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Old 04-21-2018, 08:08 PM   #85
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I did no research into my purchase of my V6. I needed a car RIGHT THEN and my beautiful car was the cheapest car on the lot at $23,400. I bought it and have been in love with it since.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:15 PM   #86
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I have recently switched from a 2011 2SS to a 2017 2LT/RS. While the V8 is great got pure all out muscle, acceleration and speed, the V6 is more suited to my daily drive.

It's been said above, the V8 is a muscle car, the V6 is a sports car. And with the advances in technology in the 7.5 years since I ordered my 2011, to today's 2017 I drive, the new V6 is only about 0.5 of a sec slower to 60 than the LS3 V8... which in my book isn't too shabby.

Enjoying cheaper insurance and not having to use premium gas as well these days too.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:51 PM   #87
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Why couldn’t you drive your LS3 in the cold??
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Old 04-22-2018, 02:34 AM   #88
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We have had four Camaros over the span of the last three years. Here are my thoughts, for what it's worth.

1) Gen 3: 1991 Camaro RS 305 TBI Auto - Throttle response was poor, but the sound was amazing. The car was upgraded to headers and Flowmasters. The performance ended there. LOL.

2) Gen 5: Camaro 1LS V6 (LFX) Manual: I learned how to really "drive" in this car. The 6-speed, when "finessed" properly, would allow the LFX to pull off some pretty incredible exotic-sounding noises. The car handled great for being so heavy and was a lot of fun.

3) Gen 5: Camaro 2SS Manual (Hurst short throw, headers, SLP exhaust) - this was an ENTIRELY different experience from the two vehicles mentioned above. The car was ridiculously fast, but it felt "heavy" and more cumbersome to drive than the '13 LFX. I think someone mentioned "muscle car" vs. "sports car". The SS was definitely muscle and the LFX was definitely sport.

4) Gen 6: 1LT Convertible LGX Auto - brilliant car from every perspective. No, it's not a muscle car. It's definitely got the sports car vibe. I have the MRT v.2 exhaust and a K&N CAI. The sounds, when driven "properly" using the tap shift, are equally as amazing as what I experienced with my '13 LFX, but the car handles even better!

So, this being said, I have owned Camaros of all flavors. For a DD commuter I hands-down choose the LGX-equipped model. For bragging rights and pure unadulterated power, go for the V8. Personally, I drive my cars to work, drop my son off at school, go grocery shopping, etc - all of the normal things one does with a DD - and have no regrets about buying another V6 "muscle car'. To me, the Camaro bloodline is that of a "PONY car" - a small, lightweight, sporty-feeling practical ride, and the V6 Gen 6 embodies that spirit tremendously. Sure, the V8 guys will argue that the Camaro is a "MUSCLE car", however that was not the Camaro's original intent. It was meant to compete with the Mustang. 50 years later we are still debating the same things so from a marketing success perspective the pony/muscle wars live on. Long live the Camaro, in whatever flavor you choose!
I agree. Calling the Camaro a ‘muscle car’ would actually be offensive to the car because it’s so much more. The question I’d like to ask you is, if you don’t mind, what kind of character would you say the V6 has? Does it feel like a rough beast that wants to be revved up, or a super smooth engine that is civilized.
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Just my two cents, I have the V-6 (RS) gave up the 2SS , The SS had the old pushrod engine with all it's ticking and bucking, THe RS is the future twin overhead cam's, Has more HP than my 93 Corvette plus a better ride and I get over 30mpg to boot. Living in central Florida the roads are packed and the Yankees don't know where in the heck they're going so 70 mph is a good speed on the roads if they will just go and the SS just can't run that slow, It need open roads so you can open them up, Love my v-6!
What would you say the V6 feels like compared to the V8? A lot smoother? Does it rev faster?
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I have recently switched from a 2011 2SS to a 2017 2LT/RS. While the V8 is great got pure all out muscle, acceleration and speed, the V6 is more suited to my daily drive.

It's been said above, the V8 is a muscle car, the V6 is a sports car. And with the advances in technology in the 7.5 years since I ordered my 2011, to today's 2017 I drive, the new V6 is only about 0.5 of a sec slower to 60 than the LS3 V8... which in my book isn't too shabby.

Enjoying cheaper insurance and not having to use premium gas as well these days too.
Totally agree about the sports car. How do you feel about the V6? Does it feel like a performance engine or an economy engine?
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Old 04-22-2018, 02:55 AM   #89
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unless you drove the SS first you might think you were driving a small V8.at 323 horsepower it is nothing to sneeze at although it is down on torque compared to the V8.
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Old 04-22-2018, 05:00 AM   #90
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unless you drove the SS first you might think you were driving a small V8.at 323 horsepower it is nothing to sneeze at although it is down on torque compared to the V8.

They bumped it to 335 on the 6th Gen
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Old 04-22-2018, 06:06 AM   #91
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I agree. Calling the Camaro a ‘muscle car’ would actually be offensive to the car because it’s so much more. The question I’d like to ask you is, if you don’t mind, what kind of character would you say the V6 has? Does it feel like a rough beast that wants to be revved up, or a super smooth engine that is civilized.



What would you say the V6 feels like compared to the V8? A lot smoother? Does it rev faster?



