[TECHTURTLE]

Originally Posted by brettman

Awesome buddy, You just come here to see all (ROB'S blown up, my noisy SC)
J/K, How is the heat with that thing?? Should be higher then a screw, I know it is.
Have you shot it with a heat gun?

It's warmer than I'd like... IAT (on the Aeroforce Gauge) runs around 120 +/- 5 just cruising. In traffic they head up to the 140's. But it's in the 90's here outside.

I have not shot it with a heat gun but I'm guessing pre-intercooler temps are up there.

[Joe's_cool_1le]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

It's warmer than I'd like... IAT (on the Aeroforce Gauge) runs around 120 +/- 5 just cruising. In traffic they head up to the 140's. But it's in the 90's here outside.

I have not shot it with a heat gun but I'm guessing pre-intercooler temps are up there.

Maybe this could help?
One guy on the forums is having a shop install it because he's in an area that's really hot. I'm sure it would help all systems though. Cars love the cold air.
http://killerchiller.com/t/chevy
http://killerchiller.com/p/chevy-camaro-install

[Joe's_cool_1le]

Forgot to mention that the E-Force was used for the actual installation(when opening hitting the installation link above). Claiming 750 bucks for gobs of cold air.

Guessing you haven't replied because you are currently installing it. LOL

[Atomic Ed]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

It's warmer than I'd like... IAT (on the Aeroforce Gauge) runs around 120 +/- 5 just cruising. In traffic they head up to the 140's. But it's in the 90's here outside.

I have not shot it with a heat gun but I'm guessing pre-intercooler temps are up there.

Don't worry too much about the high IATs. Here's my discussion on the difference and the why:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486615

Like you, it would be nice to see the IAT number lower, but it seems that Edelbrock tuned accordingly, given the power levels. Someday I'll tackle this as a "good to do" exercise.

And the Killer Chiller package is tempting me also. May give it a go at a later time.

[Daves1SS]

That's actually my car and I installed it myself, and wrote the instruction manual for Joe at Killer Chiller. It was a challenging install because of how tight everything is in the engine bay, but my system is operating pretty well. I'm running Industrial 12a refrigerant (essentially propane), and the only issue I've had is getting nice cold air at idle when it's hot out. But as long as you're over 1000 rpms, ice cold air in the cabin. I guess it's due to the AC compressor running at too low of a speed, the fans not always being on at idle, and the Edelbrock H/E blocking all of the AC condenser which obviously has got to hurt the AC condenser's ability to do its job. It's tricky getting the right charge with the industrial 12a with it being a gas. A full can feels nearly the same in your hand as an empty can. But I think I have the charge where it needs to be through some trial and error. I could probably have Edelbrock raise the idle speed a touch and turn the fans on at idle when the AC is on and get extra cold air at idle speed.

I decided to tackle the killer chiller because I daily this car in heavy going to and coming home traffic. I was tired of having 50 to 90 degree over ambient IAT's and the car feeling like it didn't even have a supercharger on it on hot days especially when in heavy traffic.
My first dyno (prior to KC) was a bust and IAT's were high. Edelbrock kept saying to try and keep my IAT's at around 100 degrees at the start of the dyno pull and no more than 130 after. Anyone know how hard that is to accomplish with the kit as-is?? Lol.

Post KC, I can start the dyno run at 104 degrees, and by the end of the pull my IAT's are at 122. Then within 15 seconds of easy driving, you're ready for another pull as the IAT's are back down to 104. This was in an 80 degree (ambient) shop. In day to day driving with the car fully warmed up, IAT's are anywhere between 18 to 30 degrees over ambient, and typically hover about 25 degrees over. The car feels peppier on hot days for sure, no knock retard, and still the conservative Edelbrock tune. My motor = happy

I could probably drop my IAT's even further, and probably fixing my not very cold air at idle by removing the Edelbrock HE altogether, but then you need to run a lot of extra hose to make up the coolant volume lost by taking the HE out of the loop. In addition, if your AC fails, you're going to have some stupid high IAT's. I'm not going to do that. Maybe this fall/winter I'll look at a shorter 3 row front mount that doesn't block all of the AC condenser, yet retains the same or better fluid capacity of the Edelbrock HE. But for now, I'm good with how it's performing.

