[IMadeYouReadThis]

The bottom line is the fact that the 6th gen V6 is just so good. It handles better then the SS. It sounds better then the 4 banger. Hell I have the NPP and it sounds exotic.

Just do yourself a favor and get a manual.

[autocross]

Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

The bottom line is the fact that the 6th gen V6 is just so good. It handles better then the SS. It sounds better then the 4 banger. Hell I have the NPP and it sounds exotic.

Just do yourself a favor and get a manual.

How loud is the NPP in loud mode? Is it like WOAH or a little more tame?

[bpang1234]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

They drive entirely different. The I4 and V6 are loose and easy to swing around, super forgiving and just love having their limits pushed. The SS is a monster for a stock car. It drives heavy, confident, and tame but at the same time if you awaken the beast and you don't know how to keep her tame she will leave you in a bad situation in a hurry. It handles excellent, but you still basically..don't want to get too overconfident with the massive amount of torque it has that just simply isnt present or encountered in the I4 / V6.

The V6/I4 1LE use the same stock suspension parts as a BASE SS (not a 1LE SS which is an upgrade on top of that.) so the only real advantage is weight.. so yes it will out handle it..but not easily... and the excess power in the SS will easily make up for the minor gap it loses in handling.

I agree with this statement. The SS handles great right out of the box. I have had no trouble rotating it other than this last March at a wet autocross day when I forgot to turn off the nannies for my first run.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by autocross

How loud is the NPP in loud mode? Is it like WOAH or a little more tame?

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...47bYSy6zv6SCdC

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by beflat10r

It can also be driven when it's cold outside, unlike the 2SS.

Why couldn’t you drive your LS3 in the cold??

[mdhopt36]

Listen to #74 post's link...a V6 sound in spades! (wish they had an inset showing the speedo)
To answer, my V6 had all-season run-flats, and they were LOUD. Especially on older pavement. A mile up the highway, they repaved a 6- mile section, and the quietness in that car was very apparent once I hit it. Questioning some dudes on this site told me if I went to the non run-flats, they would be distinctly quieter.
The SS has run-flats, (summer only) but are definitely quieter. Dealer tells me they are about the best tire for the intended purpose; I'll take his word for it. They stick like glue as long as it's relatively warm.
As to price vs 6 or 8, around here everyone wants the 8, and they don't discount them. I snagged mine with a few options off base price for $37.8k (not including all the crap taxes/fees)- pretty decent.
The V6, I got with 140~ miles on it, and oil life down in the 40%-ish area, because it set so long on the lot. I practically stole it for mfr's invoice almost $26k with some options. They wanted to sell it---bad.
*******
To me, it just shows where the typical sympathy lies---dudes want the V8.
So far, my experience (limited) shows going to the 8 with similar options are going to cost $10-11 grand. That money is only going to chop 1 second off the 1/4 mile, and not be nearly as economical.
I miss the quick handling of the V6, and it's plenty strong enough. But for the straightline stuff in the above link, which is more my style, the V8 will give a lot out there on the road a real pounding.
See if I can load a pic of my 6-banger last year at the lake, when I got 37+mpg farting around

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by mdhopt36

Listen to #74 post's link...a V6 sound in spades! (wish they had an inset showing the speedo)
To answer, my V6 had all-season run-flats, and they were LOUD. Especially on older pavement. A mile up the highway, they repaved a 6- mile section, and the quietness in that car was very apparent once I hit it. Questioning some dudes on this site told me if I went to the non run-flats, they would be distinctly quieter.
The SS has run-flats, (summer only) but are definitely quieter. Dealer tells me they are about the best tire for the intended purpose; I'll take his word for it. They stick like glue as long as it's relatively warm.
As to price vs 6 or 8, around here everyone wants the 8, and they don't discount them. I snagged mine with a few options off base price for $37.8k (not including all the crap taxes/fees)- pretty decent.
The V6, I got with 140~ miles on it, and oil life down in the 40%-ish area, because it set so long on the lot. I practically stole it for mfr's invoice almost $26k with some options. They wanted to sell it---bad.
*******
To me, it just shows where the typical sympathy lies---dudes want the V8.
So far, my experience (limited) shows going to the 8 with similar options are going to cost $10-11 grand. That money is only going to chop 1 second off the 1/4 mile, and not be nearly as economical.
I miss the quick handling of the V6, and it's plenty strong enough. But for the straightline stuff in the above link, which is more my style, the V8 will give a lot out there on the road a real pounding.
See if I can load a pic of my 6-banger last year at the lake, when I got 37+mpg farting around