Totally agree about the sports car. How do you feel about the V6? Does it feel like a performance engine or an economy engine?

"Does it feel like a rough beast that wants to be revved up, or a super smooth engine that is civilized. "

OP, why don't you go test drive all three instead of asking all these silly questions?? Or are you just trolling?




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Old 04-22-2018, 07:06 AM   #92
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"a rough beast that wants to be revved up, or a super smooth engine that is civilized."
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I'd say both, not really rough by any means. Amazing workhorse engine, in my opinion. A shade over just half the displacement of the V8, and very capable. Incredible for its size and weight.
There were -TWO- special shows on TV recently, highlighting the Camaro Gen 6, and the engine they chose to review was the V6. Was very informative in itself.
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I have an update to V8 economy that I obtained with mine yesterday. 300~ mile round trip, about 2/3rds highway, 1/3rd backroads and town driving.
Doing the fillup routine, and recording mileage, I got 27.74 MPG overall.
Indicated on the cluster group, was 22.4, average. (???)

Bears with Kodaks were all over the place, and one really checked my ass out for several minutes.
I tried to behave, but found the car loves it when hitting 80.
Did a couple blasts to get around roadie tick-turds.
Mileage was with premium. Surprisingly, it was identical to a trip with the V6, but poking around through town to restaurants and such the 8 couldn't do better, whereas the 6 got 37.
I wouldn't consider either to be bad at all. Least ways, for this kind of driving described here.

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Old 04-22-2018, 07:23 AM   #93
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unless you drove the SS first you might think you were driving a small V8.at 323 horsepower it is nothing to sneeze at although it is down on torque compared to the V8.



All day long I will agree that the V6 power is outstanding and loves to be revved. If you enjoy getting the engine up past 4500 on a regular basis then you will love this car. It won't have the torque of the V8 on the low end and it won't have that gorgeous rumble of the V8 but the sound of the V6 at the higher revs is very sporty and exotic. I think it all comes down to personal preference and what you plan to do with the car.
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Old 04-22-2018, 07:47 AM   #94
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OP, why don't you go test drive all three instead of asking all these silly questions?? Or are you just trolling?
I don't believe that he's trolling, but this is actually the best suggestion. No one can pick the correct car for YOU. It's an entirely subjective thing.

I'm not who you want to talk to here, though, I can't imagine buying my first Camaro without a V8 up front, and I consider the SS to be very much a sports car. In fairness, I haven't driven the turbo 4 or the V6...I knew what I wanted, up front.
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Old 04-22-2018, 08:06 AM   #95
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I bought the V6 last year, and was tickled with the performance---Until a test drive in the SS !!!!
I'm going to lay odds that 'autocross' will buy a 1LT in the end, to fulfill his AX intent, and still make a nifty DD.
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:29 AM   #96
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What you said really interests me. You said the 4 and 6 are kind of loose compared to the V8. Do you believe this is because the V8 gives it more heft? That would explain the more planted feel. Would you go to the extent of saying the lesser powered models are more playful while the V8 is more of a speed machine?
I read his comments as describing the 6's and sixxers driving with a "lighter touch", and the heavier (and slightly more front-heavy) 8's being more deliberate in their moves. At least theoretically, you should be able extract a tiny bit more cornering and braking performance from any given set of wheels & tires with the lighter car.

If you ever did go forced induction on the 6, you'd lose some of its lighter feel in the corners. Most of that added weight would be located up high, up front.

One thing about a turbo-4 is that it's an NA-4 whenever you get caught off-boost in normal daily driving. Feels like an even smaller-displacement NA-4 until the turbo adds at least enough power to compensate for its additional exhaust system backpressure. You must keep the revs up where boost is at least starting to come on line any time you even think you're going to want or need good response. And there will be some lag, maybe not much, but you may still find yourself having to lead the throttle down anticipating when the boost is going to kick in. With NA, response is tied more closely to what your right foot is doing. Just so you know, my wife's car is a turbo-4, and it doesn't have nearly as much response down under about 2000 rpm as a 2.5L NA car we owned previously, and I find I have to start getting into the throttle at least 75' sooner in that car around one of the sweepers near where I live than I do in either my GT or in the Maxima. It hates being in 3rd gear going around neighborhood 90° intersections, particularly the tighter right turns. It really is that much different.


Even at considerably higher speeds on a road course, you can have a lot of fun with only a little over 300 HP on tap. You'd just drive it more like a 'momentum car' than as a big-power 'point-and-shoot'.


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Old 04-22-2018, 09:48 AM   #97
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This is my 2016...One of the first cars built. I ordered it in September 2015 and it was built October 2015. Arrived at my dealer December 2015.. Man, what a wait that was! I got all options EXCEPT for dual mode exhaust! Stock exhaust isn't bad. V6 or V8? Yeah, would have loved to get the 2SS..For another $12,000...Could not afford that...
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:51 AM   #98
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This is my 2016...One of the first cars built. I ordered it in September 2015 and it was built October 2015. Arrived at my dealer December 2015.. Man, what a wait that was! I got all options EXCEPT for dual mode exhaust! Stock exhaust isn't bad. V6 or V8? Yeah, would have loved to get the 2SS..For another $12,000...Could not afford that...
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