12-24-2018, 02:19 PM | #29 |
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And Chevy is gonna steal Ford's thunder, lol!! With the C8 coming out, if it offers crazy performance (which it will) and can be had without markups (which it will) then this will be an alternative for people who refuse to pay markups on the GT500. I can see the standard C8 offering enough shattering performance to keep up with the GT500 while still having full options. And then we'll see another Z06 and ZR1 on top of that along with the 7th Gen Camaro. I predict a win for Chevy in the 7th Gen just like the 6th Gen!!
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GT500 will have it's day. Ford is pretty good at the numbers game. The car will be absolutely excellent for bragging rights which is what 90% of consumers in this particular market care about (IMO). You know, if you ask 1000 people: (Not based on any facts) 900 of them have heard of a Mustang and Camaro. 750 of them know what a "Shelby" GTxxx is. 50 (probably less) know what a ZL1 is, let alone a ZL1 1LE. Chevy is pretty stupid with their "monikers". Too many BS three letter codes nobody cares. Most people you talk to only know "Camaro" and won't hear anything beyond that whether it be RS, SS, RS 1LE, SS 1LE, ZL1, ZL1 1LE... wtf. My point is, most people buy the GT500 because they know what it is. I think thats a good thing. I prefer to have the car that you don't see every day.
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People know what a GTxxx is because of a chicken farmer’s success in making them perform on a road course for two years and 50 years worth of marketing.
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I agree, I don't think it's anything special about the Shelby other than it's story.
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I've never seen a test where the Hellcat did an 11 flat. Link?
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Motor Trend Head to Head: ZL1 vs Hellcat Widebody ZL1: 0-60: 3.5 seconds, 1/4 mile: 11.5 @ 124 mph Hellcat Widebody- 0-60: 3.9 seconds, 1/4 mile: 11.9 @ 125.1 mph. https://www.hellcat.org/threads/moto...debody.214907/
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I have seen them run slower times (auto to auto) than I was running when not lined up with me. But I never beat one. Maybe 10 times I lost even with a better RT. All good drivers though which is a big variable in the 1/4. IMO Chevy torque management holds the ZL1 back. The ZL1 has a better power to weight ratio, even when considering HCs are underrated.
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Tire is holding the Dodge back. Should a ZL1 with its torque management tuned out be considered stock?
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I think the new GT500 stock will also usually best the stock auto ZL1. Maybe even the GT500 manual.
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The hellcat is faster stock no question. Typical trap speed for a ZL1 is 124-126. Hellcats are usually 126-128. Ill take watching hundreds of runs over the last two years. Over one Motor trend article any day.
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