[nicktechla]

Originally Posted by 2SS6th

Please tell me that isn’t stock?!

I followed you on IG btw

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My car is basically stock, just a rotofab which doesn't add much without a tune. His car is a stock Hellcat charger. He had a passenger also, I didn't. I think that car weighs about 600lbs more too.

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by nicktechla

My car is basically stock, just a rotofab which doesn't add much without a tune. His car is a stock Hellcat charger. He had a passenger also, I didn't. I think that car weighs about 600lbs more too.

I’m sure that rotofab made the whine much better!! And I’m surprised the hellcat still lost, despite the 57 more HP


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[nicktechla]

Originally Posted by 2SS6th

I’m sure that rotofab made the whine much better!! And I’m surprised the hellcat still lost, despite the 57 more HP


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Well
HellCat Charger is 4575lbs, thats like 0.154hp per pound
Camaro ZL1 Coupe Auto is 3944lbs, that's like 0.164 per pound right?

So a Camaro, with a better transmission, and less 1 passenger should win every time. I think

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

It's your money and your time, but given all that was said in this thread, I'd make sure to test drive a ZL1 first (leaving the trans in auto mode).

That reminds me, I think I’ll just hold up my phone to the windshield and HUD with my left hand and use my right hand to steer and upshift, I promise I won’t do anything crazy, just a few pulls from very low rolls; and one pull from a turn, no 80’s, 90’s, or any triple digits, I’ll also put the steering to track to keep it as tight as possible, and I won’t do anything stupid with people around me. I practice when no one is around, and if I catch up to a vehicle too quickly, I stop, I know I’m obviously not good enough yet.


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[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by nicktechla

Well

HellCat Charger is 4575lbs, thats like 0.154hp per pound

Camaro ZL1 Coupe Auto is 3944lbs, that's like 0.164 per pound right?



So a Camaro, with a better transmission, and less 1 passenger should win every time. I think

What if there wasn’t a passenger?


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[WhitesnakeSS]

This thread is just to good to not follow.

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by WhitesnakeSS

This thread is just to good to not follow.

I’m fine with being labeled the site’s “clown”
It’s a good one I’ll work my way up to a better label as I improve


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[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

It's your money and your time, but given all that was said in this thread, I'd make sure to test drive a ZL1 first (leaving the trans in auto mode).

Originally Posted by 2SS6th

No Chevy dealer would ever let me(a 21 year old male) test drive a 650HP vehicle, I’d love to see and feel what 650HP in an A10 trans is like compared to my 455 A8

Originally Posted by 2SS6th

I’m fine with being labeled the site’s “clown”
It’s a good one I’ll work my way up to a better label as I improve

You're no clown but a guy trying to learn I just want to help with my limited knowledge, because I think you may be exaggerating the difference in your mind. Trading the SS for a ZL1 will be a financial hit no matter what, so in your shoes I'd try to do my due diligence before embarking on the switch.

At the moment I have approximately ZL1 power (give or take 2-3%), and the difference on the drag strip between my car and a stock SS is what you see below (sorry, pic is a little dark, it's a rear dashcam snapshot).

However, it isn't like my SS was slow or clunky in stock form, the supercharger adds power, but it isn't that whole world of difference that you might be expecting. Honestly, I never had a problem with the A8 either, auto mode WOT shifts are crisp, downshifting in perf shift mode are also fine, the only difference I see is paddle reaction time, which sucks a bit, but you shouldn't even try to use manual mode anyway.

All this is to say your main problem at the moment is between the steering wheel and the seat, not under the hood, and this is why I suggested test driving a ZL1, but again, it's your time and money

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

You're no clown but a guy trying to learn I just want to help with my limited knowledge, because I think you may be exaggerating the difference in your mind. Trading the SS for a ZL1 will be a financial hit no matter what, so in your shoes I'd try to do my due diligence before embarking on the switch.

At the moment I have approximately ZL1 power (give or take 2-3%), and the difference on the drag strip between my car and a stock SS is what you see below (sorry, pic is a little dark, it's a rear dashcam snapshot).

However, it isn't like my SS was slow or clunky in stock form, the supercharger adds power, but it isn't that whole world of difference that you might be expecting. Honestly, I never had a problem with the A8 either, auto mode WOT shifts are crisp, downshifting in perf shift mode are also fine, the only difference I see is paddle reaction time, which sucks a bit, but you shouldn't even try to use manual mode anyway.

All this is to say your main problem at the moment is between the steering wheel and the seat, not under the hood, and this is why I suggested test driving a ZL1, but again, it's your time and money

As far I’ve seen and read, it looks like an A10 ZL1 would be the perfect car for me, regarding the instant response from the pedal, the whine, the raw power I’m looking for, and it makes you feel like you’re more in in control. The A8 auto mode doesn’t respond well because of the pedal response and it doesn’t do what you ask, that’s why I always put it in manual mode, I also don’t wanna deal with a clutch pedal, Incase people ask me why I didn’t get a manual haha it’s not my thing to be dealing with, especially in Florida traffic at times, to be honest, I truly think the (A10) ZL1 is the best performance car for the money right now.


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[enzia35]

So time to get a ZL1 then.

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by enzia35

So time to get a ZL1 then.

When I get my car paid in half, any extra money I have, I’ll throw it into the principal to save on interest, and reduce the time on the loan


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[WhitesnakeSS]

I have this strange feeling you not gonna "feel more in control" once you get the ZL1.
I have driven cars like the ZL1 and everything in between , faster or slower and if you can't figure out the SS you gonna struggle with more power and you will think you doing something wrong there as well when slower cars are still smoking you because you still won't have a clue.
NEVER EVER have I EVER heard of anyone driving a car with the power of the Camaro SS and feel they have to have the car in manual shift to feel as though they have power. It almost seems you are pulling off a nice troll stunt because what you say makes no sense.
Something is wrong alright and it ain't the car and I'm thinking it never will be the car.

[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by WhitesnakeSS

I have this strange feeling you not gonna "feel more in control" once you get the ZL1.
I have driven cars like the ZL1 and everything in between , faster or slower and if you can't figure out the SS you gonna struggle with more power and you will think you doing something wrong there as well when slower cars are still smoking you because you still won't have a clue.
NEVER EVER have I EVER heard of anyone driving a car with the power of the Camaro SS and feel they have to have the car in manual shift to feel as though they have power. It almost seems you are pulling off a nice troll stunt because what you say makes no sense.
Something is wrong alright and it ain't the car and I'm thinking it never will be the car.

I have stated this over and over again, it’s the throttle response/delay in regular drive mode, the car doesn’t immediately pull the instant I hit the gas, in manual mode it does,
The A8 in the SS doesn’t downshift quick enough to pull immediately as I randomly gun it, as in manual mode it does. The power is fine.... it’s the time it takes for the car to downshift in auto mode that makes me not feel in control. There is also a “dead zone” in the pedal when in auto mode I’ve noticed, how I’m assuming it’s either for gas, or that the car is just a torque monster and GM doesn’t want you to get hurt.


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[2SS6th]

Originally Posted by 2SS6th

I have stated this over and over again, it’s the throttle response/delay in regular drive mode, the car doesn’t immediately pull the instant I hit the gas, in manual mode it does,
The A8 in the SS doesn’t downshift quick enough to pull immediately as I randomly gun it, as in manual mode it does. The power is fine.... it’s the time it takes for the car to downshift in auto mode that makes me not feel in control. There is also a “dead zone” in the pedal when in auto mode I’ve noticed, how I’m assuming it’s either for gas, or that the car is just a torque monster and GM doesn’t want you to get hurt.


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