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Old 11-15-2017, 09:04 AM   #71
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Dodge sucks! Very well proven.

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They all suck. I came back to this forum after months away trying to find answers for my father in law with a 2017 SS camaro because his rearend is humming. Read the boards and you'll find that to be a common occurrence. 5000 miles and his has already been back four times not including todays trip.

I would rather have a car that sucks with 840HP or 707HP than one that sucks with

650HP. Im now reading that the A10s cant run more than four laps without overheating. Pretty bad for a "track" car.

See how this works. One troll feeds another. Dumb to keep doing this. These cars all suck and they are all great in their own way. I would be proud to own any of them.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:22 AM   #72
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They all suck. I came back to this forum after months away trying to find answers for my father in law with a 2017 SS camaro because his rearend is humming. Read the boards and you'll find that to be a common occurrence. 5000 miles and his has already been back four times not including todays trip.

I would rather have a car that sucks with 840HP or 707HP than one that sucks with

650HP. Im now reading that the A10s cant run more than four laps without overheating. Pretty bad for a "track" car.

See how this works. One troll feeds another. Dumb to keep doing this. These cars all suck and they are all great in their own way. I would be proud to own any of them.
Individual stories are great but actual data shows Dodge sucks.

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Old 11-15-2017, 09:34 AM   #73
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650HP. Im now reading that the A10s cant run more than four laps without overheating. Pretty bad for a "track" car. .
My A10 has run solid 20m at a time with 0 issues..

There's like 1 or 2 with actual issues that are being worked on by a dealer. Several that were just overfilled transmissions, which doesn't count as you can do the same to an engine with oil and causes issues.

Plenty of us have tracked our A10s w/o a single issue. There is not a model wide problem on the ZL1 A10 like there was/is on the C7 Z06 A8s.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:46 AM   #74
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My A10 has run solid 20m at a time with 0 issues..

There's like 1 or 2 with actual issues that are being worked on by a dealer. Several that were just overfilled transmissions, which doesn't count as you can do the same to an engine with oil and causes issues.

Plenty of us have tracked our A10s w/o a single issue. There is not a model wide problem on the ZL1 A10 like there was/is on the C7 Z06 A8s.
Im glad to hear that. It's a great car. I love them. Just read a few threads this morning on the topic.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:50 AM   #75
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Im glad to hear that. It's a great car. I love them. Just read a few threads this morning on the topic.
There are a couple here that are simply good enough drivers that they can push the car to the OEM limits and find weak spots. Which I'm sure is annoying for them, but that's just a nod to their ability to drive the car.

For the vast majority of A10 cars being tracked, they're just fine. The issue with A8 Z06 were shown time and time again on multiple tracks with people that weren't close to their levels of driving. That's an actual problem and it's clear GM knew based on the cooling revisions in the 17 and up Z06s and now the massive frontal area on the 19 ZR1.

There's always going to be someone that will take issue with autos on a track and turn a couple of issues on a couple cars in to an overblown argument. For those, I just put them on ignore so I don't have to read their obnoxious drivel.

But, the A10, for the vast majority of people tracking the car is just fine. I tracked my A8 2016 SS and my A6 2012 Grand Sport on the same track I've had my A10 ZL1 on, and you can tell the design changes and upgrades in each revision in auto mode on how it handles shifting under load, down shifting coming down from mid triple digits and whether or not it tries to shift when you're going through a corner. There's a few things I'd have it do differently, but the car is fine as is for the most that will track it.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:52 AM   #76
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Somebody's triggered lol
Anyways so the demon is pretty cool, and so is the zl1....
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:55 AM   #77
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Somebody's triggered lol
Anyways so the demon is pretty cool, and so is the zl1....
Thanks for bringing that up, I am starting a business for Dodge owners. I am going to set these up at car events and paint them yellow in honor of Dodge.

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:04 AM   #78
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Thanks for bringing that up, I am starting a business for Dodge owners. I am going to set these up at car events and paint them yellow in honor of Dodge.

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You have been the only one Ive seen in this entire thread that looks like they need that safe place. You are the typical "I dont own one, so it sucks" type mentality. Glad Im not so narrow minded. It sure would have been a boring life.

That Demon has really gotten under your skin and it shows. That's pretty funny.
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You have been the only one Ive seen in this entire thread that looks like they need that safe place. You are the typical "I dont own one, so it sucks" type mentality. Glad Im not so narrow minded. It sure would have been a boring life.

That Demon has really gotten under your skin and it shows. That's pretty funny.
I respect the performance, but Dodges reliability sucks. Would never own one. I have owned many brands, right now Chevy rules, get with the program Junior.

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:45 AM   #80
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I respect the performance, but Dodges reliability sucks. Would never own one. I have owned many brands, right now Chevy rules, get with the program Junior.

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:49 AM   #81
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Thanks for bringing that up, I am starting a business for Dodge owners. I am going to set these up at car events and paint them yellow in honor of Dodge.

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I'm guessing since you bring it up all the time you were in the military? Good for you, anways I'll try to get this back on topic once again, yes the demon is a one trick pony....but that's one hell of a trick.
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:10 PM   #82
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I'm guessing since you bring it up all the time you were in the military? Good for you, anways I'll try to get this back on topic once again, yes the demon is a one trick pony....but that's one hell of a trick.
It's like I went to the Grand Canyon last month and people ask how it was and I say, "Well, there's only one thing to see."
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:39 PM   #83
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Fun thread to read. Lmao
I see alot of envy in the hearts of some. Being a drag race enthusiast, I am impressed as hell with the present day offerings of Chevy and Dodge. Both build a very good power train and each have their issues which get sorted out as times moves forward.
The engineering which has gone into this Demon is phenominal. A few of you call it a one trick pony which indicates to me that you must not care for drag racing. That is ok by me. I'll give all the credit in the world to Dodge for building this car. It's no lightweight Copo for sure but it is one powerful and quick car that a guy with the money can buy from the dealer. What's not to like about that?
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Calling it a one-trick pony isn't necessarily a dig on the car. That's what it's built for and intended for.

I used to do drag racing more often and just stopped caring so much about it due to local 1/4 drama from various groups. Plus, with cars like Tesla showing up, you've got to put WAY more in to a car if you're just going for who has the quickest ET... No one I know around here cares if you're bracket or not and how consistently you can hit your range or number w/o breaking out.
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