted the suspension firmness in track mode 80% of the time because I like that firm ride and immediate responsiveness. However the traction control was tied to the drive mode. I usually wanted Track/Race firmness but Touring traction control on the street and maybe PTM Sport 1 at the track.

With the 2018 ZL1 1LE I now have 100% Track/Race no matter what (which I love except when my wife is in the car [aka 20%]) but I can switch between any traction control level I want. I really like this. Though to be honest I think it would have been smarter if Chevy allowed us to create our own fully programmable modes: IE: Press of button changes steering, sound, suspension firmness, traction control and active handling to whatever independent configuration I want. #CHEVY_WISHLIST

The suspension settings on the C7 can’t be configured independently like on the Camaro? I’m referring to the regular ZL1, not your 1LE.

10-22-2018, 11:50 PM	#1
angryBits Drives: ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 1,093	ZL1 1LE - Day 1, Better than my Z06 Transitioning from a 2017 Z06 w/ Z07 M7 to a 2018 ZL1 1LE M6. I gotta say, the ZL1 1LE feels better. - Turn in and responsiveness on the ZL1 1LE is better. I know that sounds crazy because its heavier, but I'm guessing its the lack of rubber bushings, lighter 19" wheels and DSSV? Not sure but when I man-handle the steering wheel the ZL1 1LE responds quicker, less body roll -- even compared to the Z06 w/ Z07 in track mode. - While the suspension does enjoy communicating every pebble on the road, it is also more flat, more predictable. Granted I have not yet tracked my ZL1 1LE I have already put over 100 miles on it in the twisties. (I did say Day 1 in the title). - Seats. I had the standard seats in the Z06 not the competition seats so I can't speak to those. However standard seats to standard seats, ZL1 1LE seats are incredibly good. Very well bolstered, they hold my legs up in just the right way. The alcantara creates a nice non-slip surface. - ZL1 feels like a more expensive car inside. Alcantara everywhere and every surface feels solid and durable. On the Z06, it was nice but a lot of plastic and hollow sounds when touched. - Leg room. I'm 6'4 and it took me months to find the optimal seat position in the Z06 and I was never quite comfortable. ZL1 took me about 5 minutes and there was this immediate sigh of relief. - Rear seat. Now my 2yr daughter can come along. She giggles and yells "we going fast now daddy?" hehehe. This one alone trumps the Z06. EDIT: I just thought of another feature I LOVE 80% HATE 20%. - Something I always disliked about my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport, 2017 Z06 was I really wanted the suspension firmness in track mode 80% of the time because I like that firm ride and immediate responsiveness. However the traction control was tied to the drive mode. I usually wanted Track/Race firmness but Touring traction control on the street and maybe PTM Sport 1 at the track. With the 2018 ZL1 1LE I now have 100% Track/Race no matter what (which I love except when my wife is in the car [aka 20%]) but I can switch between any traction control level I want. I really like this. Though to be honest I think it would have been smarter if Chevy allowed us to create our own fully programmable modes: IE: Press of button changes steering, sound, suspension firmness, traction control and active handling to whatever independent configuration I want. #CHEVY_WISHLIST We'll see how she feels at the track __________________ Current: 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Mods: MPS4s Tires \| Borla Atak \| CF Steering Wheel Previous: 2018 ZL1 1LE M6 \| 2017 Z06 Z07 M7 \| 2017 GS A8 \| 2015 ZL1 M6 \| 2013 GT500 Last edited by angryBits; 10-23-2018 at 04:07 PM.

10-23-2018, 05:59 AM	#2
Raven87 C'mon- really? Drives: Looking for a ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nortwestern Ohio Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	Congratulations! Gorgeous car for sure. __________________ Steve 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE Black #3805 - SOLD

10-23-2018, 11:07 AM	#7
MikeEM1 Drives: Tracks: 18' ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Irvine, CA --> ATX Posts: 141	Wait til you track it. Puts the power down much better than the z06 chassis. The suspension is perfect on the track as well. __________________ 18' ZL1 1LE Red Hot track toy Castrol SRF Ported TB/Rotofab dry intake AWE Track w/PLP APR GTC300 wing / Singular Endplates ASC Splitter / PA tunnels MFR Engineering Custom Diffuser Race Louvers Fender Vents APEX SM10 & ARC8 For sale: 2018 OEM ZL1 1LE Wing 12' Nissan GT-R SOLD

10-23-2018, 04:22 PM	#10
angryBits Drives: ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 1,093	I just thought of another feature I LOVE 80% HATE 20%. Something I always disliked about my 2015 ZL1, 2017 Grand Sport, 2017 Z06 was I really wanted the suspension firmness in track mode 80% of the time because I like that firm ride and immediate responsiveness. However the traction control was tied to the drive mode. I usually wanted Track/Race firmness but Touring traction control on the street and maybe PTM Sport 1 at the track. With the 2018 ZL1 1LE I now have 100% Track/Race no matter what (which I love except when my wife is in the car [aka 20%]) but I can switch between any traction control level I want. I really like this. Though to be honest I think it would have been smarter if Chevy allowed us to create our own fully programmable modes: IE: Press of button changes steering, sound, suspension firmness, traction control and active handling to whatever independent configuration I want. #CHEVY_WISHLIST __________________ Current: 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Mods: MPS4s Tires \| Borla Atak \| CF Steering Wheel Previous: 2018 ZL1 1LE M6 \| 2017 Z06 Z07 M7 \| 2017 GS A8 \| 2015 ZL1 M6 \| 2013 GT500

10-23-2018, 07:14 AM	#4
Trans damm Drives: Trans am Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Nyc Posts: 565	The same reason im looking to get out of my Z06. Want to be able to take the kids out with me. Good Luck with the new car. Im in-between a 19 A10 or a New V

10-23-2018, 12:09 PM	#8
~Jb Drives: 2018 ZLE Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Des Moines Posts: 227	Awesome! Did you get a good deal? Seems to be a lot of black and white ZLEs on the lots all over the country.

10-23-2018, 05:30 PM	#12
Rnovrit Drives: 2018 NFG ZL1-1LE Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Near the water Posts: 304	My kids are the same way. 4yr old twin boys. "Daddy, your car has a mean face." "Daddy the front of your car looks angry." "It sounds like an angry dinosaur." LOL! They love being picked up in the "Gray car with the big wing".

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