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Old 01-04-2018, 05:47 PM   #1205
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I get it they cheated. We will dismiss the 5 passes in the 11s they ran and only honor the 12:60s from C&D.
Never said that. We’ll see.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:22 PM   #1206
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I get it they cheated. We will dismiss the 5 passes in the 11s they ran and only honor the 12:60s from C&D.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:25 PM   #1207
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Of course they cheated! How else were they able to run times that none in here wants them to?

But seriously, it's funny that there have been far more low low 12 runs than mid 12's...yet some seem to be gripping on to the mid 12 narrative.
Where can I purchase some of these Ford blinders so I can put myself in the mind of a Ford fan?
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:33 PM   #1208
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Did you read the Hot Rod Camaro test article? Did you miss the part about Private Track Rental, 80 passes and Lutz at the wheel? Funny the GT was almost 4 tenths quicker and several mph faster in a Max stock ET effort by the same publication. Maybe Lutz can't drive?

See how easy it is to pick and choose the results you want to acknowledge.
Watch the video and listen at the 4 min mark and tell me there testing was the same as there mustang GT testing with Evans.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/2016-...ed-1500-miles/
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:27 PM   #1209
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Watch the video and listen at the 4 min mark and tell me there testing was the same as there mustang GT testing with Evans.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/2016-...ed-1500-miles/
Exactly. Newmoon is cherry picking to be a troll

Transcript from the video. Time mark 4:00
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Jeff Lutz: I’ll bet ya I put 50 laps on that car. Cars are stellar cars. To drive off the show room floor and do what we did all day here.

Woman: And we did it all day! Like we never stopped! We never let them cool off. It was very unscientific. This is not how you test cars.

Jeff Lutz: No. We hot lapped them. AC on, AC off. It didn’t matter.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66kcZYTncMg
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...While I spent most of my time working for Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords magazine, I've tested other brands of vehicles, too.

....The weather hovered just above sea level, front tire pressure was raised to 45 psi, rear TP was between 26-28 depending on what run I made. Engine temp was between 160 and 185. I provided video and reported my every move in a story published here:

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-t...18-mustang-gt/

I did in fact spend mostly all day testing the car in stock trim. Why? I tested launch rpm and the car required a minimum of 30 minutes of cool down for it to maintain peak performance.
The two SS Camaro's tested were given to Hot Rod as part of the "Finding New Roads" media event where they drew keys and then went on a 1500 mile road trip. They signed an agreement that they wouldn't race and later got it waved.

Camaro article written and 12.2 pass by Brandan Gillogly - Hot Rod magazine Feature Editor. That's right, Jeff Lutz didn't make the fastest pass

Mustang article written and 11.8 pass by Evan Smith - Freelance writer Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords magazine
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:55 PM   #1210
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You do realize that nearly every magazine article for the GT or Camaro was done using media prepped vehicles don't you? Take a look at any of them and notice the manufacture plates.

I can't believe some of you are eluding to this as an excuse still.
Hmmm...wasn't Evans run in MM&FF?

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How else were they able to run times that none in here wants them to?
You mean that none of us in here cares about and none of us in here are impressed by.
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But seriously, it's funny that there have been far more low low 12 runs than mid 12's...yet some seem to be gripping on to the mid 12 narrative.
It's even funnier that you're still looking for a car.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:19 PM   #1211
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Hmmm...wasn't Evans run in MM&FF?



You mean that none of us in here cares about and none of us in here are impressed by.


It's even funnier that you're still looking for a car.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-t...18-mustang-gt/

He's a freelance editor, so it looks like HotRod paid to have the story on their site too.
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:43 PM   #1212
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Camaro article written and 12.2 pass by Brandan Gillogly - Hot Rod magazine Feature Editor. That's right, Jeff Lutz didn't make the fastest pass.
So the "pro" didn't go fastest? Unpossible.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:46 AM   #1214
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So the "pro" didn't go fastest? Unpossible.
These two events are like comparing apples and oranges. Smith went to run better than 11.9, the fastest Camaro on this list. Lutz and crew were effing around and they say so in the video.

Smith hero run
Gillogly run has been bested by the majority of drivers that have run on a track.

Time will tell the story. Enjoy the moment.
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Old 01-05-2018, 07:47 AM   #1215
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Let's all stop feeding these 3 trolls, and let the owner results shut them out when people actually start racing their '18's.
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Let's all stop feeding these 3 trolls, and let the owner results shut them out when people actually start racing their '18's.
I'd like to see Newmoon comment regarding the differences in technique, etc on these two events.

I'd also like to see his prediction of what the average GT, A10, PP, Michelin PS, 3:55, Drag Race Mode car will run. It must be "deep" 11s given how he threw his weight behind the Smith pass
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I'd like to see Newmoon comment regarding the differences in technique, etc on these two events.

I'd also like to see his prediction of what the average GT, A10, PP, Michelin PS, 3:55, Drag Race Mode car will run. It must be "deep" 11s given how he threw his weight behind the Smith pass
LOL, good luck man. Pull up a comfy chair, you'll be waiting a while.
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