Yeah. The V6 and V8's are just entirely different. Admittedly I also miss my 30+ MPG but I love my 2SS.. eventually I will buy a used V6 as a beater .. maybe I will be lucky enough to find a 50th anniversary car.. but I'm still happy with my 2SS even paying more in fuel. It's just a world of difference and drives like a real muscle car where the V6 drives like a sports car.

[iarepeyton]

The video IMadeYouReadThis linked is with the NPP exhaust in sport mode. Compare that with my video, bone stock everything and regular exhaust, and you have your answer on the differences between them. I'm not sure that NPP makes it louder necessarily, but it sounds better. Also, you asked if my tires spin easily, and thats a definite yes if I'm turning from a stop. They will also spin a little in a straight line from a stop with traction control on, and you can certainly get it sideways, but thats because it hits the peak torque really low and then never builds on it. I drove my roommate's modified G8 last night and these SS guys are not kidding when they say the V8 is a different monster lol. As for a tight autocross, the V6 1LE is going to be very close to a bare bones SS. You're seriously not going to make the wrong decision either way.

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

Why couldn’t you drive your LS3 in the cold??

SS and RS come with tires that dont perform well in the cold and are suseptible to cracking at temps below freezing.nothing wrong with any of the camaro engines in the cold,but im not sure why GM wouldnt go with all season tires at least on cars delivered up north.

[autocross]

Originally Posted by mdhopt36

Listen to #74 post's link...a V6 sound in spades! (wish they had an inset showing the speedo)
To answer, my V6 had all-season run-flats, and they were LOUD. Especially on older pavement. A mile up the highway, they repaved a 6- mile section, and the quietness in that car was very apparent once I hit it. Questioning some dudes on this site told me if I went to the non run-flats, they would be distinctly quieter.
The SS has run-flats, (summer only) but are definitely quieter. Dealer tells me they are about the best tire for the intended purpose; I'll take his word for it. They stick like glue as long as it's relatively warm.
As to price vs 6 or 8, around here everyone wants the 8, and they don't discount them. I snagged mine with a few options off base price for $37.8k (not including all the crap taxes/fees)- pretty decent.
The V6, I got with 140~ miles on it, and oil life down in the 40%-ish area, because it set so long on the lot. I practically stole it for mfr's invoice almost $26k with some options. They wanted to sell it---bad.
*******
To me, it just shows where the typical sympathy lies---dudes want the V8.
So far, my experience (limited) shows going to the 8 with similar options are going to cost $10-11 grand. That money is only going to chop 1 second off the 1/4 mile, and not be nearly as economical.
I miss the quick handling of the V6, and it's plenty strong enough. But for the straightline stuff in the above link, which is more my style, the V8 will give a lot out there on the road a real pounding.
See if I can load a pic of my 6-banger last year at the lake, when I got 37+mpg farting around

Yeah, my driving is more winding road style. And damn, that V6 sounds GOOD! If i got that, my 370Z friends would be really upset. I’d sound better than them, be faster than them, and outhandle them with proper tires! I heard the 4 banger is gutless under 3K RPM

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Yeah. The V6 and V8's are just entirely different. Admittedly I also miss my 30+ MPG but I love my 2SS.. eventually I will buy a used V6 as a beater .. maybe I will be lucky enough to find a 50th anniversary car.. but I'm still happy with my 2SS even paying more in fuel. It's just a world of difference and drives like a real muscle car where the V6 drives like a sports car.

