Added e and exceeded my hp goal - Page 6

JANNETTYRACING · 10-10-2021, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JSH

So you're saying you make 725 wheel on pump gas and a tune and no other mods?! Must be something of a world record!

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JSH · 10-10-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaro1973

This is JSH we’re talking about here. Lately he’s huffing down some really good paint fumes, or that weed in Colorado has got some other good shit in it..

😂

Actually, my dizziness was likely from inhaling my wife's noxious furniture stain fumes yesterday, but I'm guessing it's not as enjoyable as the Valium you're taking?!

But we here are so glad you are.

JSH · 10-10-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

Is this stuff really that hard to figure out? Lol

There's hope. If a car guy can figure it out anyone can!

XXX ZL1 · 10-10-2021, 07:34 PM

I target .82-.83 and I want the stuff to live after tuning. Leaner mixture becomes harder on allowing proper timing which makes more power than getting risky with fueling. Have local stock blower car making 938/909 on e55-60 and meth and it’s healthy at every checkup.

IneedAZ · 10-13-2021, 08:47 AM

Little update...drove the car to work this morning and made a hit. I am at e32 at the moment. Depending where in the run you look, the Lambda was between .82 and .86. I am targeting .85. My fuel pressure on both low and high side was fine through the test. Inj pw varied as well through the run of 5.9 to 6.2. Considering my original tune on 93 after the install last year i was running .8 Lambda and 6.1-6.2 pw, i consider it an improvement. You can definitely tell when the richer mixture is kicking in looking out the rear window. Another plus, i have my KR very close to stock now which is way lower than by 2 tuners had them and no KR is showing up on my passes or norm driving.

*radz28* · 10-13-2021, 09:02 AM

Excellent news. I've read he's been on the forefront of Gen V stuff since the beginning.

IneedAZ · 10-13-2021, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by radz28

Excellent news. I've read he's been on the forefront of Gen V stuff since the beginning.

yeah, but im a little out of my comfort zone as lean as he had me, so i am dialing it back on my own as well as rolling the KR sensors back. I will accept a .85avg on e30. I am not getting any knock or false knock, so i dont know why tuners raise the numbers arbitrary ...i see a lot of tuners do that.

I also posted a question on the Goat Garage FB site to see if anyone knows why my 2 WB readings differ from Channels to Chart vs time logging. I understand the 2 wb reading a little different from left bank to right bank, but for example my AEM canbus wb might show .85 Lambda in Channels and .83 in the chart vs time section. Sometimes it is .1 off and sometimes .4 off. Most of the time they match, but there are times during a pass they can be that far different.

Interesting side note...Fore Innovations is across the street from his shop. I was looking them up the other day and the address sounded familiar to me..now i know why.

KingLT1 · 10-13-2021, 10:37 AM

What gear did you make the pull? Imo the fueling shouldn't change that much in a higher gear. Imo you want to be an at least 5th gear on a A10. If you make a pull in a lower gear it will bounce around more.

For example here is my brother's C7Z M7. Second gear the EQ error is bouncing around due to load and tire spin. 3rd gear look at the EQ error is less then 1% through the gear.

IneedAZ · 10-13-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

What gear did you make the pull? Imo the fueling shouldn't change that much in a higher gear. Imo you want to be an at least 5th gear on a A10. If you make a pull in a lower gear it will bounce around more.

unfortunately traction has been the issue...i nail it 40+mph and it starts skating and back out to recover then hit it again and it seems i can push it down the road. I will have to double check what the actual gear is.

On that pass, his Fueling looks a little low. Did you say he has a DSX low aux pump too?

KingLT1 · 10-13-2021, 10:53 AM

I would down shift in manual mode, hold 5th gear, and make a pull just through that gear. That is how I tune fueling. I was making 3rd gear pulls from 40 in the C7Z M7 to dial in the MAF so there is no wheel spin. The log I posted above was an example of why you can't tune off of lower gears...it was a final pull not used to tune.

IneedAZ · 10-13-2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

I would down shift in manual mode, hold 5th gear, and make a pull just through that gear. That is how I tune fueling. I was making 3rd gear pulls from 40 in the C7Z M7 to dial in the MAF so there is no wheel spin. The log I posted above was an example of why you can't tune off of lower gears...it was a final pull not used to tune.

gotcha!! good idea...i will try it with paddle shifters...Last 2 times i put it in PTM Race mode, but i manually have the Suspension in Touring. Reason i put it in PTM is i have the Chevy Perf elsd update and was hoping it would help with wheel spin and keeping it even left to right.

