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Old 01-29-2019, 06:45 PM   #99
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As if it wasn't quick enough already...!

Just announced by Chevrolet:

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2019 CAMARO ZL1 1LE: FASTER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN EVER

10-speed automatic transmission will be available late February

2019-01-29

DETROIT — The 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE — the fastest, most track-capable Camaro ever — will offer an available 10-speed automatic transmission beginning late February.

During development, Chevy engineers pushed the limits of the automatic transmission to be more than one half second faster than the standard manual on General Motors’ 2.9-mile Milford Road Course. In fact, on longer tracks like the Nürburgring where you can take advantage of the lightning-quick shifts and all 10 gears, drivers can expect to shave off several seconds from their previous lap times with the six-speed manual ZL1 1LE.

“This transmission is optimized for speed,” said Camaro Chief Engineer Mark Dickens. “With unique Track Mode calibrations and 10 gears, you are always in the perfect gear when rolling on or off the throttle. You may not be a professional race car driver, but now you can shift like one.”

Not only does the 10-speed transmission save time at the track, it gives customers more performance options. The automatic provides standard paddle shifters for when they want a more engaging experience.

This new transmission comes with many changes that live up to the requirements of the 1LE performance package. Unique calibrations were made to the transmission, electronic limited slip differential and performance traction management system. The front and rear Multimatic DSSV® (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers have been tuned to accommodate the quicker shifts in weight transfer. New hardware includes a new transmission oil pan and an additional cooling duct for the steering gear.

“Adding an automatic transmission is another example of the Camaro portfolio delivering what customers want. This ultimate 1LE is another appealing option that is true to its racing heritage,” said Steve Majoros, director of Chevrolet passenger car and crossover marketing.

Additional ZL1 1LE features include:

Downforce-producing aero: Unique features include a carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia that produce grip-generating downforce to help the car stick harder and drive faster in turns.

Adjustable suspension: Racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV® dampers front and rear offer exceptional wheel and vehicle control. The front-end ride height is adjustable, along with the camber geometry. The rear stabilizer bar also offers three-way adjustability.

Wheels and tires: Specific lightweight forged aluminum wheels are an inch wider but an inch smaller in diameter, front and rear, than standard ZL1 wheels and are used with new summer-only Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires1 that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g.

Lighter weight: The lighter wheels and dampers, along with thinner rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, contribute to more than 50-pound lower curb weight than a standard ZL1 Coupe.

Supercharged performance and more: The power behind the ZL1 1LE is the 650-horsepower, supercharged LT4 engine. Brembo brakes are included, along with dual-zone automatic climate control, Bose premium audio system, heated and ventilated front seats and heated steering wheel.

The ZL1 1LE Track Performance Package has an MSRP of $7,500 and the available 10-speed automatic transmission an MSRP of $1,595.

I would bet Camaro decided to do something after the announcement of the new GT500 that comes with a DCT auto trans only. Ford does not even want to use there own developed 10 speed auto, they go to a better DCT and Camaro must of said Oh Oh, we gotta do something........... to stay competitive. Bravo and good to see Camaro doing something. Now just add the LT5 and kick some GT500 700 + horses ass.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:49 PM   #100
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I would bet Camaro decided to do something after the announcement of the new GT500 that comes with a DCT auto trans only. Ford does not even want to use there own developed 10 speed auto, they go to a better DCT and Camaro must of said Oh Oh, we gotta do something........... to stay competitive. Bravo and good to see Camaro doing something. Now just add the LT5 and kick some GT500 700 + horses ass.
I doubt it.

You can't go from ZERO to "ok, we are going to put the 10-speed in next month". This was not a direct result of the GT500, as the R&D started waaaay before then. The timing of the announcement however probably had everything to do with the release of the GT500 specs.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:50 PM   #101
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I would bet Camaro decided to do something after the announcement of the new GT500 that comes with a DCT auto trans only. Ford does not even want to use there own developed 10 speed auto, they go to a better DCT and Camaro must of said Oh Oh, we gotta do something........... to stay competitive. Bravo and good to see Camaro doing something. Now just add the LT5 and kick some GT500 700 + horses ass.
There’s no way GM just threw this together once the gt500 was announced. My guess they knew awhile back they were doing this and waited after the gt500 announcement to take a bite out of the hype and put it back on them. Especially since these will be ready in a month with all the changes done. They were ready for the gt500.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:58 PM   #102
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Well Im sure this will be the only car I ever own with a manual so I am perfectly fine with being 2 months early on my purchase. Plus this will probably be my only Camaro, as I am truly a Vette guy. Always raising the bar is what it is all about at the end of the day.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:01 PM   #103
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Does anyone else remember the interview with Al O. on the ZL1 1LE, where he was questioned why they didn't consider to put the A10 in the ZL1 1LE and drop the 'Ring times even more, to where he replied, after a bit of a pause, stating something like, "we didn't consider that..."
Exactly what I was thinking... Then again, Al is gone.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:12 PM   #104
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Just doing the math from the 2017 Camaro Playbook

Camaro ZL1
Manual Coupe 3,883
Auto Coupe 3,944
Difference 61 lbs

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Manual Coupe 3,823
Auto Coupe 3,884 ????
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:13 PM   #105
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This is exactly the way the A10 was rolled out for the 2017... M6 came in Oct an we had to wait until Jan-Feb 2018 for the A10.

Only difference was last time we knew the Auto was coming. This time they drop it on us and it starts next month.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:14 PM   #106
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Ohhh the 1LE purists came unglued at the seams last year when I mentioned the car would be something I would buy with the auto. I honestly think they were planning a road trip to beat me up. I’d have like 20 flat black vinyl hoods parked out front. They said it’s pure track and Chevy would NEVER put an auto in one. Now look...
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:18 PM   #107
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Ohhh the 1LE purists came unglued at the seams last year when I mentioned the car would be something I would buy with the auto. I honestly think they were planning a road trip to beat me up. I’d have like 20 flat black vinyl hoods parked out front. They said it’s pure track and Chevy would NEVER put an auto in one. Now look...
LOL... they say they are purists but really it's all about the man pedal for them.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:20 PM   #108
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After our 2016 8-speed Escalade ESV had a steady stream of problems, including crazy transmission issues they wouldn't fix...I swore off GM for life! We've had two Escalades and a Yukon XL Denali. All garbage and nothing GM could fix.

Fast forward to our new ZLE 6MT. Had to have it. Went against my word.

If our past GM AT problems are any indication, I'm plenty happy with my MT.

And of course I also needed to get a manual for the kids to learn on. Oldest has been driving for a couple of years now so it was time. Kids who can't drive manuals won't come from my household!
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:30 PM   #109
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Pfftt, they may as well rename it the Berlinetta now.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:52 PM   #110
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Didn't they break that tradition rules since ZL1 coming with 1LE trim and give ZR1 automatic available ?
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:01 PM   #111
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Can the regular ZL1 do it? If yes then we have the answer.
No for the hard core drivers...

Looks like the 1LE gets a deeper oil pan which I assume is for cooling to address that.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:08 PM   #112
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I doubt it.

You can't go from ZERO to "ok, we are going to put the 10-speed in next month". This was not a direct result of the GT500, as the R&D started waaaay before then. The timing of the announcement however probably had everything to do with the release of the GT500 specs.
This.

So, in implementing the A10, Chevy:
-Revised the transmission pan
-Added another cooler duct
-Revised the DSSV damping
-Recalibrated the PTM snd e-diff

Yup. All that can be changed and validated in a month.

Those changes would take at least 6 months, minimum.
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