I've not said anything for a while because i wasn't sure what Edelbrock would think warranty-wise, but if they have a problem with a customer making their system more efficient by simply making sure the coolant running through the IC bricks is 25 degrees cooler, then so be it. It is what it is. I haven't made any performance mods to the car. Everything else is still bone stock. I've just put a mini refrigerator between the Edelbrock HE and where the fluid goes back to the supercharger.

[Atomic Ed]

So Dave, finally decided to come clean on this? I'll say it again that you did an outstanding job on putting together the instruction manual.

No doubt that the KC would be a great mod for any FI system that uses air-to-water cooling. While I'm going to play with getting the IAT sensor on the E-Force reading a little more accurate, it won't be as effective overall as truly cooling the system below ambient as you have done.

Any dyno info that would be comparable?

[Daves1SS]

Originally Posted by Atomic Ed

So Dave, finally decided to come clean on this? I'll say it again that you did an outstanding job on putting together the instruction manual.

No doubt that the KC would be a great mod for any FI system that uses air-to-water cooling. While I'm going to play with getting the IAT sensor on the E-Force reading a little more accurate, it won't be as effective overall as truly cooling the system below ambient as you have done.

Any dyno info that would be comparable?

Thanks Ed. I dyno'd about a month ago with stock plugs that the installer had closed the gap down to .032", when they should have left the plugs alone. AFTER this last dyno i put in 1 step colder NGK's at .039" and the car felt noticeably quicker. So keeping that in mind, the car put down 529 whp all 3 times on the old plugs, and the dyno runs were back-to-back with only about 30 seconds of easy drive time between the pulls. I mean literally, 529.** all 3 times. Talk about consistency! I'll try and get back and run it again with the new plugs, but it may be a while before I can get back there.

[TECHTURTLE]

Originally Posted by Joe's_cool_1le

Forgot to mention that the E-Force was used for the actual installation(when opening hitting the installation link above). Claiming 750 bucks for gobs of cold air.

Guessing you haven't replied because you are currently installing it. LOL

Thanks for the INFO and sorry for not hitting you back... I haven't been on in a while. I checked out the system and it looks like a great idea, I'll look into it.

Now for something crazy... Anyone else notice that IAT drops when going up hill??? All I can think is that I still have some air in the system. Any ideas?

[brettman]

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[Daves1SS]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

Thanks for the INFO and sorry for not hitting you back... I haven't been on in a while. I checked out the system and it looks like a great idea, I'll look into it.

Now for something crazy... Anyone else notice that IAT drops when going up hill??? All I can think is that I still have some air in the system. Any ideas?

When you go uphill, you're pressing the gas more and causing more air to flow over the IAT sensor and causes IAT's to drop.

[TECHTURTLE]

Well it's been 6 month since my install and I've had zero problems so far. I will say that my numbers are a little lower than I thought they would be but I'm happy. I'm at 555 Hp and 580 torque and that's after tuning for my Roto-Fab intake on 93 octane.

[cleoent]

Originally Posted by TECHTURTLE

Well it's been 6 month since my install and I've had zero problems so far. I will say that my numbers are a little lower than I thought they would be but I'm happy. I'm at 555 Hp and 580 torque and that's after tuning for my Roto-Fab intake on 93 octane.

Definitely low, but could just be the Dyno.

[1le32907]

What pulley are you using and what is your elevation

[TECHTURTLE]

Originally Posted by 1le32907

What pulley are you using and what is your elevation

I'm in Georgia so maybe around 1000 feet and I'm using the stock pulley that came on the supercharger.