IneedAZ · 10-13-2021, 02:17 PM

so, after work i gave it a shot by starting in 5th using the paddle shifters shift up thru 7th gear. Definitely better control. Still couldnt do a full test hit cause traffic. Even though its an out of the way road, i dont want to do it with cars around. Anyhow..I have it pretty close to the .85 i am shooting for and my pw was 5.7-5.9 on the e32. I will drive it again tomorrow and see if i can get just 1 decent pass.

KingLT1 · 10-13-2021, 10:43 PM

No need to upshift. Just do a pull in 5th or whatever gear that you are comfortable with at speed. You are basically simulating a Dyno pull on the street but it's hard to do that in 6th or 7th gear because you will be doing 140+. 5th should suffice for data logging even though on a Dyno it would likely read 30-40whp lower then 7th gear 1:1.

IneedAZ · 10-14-2021, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

No need to upshift. Just do a pull in 5th or whatever gear that you are comfortable with at speed. You are basically simulating a Dyno pull on the street but it's hard to do that in 6th or 7th gear because you will be doing 140+. 5th should suffice for data logging even though on a Dyno it would likely read 30-40whp lower then 7th gear 1:1.

Curious if you know what your flex fuel multi is set to in the 4 boxes?

10-10-2021, 07:34 PM	#74
XXX ZL1 Drives: 2024 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Pace FL Posts: 449	I target .82-.83 and I want the stuff to live after tuning. Leaner mixture becomes harder on allowing proper timing which makes more power than getting risky with fueling. Have local stock blower car making 938/909 on e55-60 and meth and it’s healthy at every checkup. __________________ 2024 Riverside Blue ZL1 M6 Magnuson 2650R, NW 103, Roto Fab Big Gulp Kooks 2 inch LT's, Stainless Works Legend NPP THP Billet Valve Covers, Mighty Mouse Wild CC Signature Forged 20x10.5/20x11.5, BMR springs, BMR Cradle lockout, AAD Billet arms 2023 Vivid Orange ZL1 M6 - sold 2019 Riverside Blue ZL1 A10 - sold

10-13-2021, 08:47 AM	#75
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	Little update...drove the car to work this morning and made a hit. I am at e32 at the moment. Depending where in the run you look, the Lambda was between .82 and .86. I am targeting .85. My fuel pressure on both low and high side was fine through the test. Inj pw varied as well through the run of 5.9 to 6.2. Considering my original tune on 93 after the install last year i was running .8 Lambda and 6.1-6.2 pw, i consider it an improvement. You can definitely tell when the richer mixture is kicking in looking out the rear window. Another plus, i have my KR very close to stock now which is way lower than by 2 tuners had them and no KR is showing up on my passes or norm driving. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

10-13-2021, 09:02 AM	#76
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,855 View My Garage	Excellent news. I've read he's been on the forefront of Gen V stuff since the beginning. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

10-13-2021, 10:37 AM	#78
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 7,665	What gear did you make the pull? Imo the fueling shouldn't change that much in a higher gear. Imo you want to be an at least 5th gear on a A10. If you make a pull in a lower gear it will bounce around more. For example here is my brother's C7Z M7. Second gear the EQ error is bouncing around due to load and tire spin. 3rd gear look at the EQ error is less then 1% through the gear. Attached Images __________________ 2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel Last edited by KingLT1; 10-13-2021 at 10:48 AM.

10-13-2021, 10:53 AM	#80
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 7,665	I would down shift in manual mode, hold 5th gear, and make a pull just through that gear. That is how I tune fueling. I was making 3rd gear pulls from 40 in the C7Z M7 to dial in the MAF so there is no wheel spin. The log I posted above was an example of why you can't tune off of lower gears...it was a final pull not used to tune. __________________ 2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel

10-13-2021, 02:17 PM	#82
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,111 View My Garage	so, after work i gave it a shot by starting in 5th using the paddle shifters shift up thru 7th gear. Definitely better control. Still couldnt do a full test hit cause traffic. Even though its an out of the way road, i dont want to do it with cars around. Anyhow..I have it pretty close to the .85 i am shooting for and my pw was 5.7-5.9 on the e32. I will drive it again tomorrow and see if i can get just 1 decent pass. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

10-13-2021, 10:43 PM	#83
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 7,665	No need to upshift. Just do a pull in 5th or whatever gear that you are comfortable with at speed. You are basically simulating a Dyno pull on the street but it's hard to do that in 6th or 7th gear because you will be doing 140+. 5th should suffice for data logging even though on a Dyno it would likely read 30-40whp lower then 7th gear 1:1. __________________ 2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel

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