I agree the V6 is an entirely different car. It’s unfortunate that everyone associates a camaro with muscle because they’d LOVE this if it was a different name/body style

Originally Posted by iarepeyton

The video IMadeYouReadThis linked is with the NPP exhaust in sport mode. Compare that with my video, bone stock everything and regular exhaust, and you have your answer on the differences between them. I'm not sure that NPP makes it louder necessarily, but it sounds better. Also, you asked if my tires spin easily, and thats a definite yes if I'm turning from a stop. They will also spin a little in a straight line from a stop with traction control on, and you can certainly get it sideways, but thats because it hits the peak torque really low and then never builds on it. I drove my roommate's modified G8 last night and these SS guys are not kidding when they say the V8 is a different monster lol. As for a tight autocross, the V6 1LE is going to be very close to a bare bones SS. You're seriously not going to make the wrong decision either way.

Couldn’t it be better than a bare bones SS? That’s a lot of weight to chug around? Also, what happens when you turn traction control off? Do the tires really spin? I just ask because you said with T/C ON

Originally Posted by redcoats1976

SS and RS come with tires that dont perform well in the cold and are suseptible to cracking at temps below freezing.nothing wrong with any of the camaro engines in the cold,but im not sure why GM wouldnt go with all season tires at least on cars delivered up north.

Is agree it comes with crappy tires

[CruzinQueen]

We have had four Camaros over the span of the last three years. Here are my thoughts, for what it's worth.

1) Gen 3: 1991 Camaro RS 305 TBI Auto - Throttle response was poor, but the sound was amazing. The car was upgraded to headers and Flowmasters. The performance ended there. LOL.

2) Gen 5: Camaro 1LS V6 (LFX) Manual: I learned how to really "drive" in this car. The 6-speed, when "finessed" properly, would allow the LFX to pull off some pretty incredible exotic-sounding noises. The car handled great for being so heavy and was a lot of fun.

3) Gen 5: Camaro 2SS Manual (Hurst short throw, headers, SLP exhaust) - this was an ENTIRELY different experience from the two vehicles mentioned above. The car was ridiculously fast, but it felt "heavy" and more cumbersome to drive than the '13 LFX. I think someone mentioned "muscle car" vs. "sports car". The SS was definitely muscle and the LFX was definitely sport.

4) Gen 6: 1LT Convertible LGX Auto - brilliant car from every perspective. No, it's not a muscle car. It's definitely got the sports car vibe. I have the MRT v.2 exhaust and a K&N CAI. The sounds, when driven "properly" using the tap shift, are equally as amazing as what I experienced with my '13 LFX, but the car handles even better!

So, this being said, I have owned Camaros of all flavors. For a DD commuter I hands-down choose the LGX-equipped model. For bragging rights and pure unadulterated power, go for the V8. Personally, I drive my cars to work, drop my son off at school, go grocery shopping, etc - all of the normal things one does with a DD - and have no regrets about buying another V6 "muscle car'. To me, the Camaro bloodline is that of a "PONY car" - a small, lightweight, sporty-feeling practical ride, and the V6 Gen 6 embodies that spirit tremendously. Sure, the V8 guys will argue that the Camaro is a "MUSCLE car", however that was not the Camaro's original intent. It was meant to compete with the Mustang. 50 years later we are still debating the same things so from a marketing success perspective the pony/muscle wars live on. Long live the Camaro, in whatever flavor you choose!

[rotohead]

Just my two cents, I have the V-6 (RS) gave up the 2SS , The SS had the old pushrod engine with all it's ticking and bucking, THe RS is the future twin overhead cam's, Has more HP than my 93 Corvette plus a better ride and I get over 30mpg to boot. Living in central Florida the roads are packed and the Yankees don't know where in the heck they're going so 70 mph is a good speed on the roads if they will just go and the SS just can't run that slow, It need open roads so you can open them up, Love my v-6!

[protovack]

I have an SS but I don't consider myself a "V8 guy". I would have been just as happy with a V6. The love for the V6 is everywhere. Virtually every person who has a V6 loves it and has lots of fun. I think the reason you don't see as much discussion about it on the forums is because V6 owners are out driving more. Whereas the I4 and V8 get more garage time either just sitting in the winter or being worked on.

[SnakeEyeSS]

I have an SS, I would have no problem getting a V6 for a daily. To each their own, but I am a V8 guy(have had 7 now, and I started driving 16 years ago), but you don't always need a V8. Although I DO think it fulfills the Camaro heritage, it isn't necessary. If most of your racing will be an autocross course, V8 won't even do much for you since the Miata guys are the ones running a ton of them anyway.